What Tomic is everyone else watching?

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  1. SStrikerR

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    I'm confused. I keep reading posts about this Tomic guy, who people say will be a top 10 player, grand slam winner, potentially even number 1. I'm really wonder who this guy is. I've seen Bernard Tomic play, but that can't be him. The Tomic I watch has nice feel, but a crappy serve, no weapons, and unspectacular athletic ability. In short, nothing special. So that can't be the guy people are talking about...right?


    Tl;dr version

    Tomic sucks. I don't know what crack people are smoking to think he'll be good, but it must be some pretty good stuff.
     
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  2. Sabratha

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    Tomic is a poor man's teenage Federer.
     
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  3. ace_pace

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    Well he is only 19-20 years old and already cracked the top 100. But we will see if he can go any further.
     
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    I'm watching the guy who made Wimby QF's at 18.
     
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  5. SStrikerR

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    Yes because beating a rapidly declining davydenko, Andreev, soderling coming off of a 5 setter, and malisse clearly indicates he's a real gem. Oh, did I mention the amount of times he got bagelled this year? He seems like a very motivated guy who's totally going to put the effort in to become good.

    Not.

    Also sabratha, I dunno how you feel about Federer but he wasn't THAT bad as a teenager. You're insulting him by even making that comparison.
     
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    Getting to QF's of a slam at 18 is always going to be impressive, please gain some perspective. I'm not saying he's shown that he has the mentality and whatnot to become a great player.
     
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    I dunno, man. While one decent run in a major isn't exactly a harbinger for greatness, it doesn't change the fact that Tomic was expected to lose all those matches. Maybe if he had he just scraped by Davy and got straight-setted by Andreev then we could chalk it up to one bad match by a veteran, but he played well to beat four seasoned, if not dominant pros.

    That Wimby means jack-all for the future at this point, of course, but he did play some legitimately good tennis.
     
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    I was impressed back in 2011 AO when he gave Nadal all he could handle for 2 sets.
     
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    Tomic used to be the best teenager in the world. That's why people expected him to make it big in the pro tour, but he hasn't done so until now.
     
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    Could one reason he lost motivation be his dad? His dad seems to be quite an *** and pushed him very hard. a lot of kids with tennis/figure skating or whatever parents lose interest when they are adults because they did not really play for themselves but for their parents.
     
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    Tomic is an overrated idiot, talent = slicing the ball? :lol: :lol: :lol:

    He has the movement of a sloth, his backhand is trash and his forehand is hit and miss. His serve is also bad for his height. The mug also has no return and no mental fortitude.
     
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    Tomic only beat 4 top 50 opponents this season.

    Can't see him defending his AO points, so I expect he'll be ranked somewhere in the 90s after January.
     
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    R128 Jeremy Chardy................6-4, 6-1, 6-1
    R64 Kevin Anderson...............6-3, 6-4, 6-2
    R32 Marcos Baghdatis............6-4, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4
    R16 Michael Llodra................6-3, 6-3, 6-3
    Q Bernard Tomic................6-2, 3-6, 6-3, 7-5
    S Jo-Wilfried Tsonga.......... 7-6, 6-2, 6-7, 6-3
    W Rafael Nadal...................6-4, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3
     
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    How many times did he get bagelled this year?
     
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    Tomic is a disgrace.

    It's sad that a great tennis nation like Australia will be left with this mug being the 'face' of their tennis after Hewitt retires.
     
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    It's been party time for Tomic the Tank Engine. He lives on the Gold Coast in Australia which is a holiday destination for 17/18 year olds who have just finished high school at the end of November. The name given to older guys who try and pick up the drunk young girls is Toolies (Too old for Schoolies). Apparently Tomic was quite a hit with the ladies and was king of the Toolies over the past week. Just what my spies tell me.
     
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    My God, an average teen exploiting his own celebrity. But yes its not the path to glory, but some australian players used to show up with a hangover.
     
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    My God, what has Australian tennis become?
     
