Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by jamesblakefan#1, Mar 22, 2010.
Hot Tub Time Machine.
Some funny stuff there!
The Magnificent Seven - Yul Brenner, Steve McQueen
i love you beth cooper. not sure how bad it is yet
DO watch this movie. It's much better than most movies today.
Tina, seeing you post this makes me question our future together.
Rachel getting Married is better than this over-rated middling fare.
Well, when you've finally formed an opinion of what you've seen, please let us know.
I kind of like the Rachel Getting Marred flick, it was OK.
Thank you, CC
I couldn't stop laughing when I saw your post.
men in the iron mask
I became a Will Smith fan when I saw this movie.
I was kind of putting a combined "prince of Bel Air"/"Bad Boys"/"Independence Day" stamp on the guy, but I realized later that he can actually carry a movie all by himself and perform in VERY different roles.
Mark of a good actor in my book.
Don't know about the book but the movie is quite depressing. A good movie? I thought it was going to be better than what some have said.
I've no real dog in this Rachel vs. The Shawshank Redemption fight, but whatever philistine sensibilities I may harbor got the better of me with regard to the later as I've never watched 'Shawshank if for no other reason than the name reeked of self-important pretense. How flimsy is that logic? lol
The SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION....oooooh....."THIS is an important work of art."
That said, ever see the movie "Morgan!" ?? It's an amusing (if off-beat) watch.
(David Warner, Vanessa Redgrave)
Annie Get Your Gun
Toy Story 3!
Law Abiding Citizen...........loved it!
I'm not sure it's main sin is pretentiousness, but perhaps Hollywood schmaltz, but it's been so long since I've seen it I can't really remember why it was not so great.
Never even heard of it, which is surprising. Just looked it up, and it does seem up my alley.
Just saw Knight and Day...give it 2.75 stars, some of if was just too fast paced...it was like they came of with a bunch of action scenes first then tried to string them together.... It was kind of like a james bond light....too light unfortunately.... I guess if you really want to see a movie fine, but id reccomend the A-team over it... the A-team was more fun and exciting, but they are both lotta action slim on story, but atleast the A-team was a little smarter.
"We own the night"...saw that one yesterday. Pretty good movie...and Eva Mendes is hot .
not good, but i enjoyed it for entertainment value. only because the cheerleader is in it lol
i thought knight and day was not bad
Dinocroc vs. Supergator
"Sin Nombre", good little flick about a mexican girl, her father and a gang member hunted by his own gang who embark on a perilous journey to immigrate (illegaly) to the US.
As for "Shawshank..." I saw it again on Blu-ray recently. Not the masterpiece some make it out to be (perhaps it gets some hate because too many people have it in their top 10 ), but still a fine film with Capra-esque qualities. It's interesting to note that it was relatively overlooked when it came out, in a year where "Pulp Fiction" and "Forrest Gump" were plastered all over multiplex screens. If I had some hate to throw around, it would be directed at the later, which hammers you over the head with it's silly manipulative "message" with the subtlety of a bull in a china shop...
I don't recall "The Shawshank Redemption" being overlooked when it came out, and it did garner 7 oscar nominations. Is it the worst movie ever made? No, not at all. Is it one of the more over-rated films out there? Yes.
For what it's worth, which I guess is nothing, it was based on a short story by Stephen King, though I never read it.
Overlooked in theaters, not by the Academy. That year, it became known as "the best film (almost) nobody ever saw". It only started to garner popularity after it hit the video stores.
You are of course entitled to your opinion, but the aforementionned "Forrest Gump" is, imho, far more "overrated" than Shawshank.
Of course, I also believe that the term "overrated" is... well... overrated when it comes to film criticism.
Watched wolfman last night, terrible special effects the werewolfs looked like teen wolf, anthony hopkins good as always kept me interested.
I was more upset that theaters pulled the Paranormal Activity 2 trailer at the beginning of the film.
While meeting w/ Jamie foxx and friend in her office, the judge gets a cellphone call and picks up, utters "Hello?" into the receiver and gets her brains blown out the left side of her head (phone had an explosive trigger inside). Caught me off guard, so I jumped.
What's your source for that quote?
I'm not sure Forrest Gump IS overrated. It may have performed very well and won some awards, but I don't think film critics and the like take it entirely seriously and routinely include it in retrospective "best films" lists. I think Shawhank has better lasting critical acclaim, and I'm not sure it's warranted.
Just Watched The Book Of Ely It Was Decent
The Last Airbender...
Then we obviously do not share the same definition of "overrated".
biggest let down of the year...
I don't watch the cartoon of The Last Airbender but to the guys that have seen the movie and so far, had negative reviews about the movie, is it just a bad adaptation of the TV show or just a bad movie altogether?
