What should I do for my strained wrist?

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  1. Muppet

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    My right forhand wrist has been getting strained during sessions of a clinic I'm taking. I've had to leave early twice. I even sat out for two weeks to rest it, to no avail. I didn't go so far as to make it a severe strain. The reason for it is a combination of things.

    1) I played without a vibe damp when I should have been using one.
    2) I have been on the computer and mousing a lot.
    3) I had to shovel a lot of snow while it was aggravated.
    4) I'm learning a new grip and I may be a little too wristy.

    I really want my wrist to be ready for the outdoor season (May around here.)
    -Should I forgoe the remaining four sessions of my clinic (weekly?)
    -Should I get physical therapy?
    -Glucosamine Chondroitin worked for my knees in 2003. Would it help with my wrist?
    -Is there a name for my malady? Is it tendonitis?

    Thank you for any help.
     
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    Del Porto had wrist surgery in 2009. In 2012 his wrist was injured and he consulted Dr Berger for a diagnosis. Did he have the newly discovered Split UT Ligament Injury? He did not have that injury. He was cleared to play in Davis Cup but later pulled out.

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    You have an undiagnosed injury and it sounds as if the new forehand technique that you are performing in the clinic might be the cause. ??

    If you know what a proper forehand stroke looks like you might be able to see obvious stroke technique flaws with high speed video or even with 30 or 60 fps video. This is the most important use of high speed video. See serve example below.

    I'm not sure that it was my serving technique that was causing my wrist pain, but, in any case, I don't want that wrist angle in my serve. I was also practicing the 'current' forehand with a new ball machine. The forehand could also have caused the stress and pain. I stopped practicing both forehands and serves and the mild wrist pain gradually went away. This spring I'll start again with more angle between my forearm and racket on the serve and more attention to my forehand technique.

    If you have quit your clinic twice already it sounds as if you have a more serious injury than I had so you should not stress it by playing. Best to see a Dr also.

    Some replies with information on wrist injuries-

    See especially. http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=422414&highlight=chas+tennis+known+forehand

    Example of technique flaw picked up with high speed video.
     
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    Depending on how bad your strain is, you can likely continue to play if you secure your wrist. I suffered a mild-moderate strain and once I felt ready I played with a wrist support from McDavid. It really helped. I feel your frustration. Nothing worse than having to sit out with an injury and worry about aggravating it more when playing. After your wrist feels 100% start a regime of strengthening and stretching your forearms and wrists.
     
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    Developing a chronic condition that could have been avoided is much worse.

    Sitting out might always be best......?.....

    " I really want my wrist to be ready for the outdoor season (May around here.)"
     
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    A couple of years ago, I made the mistake of playing in 2 events in a very large tournament and strained my wrist. I ended up taping it up, but it never really healed until I stopped playing a couple of weeks and focused on icing and stretching it. I don't know if it works or not, but this guy told me about 'active' stretching of the wrist and it did seem to help. It might have been a placebo effect, but it tricked me!

    I'd take time off, like chas said, it is gets worse you could be looking at something chronic or even surgery.
     
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    Would agree that sitting out is imperative. The wrist is a special kind of injury because the carpal tunnel is very rigid with no room for expansion (i.e. inflammation) inside it. So playing through an injury and risking further inflammation where there's no room for it is particularly foolish and can really do damage. I suspect it's why I know so many people (many of them secretaries who did it typing) whose carpal tunnel syndromes seem to have become permanent.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies. It has occurred to me what technique I was doing wrong on the night the wrist started kicking up. We were practicing volleys. When I first started volleying in the early 90s, on the forhand side I would use my eastern grip. I liked it that way because I could nail it further out in front than with the continental grip. I still hit the forhand volley out front, but with a continental grip. To do this, I have to lay my hand back and it can take a pretty sharp blow sometimes. It's a great shot, but it's taking me out of the game for a bit. I'll be sure to relax and take that ball further back from now on.

    I have my wrist wrapped in a layer of tourna grip and a layer of thin medical tape. It gives a little support and is comfortable. I think I'll go in for PT though. I don't want to miss any of the Summer season.

    Thanks again.
     
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    By 'PT' do you mean physical therapy from a medically trained therapist and prescribed by a Dr after diagnosis? On occasion, 'PT' is used for physical training offered by trainers who are not medically trained.
     