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    This.


    But his game successive in the juniors because of his consistency. Now when faced against other consistent players who are bigger, more athletic, and have weapons, he isn't as good.


    When I watch him, I see a pusher who is too tall and strong to be a pusher, but lacks the balls to go for his shots or hit with real authority and power. He's also a bit immature still.
     
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    I don't see him ever breaking the top 10.
     
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    It's true. There are tons of photos of him out partying this off-season. Plus, looks like he bought himself a new set of wheels:

    Doesn't bode well for 2013 to be any better for him in terms of success on the court.
     
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  22. batz

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    The last teenager before him to make a slam QF was Ernests Gulbis. It's not necessarily an indicator of forthcoming greatness.
     
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    Any Aussies here?

    What do you think of the fact that this is the guy who will be upholding your great tennis tradition over the next decade?
     
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    I feel sorry for the Australian people here, they will still have to rely on Hewitt to carry their nations hopes for anything, and he will be calling it a career very soon I believe. I also believe Hewitt will become the #1 Australian again in 2013, probably ending the year ranked between 15-30.
     
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    I'm an Aussie and in my opinion he won't be upholding anything.
    On what we've seen so far he lacks character and guts.
     
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    The tomic that everyone saw was the tomic that made some runs in the 2011 where he reached the qfs (lost to djokovic) and 3rd round at the AO (lost to Nadal). Hes young and promising solid player doesnt do anything really great but solid all around. Time will tell how he fares on the tour but people shouldnt get on his case just yet HES 20 YEARS OLD
     
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    Hewitt was #1 in the world at age 20.
     
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  30. tennisfan2010

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    You would think after the year he's had Tomic would be doing everything he can to try and get his stuff together, but it is increasingly obvious now that tennis is not a top priority for him. Between the off-the-court incidents and no change of coach, I think his 2013 could be even worse.
     
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    nicely done mah mate
     
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    Don't forget he is a complete mental midget and an a-hole too
     
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    It is really unfortunate that thanks to our fantastic (and unfortunately now very distant) tennis heritage any Aussie player with promise is almost set up for failure before they start.

    I'm only in my early forties but the tennis school I went to as a kid had produced Wendy Turnbull and a young kid called Pat Rafter was just another hopeful competing with us in regional tournaments. And you'd still see plenty of ex Davis Cup and Grand Slam champs around the courts of Brisbane.

    Blind Freddy can see that Tomic has gone off the tracks and needs a reality check to bring him back if he has any hope of fulfilling his potential. Unfortunately with the Ferraris and glamour lifestyle we have another Philippoussis in the making. It may be the best thing for him is to completely crash and burn at the 2013 AO so he is forced to chose what he wants and who he needs to help him get there.

    P.S. Our highest ranked player is now Marinko Matosevic who has an even more dour game than Tomic.
     
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    If you can believe it, 6 times.

    Basel: R32 Mikhail Youzhny L 0-6, 2-6

    Shanghai: R64 Florian Mayer L 4-6, 0-6

    US Open: R64 Andy Roddick L 3-6, 4-6, 0-6

    Gstaad: R32 Benoit Paire L 0-6, 4-6

    Barcelona: R32 Albert Montanes L 0-6, 7-5, 5-7

    Indian Wells: R128 Gilles Muller L 6-4, 6-7(4), 0-6

    As a comparison, Federer has been bageled 4 times in his entire career, 3 of them coming from 1999 when he was 18 and 1 coming from the French Open final with Nadal. This would mean, of course, a 9 year period in his tennis career when he never suffered a bagel. I haven't looked into it, but that must be the record.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with this lad that a large helping of humble pie and a tough coach wouldn't cure. However, unless he's able to lure Lendl away from Murray and hire him to whisper, "Remember, thou art mortal," in his ear I don't think he's going to get one any time soon. Certainly not as long as he has dad with the bellows clipped tightly to his son's fundament furiously pumping hot air.

