What player´s stroke is the SAFEST?

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  1. unjugon

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    Which is that shot that everytime you see it being hit you think "damn, that ball is going in for sure"? Which are not the best, but the safest stroke/s?

    For me, the Hewitt backhand is the safest stroke. The way he hits it...it just seems so damn hard to see how he can hit it out.

    Nadal´s forehand would probably come second for me.
     
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  2. Chang

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    Most clay courters have pretty safe shots. Gaudio can be a bit off. Coria is a bit off these days too.
     
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  3. travlerajm

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    The Rios forehand.
     
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  4. Happy_Man

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    i think any of my strokes. It's really pretty safe.. safely into the net or out :D
     
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  5. superman1

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    Federer's backhand slice, Nadal's forehand and backhand, Hewitt's backhand.
     
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  6. Chang

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    Good on ya.
     
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  7. thejackal

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    Any of Nadal's shots
     
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  8. quest01

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    Id have to say Nadal because he hits with so much topspin. He hits with a low margin for error because of the amount of topspin he utilizes on his forehand, backhand, and even serve.
     
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  9. Max G.

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    Nadal's forehand when on a medium to slow surface. On a fast surface, he might shank it if it's too low.

    But the again, there really aren't any players with ultra-safe shots on something slick and fast, except for slices.
     
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  10. supersmash

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    Sampras' serve?
     
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  11. ShcMad

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    Gaudio's backhand.
     
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  12. Bottle Rocket

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    How about Roddick's overheads?
     
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  13. bluescreen

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    i'd say nadal's, but w/ hesitance. he can shank it sometimes, especially on faster courts. on any surface in general, i'd pick hewitt's backhand though.
     
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  14. diegaa

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    Yeap, nadal´s forehand. no doubt.
     
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  15. subtleskeptics

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    Nalbandian's groundstrokes are consistent as heck.
     
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  16. MasterTS

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    Safest shot of all time:

    Roddick's volley.
     
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  17. psamp14

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    of today's tour, i would say nadal's crosscourt forehand, federer's return of serve, and basically all of federer and nadal's strokes...
     
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  18. Steven87

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    DING DING DING

    Nalbandian's forehsand(wirst release one)
     
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  19. helloworld

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    Hewitt's backhand is a VERY consistant stroke. It looks simple and efficient. He has no equal when it comes to making a safe backhand stroke, but in terms of power, he's still far behind many pros...
     
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  20. helloworld

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    HA HA HA ! Nice post. :)
     
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  21. EliteNinja

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    All of Nadal's shots.
    And all of Federer's shots (when he's not playing Nadal on clay).
     
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  22. World Class Forehand

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    Agassi's backhand is very dependable!
     
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  23. yoga

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    Steffi Graf's backhand slices
     
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  24. idioteque

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    what about safin's backhand?
     
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  25. Golden Retriever

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    Any pro's 2handed backhand.
     
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  26. Marat Safinator

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    nadal's shots, he rolls them back in with topspin.
     
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  27. Marat Safinator

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    safin doesnt play any of his shots safely. he goes for it most of the time.
     
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  28. Amone

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    Hingis- anything really, and any woman's shank. I've come to expect them to fall in, unlike the men's tour.
     
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  29. brucie

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    Well in WTA we could say the henin backhand.
     
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  30. tennisprofl

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    venus' forehand and backhand.....(jk)
     
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  31. Captain America

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    How about the Seles backhand? Or maybe it was her forehand. I could never tell the difference between them....
     
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  32. FiveO

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    If the question includes all-time = Chris Evert.

    When she committed an error off the ground, which was like every seventh blue moon, it was notable. She hit consistently harder and deeper than any of her contemporaries off the ground yet was so incredibly consistent that you really expected her NEVER to commit an error. Very near impenetrable. While not particularly thrilling, her ground game was truly incredible.

    More recently Graf's bh, and Agassi off either side once he morphed into "The Punisher" come to mind as incredibly safe shots.