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    Yes, I meant Physical Therapy. Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    I'd get a doc to diagnose and then ask him/her at the appointment about what physical therapy he recommends. You'll feel better just know what is going on.
     
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    That would be good advice, but around here everyone's a specialist. The PT people practice at a very high standard and I'd rather go with their plan. Thanks for the suggestion though.
     
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    As long as you are getting quality care that is the bottom line.
     
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    The doctor I went to for an evaluation wants to send me around their hospital for further evaluations. This after I asked him to send me to the OT/PT office of my choice.

    The two injuries I have can easily be handled at the place where I want to go. This is ******* me off. I'm leaning toward just getting some nice Superfeet insoles and Merrell shoes and hike myself into shape. Western medicine forces the body to perform in certain ways too much (often invasive.) Rather than pay a bunch of co-pays and have to go to the appointments, I may be better off just taking care of myself.

    That damn walk-in clinic doctor said that I can get a wrist brace that I can wear overnight. He was purposely attempting to create a problem. Hey, all the more insurance money for them! And when I tried asking the outside office if I could be seen without a doctor's order, I found that I couldn't. I'm sure it would be the same run around with my primary care. She's at the same hospital.

    I got a wrist brace, but I'm only using it for activities when I need it (computer, shoveling snow, etc.) And I'm taking a break from tennis until the wrist is 100% back. Luckily, my injuries don't keep me from weight training.

    Thanks for listening. I guess my signature isn't applying right now.
     
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  14. Muppet

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    Some of you may have noticed that I've been running into poor customer service around town lately (from my point of view.) My explanation for this is that it's not about 'how I am' as much as it's about 'who I am.' It's complicated. So I guess I've been comming on here ranting more than expecting your help. Sorry about that. I guess I'll just feel my way through it.
     
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    Get a second opinion and don't see a surgeon.
     
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    Is the "doctor I went to for an evaluation" a hand specialist/surgeon?

    If so, he is the one who treats most wrist problems, and is the one who ends up seeing all the wrist injuries in your area that don't get better on their own over time.

    Most walk-in clinic doctors and primary care physicians have limited knowledge taking care of wrist injuries- ESPECIALLY LIMITED for tennis players (like no experience at all, unless it gets better by itself).


    Where on the wrist is the pain?

    Could it be a TFCC injury?

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    You may find it helpful to read through this page on wrist injuries from the USTA:
    Wrist Injuries http://www.usta.com/Improve-Your-Ga...uries-Prevention-and-Recovery/Wrist_Injuries/
     
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    The medical person who takes care of the hand, wrist and forearm up to the elbow is a hand specialist or "hand surgeon".

    There is no corresponding medical "non-surgeon" person who gets the training for the hand and wrist.

    Most hand surgeons, and most surgeons, don't operate on the majority of the patients they see.

    But they can make the diagnosis of what is wrong, institute therapy, monitor progress/lack of progress, and alter therapy.


    Still, I share your suspicion that there may be a tendency for a "surgeon" to recommend an operation too easily.
    But as you indicate, patients can always at least ask for a second opinion, and certainly persist in a rest/rehab direction for anything other than a clear cut torn ligament/tendon or broken bone.
     
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    C Fed,

    From the graphic you posted, it looks to me like I crunched the cluster of bones just above the wrist. I have no swelling, just pain; and it seems to be subsiding. I'm going to make an appointment with a sports medicine doctor tommorow. I'll also cancel the appointments I have at the hospital I usually go to.

    The doctor who gave me the evaluation was on shift at the walk in clinic. It's part of general internal medecine that is open late so that those who have primary care in the hospital won't have to use the ER. Quite frankly, trusting my injuries to a hospital is scaring me. Thanks for your help.
     
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    You're smart to get it checked out by a sports medicine specialist.

    You were also smart to get it checked out in a timely fashion, and for many that means seeing an ER physician.

    I didn't mean to bash ER physicians or your hospital.

    ER docs usually have great talent to take care of life threatening emergencies, and at least evaluate problems to decide if they constitute an emergency.
    So many of the non-emergency wrist problems they see are "minor" strains and sprains, and most get better with rest, splinting and time.

    But as you are a tennis player, it is more important to make sure there is not something "more" going on, so you don't go back to play too early and just have an early recurrence, or worsen the situation.


    Believe me, I still really hope this turns out to be something that will get better fairly quickly.

    Let us know how you are doing.
     
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    Thanks C Fed. I'll post up my progress as I go.
     