    Anyone so dumb and so comically arrogant as to discount the words of Tony Roche, John Newcomb and Pat Rafter in favour of the wisdom of Ignori Dadaknownothink deserves to spend his career languishing in the low 50s. As he stands now he has all the charm (and the hairstyle) of a old toilet brush and I would imagine that sponsors feel the same way.

    His only other chance might be to turn to the good book for answers, "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." I think I'll wait for the next big thing from Oz tennis just the same.
     
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  36. Crisstti

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    I have been impressed by his play sometimes. It's more than I can say about any of the other young players.

    He's still young. maybe he'll get tired of partying after a while and will decide to get serious about tennis.
     
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  37. BrooklynNY

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    His game is eclectic, sometimes fun to watch, but it's not slam winning pedigree, obviously. He'll be like Santoro(not really- but), he'll win a couple of big matches against top players, give a couple of players fits, and maybe one day will stop giving up/tanking in matches and be a tough out for players.

    I basically agree with the OP though.
     
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    I think it was Todd Woodbridge who made a fine observation about him at last year's AO. He thought his shot selection was like a club player at times insofar as he goes for the cute shot for no reason or takes the pace right off the ball even when he has plenty of time for no apparent reason. He looked like a ball feeder to Federer at times during their game lobbing sitters over the net for him to blast away for winners. Woodbridge observed then, as have many others since, that a proper professional coach wouldn't put up with that dross for ten minutes but tell him he had to redline his game if he wanted to play with the big boys.
     
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  39. Sabratha

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    Isn't it a bit late for Tomic to totally overhaul his game? He's 20 years old.
     
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  40. cluckcluck

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    Maybe Mr. Philippoussis could step in and teach him a few things about spending money like it's going out of style and breaking into the top 10, and maybe even making a couple of major finals.
    In all seriousness, he'll likely end up in jail or something.
     
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    Not at all - to survive in tennis one must constantly change and improve on one's game. The ones who sit and languish in their old style are the ones who fall behind. Think of Hewitt, Nalbandian...oh the times, they are a'changin.
     
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    I don't think he wanted a complete overhaul - just for him to stop dicking around like he was having a hit out with the ducks at the local club thinking he was going to bamboozle top players with slices and funky sidespin. Really it was an approach thing but to be honest I don't think the kid has much character or heart so I'll be surprised if much changes.
     
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    What he really needs is to grow a pair...and it is definitely too late for that.
     
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    The Dog won a tournament (DC?) as soon as he stopped slicing his backhand. Slice works, but only in moderation.

    Tomic has to do one thing to improve his game - add 10 mph to his serve. At 6'5 his serve is an embarrassment.
     
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    Just like on the court, he doesn't learn from his mistakes either:
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/b...t-yellow-ferrari/story-fn9eu7in-1226528787305

    1. If they attempt to arrest you for driving an M3 illegally, why do you think a police van is following you driving a F430 illegally?

    2. You have not played enough tennis yet to afford TWO expensive cars when one of which is a sizable fraction of your total earnings.

    Use some sense kid.
     
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    it was painful to watch him against roddick @ the Open
     
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    As evidenced by his spurts of success, his game is fine. It's his mind that needs to be rattled up. Honestly, a good smack in the face by a veteran tennis player would probably do it.
     
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    Wow, wasn't the last incident only a few weeks ago?

    Also "He stopped for a casual coffee with a male friend"
    I find this statement kind of funny, the writer could have just stopped at friend. :)
     
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    Two good things will happen to Tomic soon. Firstly the money will run out and he'll be forced to sell his cars. Then for the first time in his life he'll have players who are younger than him ranked higher than him. If those two things don't wake him up he can kiss any thought of a successful career goodbeye.
     
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    He won half of a million dollars in prize money during 2012, plus whatever his endorsements pay him, plus what Tennis Australia pays him; add all that up and it's certainly more than enough to buy a $200K Ferrari and a $100K M3
     
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