    Today it is a little harder to define. Obviously topspin is safer and easier to be consistent with. Flatter hitters, i.e. Hrbaty and Thomas Johansson style hitters show more up and down results, than those who play with more topspin off the ground. With a few exceptions almost all top players can hit with incredible safety and hit off either wing indefinitely. As always, so many other things factor into safety in a game primarily played baseline to baseline with topspin off both wings. It comes down to footspeed, fitness, patience, surface, offensive or defensive minded-ness, etc., of each player which determines their winner to error ratios and ultimately how consistent they appear. Mechanically none of these guys would miss if those other limiters were not involved. Obviously a Nadal, who is less offensive minded than a Federer, appears more consistent or to hit safer off the ground, but I would submit that is more a product of those other factors than mechanical reliability. Even Hewitt's bh is a product of those other factors in that he simply doesn't attempt to do as much with it as he does with his fh. He is incredibly quick and fit but is more offensive with his fh, hence more errors on that side than with his 2-hander. Nadal's game is predicated on speed and fitness thus he can play and win primarily with consistency. Federer has those attributes but is more offensive minded and appears less patient so goes for more. Nalby isn't particularly fast or fit and so must go for even more, even earlier in points...And so on.

    That being said, the 2-hander is a mechanically more simple (less moving parts) than either a 1 handed bh or fh and the way Hewitt uses his, within the overall framework of his game it is extremely safe.
     
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  33. aramis

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    Used to be Ferrero's forehand. Not anymore though.
     
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  34. TREX

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    Nadal's Butt picking stroke. He seems to go to

    it when he is under pressure.
     
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  35. Breaker

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    Murray/Hewitt/Nadal passing shots. These 3 always seem to know what to do with the ball on the passing shot, Hewitt has his dtl shot along with his topspin lobs, Nadal has his dipping shots on the run and Murray seems to just toy with someone who's at the net until he passes them for a winner.

    Forehand: Nadal
    Backhand: Hewitt
    1st serve: Nadal
    2nd serve: Roddick
    Volley: MIRNYI
     
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  36. tennisboy87

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    Nadal's forehand and Hewitt's backhand.
     
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  37. aramis

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    Coria's strokes are also very consistent.
     
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  38. Supernatural_Serve

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    Agassi's baseline shots. They are short, compact, taking the ball earlier using the opponent's pace exhibiting excellent consistency, depth, not much spin (more flattened out), and power.

    Many aspects of that swing make it "safer" although the flattening out adds risk of failing to clear the net, and he steals time from the opponent as a bonus.
     
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  39. fishuuuuu

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    Especially his serve, in the finals.
     
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  40. Shabazza

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    I disagree. Federer's 2nd serve is the most consistant and accurate, imo! He did only 3 or 4 DF's during the 2 weeks of Wimbledon, while he is going for medium to high risk pretty often (unless Nadal), including some 2nd serve aces and many service winner. I've never seen him doing more than 5 DF's in a match.
     
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  41. sureshs

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    I have a question - why do most of you consider a topspin like Nadal's FH safe? Sure the spin keeps it in, but isn't it a great risk to hit a topspin with so much racquet head acceleration and back swing with the potential of not contacting the ball cleanly? The result is a safe shot, but executing it does not seem "safe" to me. With small wooden racquets, it would have been impossible.
     
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  42. 127mph

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    safin and agassi
     
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  43. Rickson

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    Who has the largest margin for error? Coria has a pretty loopy forehand. Nadal's forehand also gets a lot of net clearance.
     
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  44. uxnaitoahz

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    Maria Sharapova's grunt is the most consistent tennis shot. EVER.
    I mean come on, it never misses. It will always do its job: distract the opponents.
     
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  45. tennis_eel

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    Ljubicic's backhand and Nalbandian's ground strokes.
     
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  46. sandiegotennisboy

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    hingis can probably keep the ball alive off either wing forever and ever unless she plays a big babe
     
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  47. dtmmfam

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    i'm gonna go with all of chela's shots.
     
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  48. Roy

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    - Nadal's groundies
    - Fed's slice backhand
    - Edberg's volleys (esp. backhand)
     
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