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    In addition to the wrist curls and reverse wrist curls that I normally do in my workout, I've added wrist stretches that I learned when I took Aikido briefly. My right (dominant) wrist feels like I might be able to play with the brace I bought, but I'm going to wait until mid April so I will have five more workouts on it, as well as the two more weeks of rest. In addition, my new racquet is a cushy hit, although I've barely been able to hit with it yet.
     
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    how's the wrist? hope it's healthy now.
     
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    It still bothers me a little, mainly from mousing and scrolling on the computer. I am able to play with a wrist brace. When I've gone to practice my serve and forgotten the brace, it has gotten a little aggravated. But I am playing again. That's the good news.

    Thanks for asking
     
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    have you tried wearing a brace while using your computer? i find the computer puts more stress on my hand tendons than most other activities...
     
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    Chances are you need a heavier and more flexible racquet. What are you using ? If its stiff and light thats gonna be an issue. And what string are you using? If its a dead or stiff poly, it could be a source of grief as well.
     
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    You're right, I was using the brace while on the computer and it was working. I wanted my wrist to get used to life without the brace, so I've been going without it. Once I finish this reply, I'll go get it out of my bag and put it on.

    My racquets are of the flexy/heavy variety. But I have Cyberflash / Hexy fiber @50/55 -dropweight, in my Dunlop MW 200G 95, my favorite racquet. It's a pretty firm stringbed, with a good amount of feedback. I added an elastic band damper on it and it seems to have quieted down. With the wrist brace, playing doesn't bother it but practicing my serve can aggravate it a little. I injured it from volleying, so serving replicates that motion. I have to get into a practice of icing it after tennis as well.
     
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    I'm still getting some pain when hitting hard with a firm stringbed. I usually hold the grip pretty loose, except at impact. At that point I squeeze fairly hard and it's hurting my wrist. Today I tried out Silverstring 1.20 @50 in my Dunlop Muscleweave 200G 95. The Viper Dry overgip I have on there is very tacky. Should I keep my grip looser through impact and trust the Viper Dry more? Would a more relaxed hand protect my wrist more without losing the racquet?

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
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  28. charliefedererer

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    The general rule of thumb is to hit with just enough grip to hold onto the racquet.

    Squeezing too hard causes the whole arm to tense up and tense muscles don't perform optimally.

    Additionally tense muscles will transmit more stress to the wrist, rather than allowing the elastic muscle to absorb the shock.

    Last week I was hitting with a teaching pro that I often hit with.
    I actually lost my racquet on a backhand finish (haven't done that in a really long time).
    His only half-joking comment was "Glad to see you're not squeezing the racquet too tight."
     
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    In the next month I'm going to rent a ball machine for an hour. I'll see if I can't soften up my forhand grip and learn to groove a new OHBH with a relaxed grip.
     
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    I started having some wrist pain last summer, and I think it was due to using too much wrist on the FH and playing guys who hit with more topspin. Then I didn't play from November until April and the pain was completely gone. So I think rest would definitely help.
     
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    As it is, I only get to play once a week, due to lack of transportation.

    I discovered that a medication that I take causes my muscles to not retain muscle tone well. I believe it's the reason I've been having trouble with some of my joints, not to mention chest pains for which I've been on a low maintenance dose of asprin. The primary care and the specialist obviously don't read eachother's reports. Shouldn't they? My doctor will be switching me over to something else soon. I sure hope I get my muscle tone back soon.
     
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    ^^^^ This!

    Rule of thumb: if you do not get enough power returning the ball with a lose grip it means your swing is too slow.

    Have the racket do the work not your arm!
     
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    Read the sheet from the pharmacy first. Then look up the drug side effects on the internet. Unfortunately, there are many side effects and it's difficult to determine how likely it is that you might experience a side effect. It is usually disturbing to research the side effects because there are usually some scary stories.

    I had some odd calf cramps at night after starting statins. Statins are intended to reduce Cholesterol but Cholesterol is normally used by the body in building cells. I found that others experienced the same cramp side effect. I was able to change my diet to reduce Cholesterol and get off statins.

    I just had pneumonia and took Levaquin, a strong anti-biotic. It has some unusual side effects that I learned from the pharmacy literature that came with the drug. One side effect is tendon rupture. I'm not playing tennis for 6 weeks hopefully to lessen the chance that I might have a tendon injury.

    You have to look out for yourself and learn about the side effects.
     
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