I watch a lot of movies, probably 1 every day. No teen comedy BS though, only high quality movies. I am currently watching Memento
just finished 'The Hurt Locker'
Not bad. Another war film about Iraq/Afghanistan.
Ending was a little weird, but jman gives it a 7.5/10.
Same here. So much tension in that movie but the ending was bit odd.
i really enjoyed the ending the perfect way to end it after that scene of him in the grocery store he really loved the madness
Well, I use the standard and commonly understood definition of "overrated". If you use some other, strange one, then perhaps we don't share the same definition.
Another overrated film. But the ending, the last 60 seconds or so, were good though.
saw the rebound last night. dont ask lol
1. For a film to be "overrated", it must be highly rated by both critics and the public in the first place. Ok we have that.
2. For a film to be "overrated", it must also have, over time, developped a critical mass of reviewers/movie fans with a contrarian opinion, i.e. who can offer sensible arguments as to why they believe a film is "overrated".
As far as Shawshank is concerned, I just don't see that critical mass anywhere. Not amongst critics, not amongst moviegoers, and not on movie related forums.
You've got it backwards. The very fact that you haven't seen a critical mass of people calling the film overrated is the very evidence I would suggest demonstrates that it's overrated. I.e., people rate it "highly". Overly so in my opinion. Hence, I call it "overrated". Got it?
Watched the assasination of jesse james by the coward robert ford, highly underated movie, casey afflecks best acting to date not to mention imo the most perfectly shot movie EVER. loved it.
Also as im posting this im watching requiem for a dream which is in my top 5 movies of all time if you havent seen it i would reccomend it, but prepare to be horribly depressed...the first movie i have seen that as the credits were rolling i just sat there thinking oh my god what did i just watch.
Yes it's your opinion which, on it's own, has no bearing whatsoever on how a film "rates" without the above critical mass.
Furthermore, you just stated that "The Hurt Locker" is overrated when it's another perfect example of a film which routinely gets criticized and has achieved a critical mass of detractors. Since you're contradicting yourself, you really need to make up your mind...
the book of eli and donnie darko. Loved donnie darko, eli wasnt bad either
I saw "City of Men" which is meant to be the bookend to the excellent "City of God" and the "City of Men" mini-series (which I haven't seen). It's a tad uneven and too "polished" at times so it loses the documentary feel which made "City of God" so realistic and gut wrenching, but it's still worth a watch.
"I am legend"
It could have been great. Has a great intro. Has a very good first part, with an incredible atmosphere. Will Smith does a good job, I liked him in the role.
But then, they ruined it with a lot of Hollywood action cliches, unnecessary flashbacks, a stupid plot turn and those crappy CGI zombies. What could have been a great Sci-Fi psychological and existential drama turns into a videogame.
Missed opportunity, really. After several adaptations, this novel is still waiting for the great movie that lives in it.
The deterioration of Ellen Burstyn's character was just horrific. Truly scared me, it did...
It is a great movie, though. For different reasons, of course.
Watched The Wolfman not too long ago, and I have to say it was, at best, pretty average. Disappointing...as I'm a fan of Werewolf movies. I didn't like the Werewolf's facial appearance either.
Of course it's my opinion, you ninny. Where did I ever write -- and more importanty, WHY would I ever write -- something like "There is a critical mass of people who think Shawshank Redemption is overrated"?
I make my own judgements and recommendations to people. I don't rely on reguritating what others might have said. ("Should I see 'Shawshank Redemption', heycal? I've heard people like it and it got some great reviews." "Gee, I don't know Bob. I could give you my personal feelings about it, but aren't you just better off googling this, and following whatever advice you see there?")
Say what? There is no contradiction at all. If The Hurt Locker routinely gets criticized and has achieved a "critical mass" of detractors, it's news to me. While I can't claim to have done an in-depth investigation into it's current status among the "critical mass", it seems like I've spent the last year subjected to heaps of awards and critical praise bestowed upon this movie.
I saw Funny People the other day. Felt four hours long.
While Get Him to the Greek was surprisingly decent. The stuff in Vegas was quite hilarious.
Yes, I understand that people often use "over/under-rated" to reflect their personal opinion. My point is that it is misused. It's invariably used to reflect a film's value as art ("Good/Bad") when it really refers to personal preference ("Like/Dislike"). Not only are these not the same, but intelligent film criticism implies that one is able to understand the difference. I might very well dislike "Casablanca" or "The Seven Samurai" but I would never call these films "bad" or "overrated".
If it's "news to you" you frankly haven't looked very hard nor have you talked to many people who have seen this film. Again, "The Hurt Locker", along with films like "Forrest Gump" and "Crash", are perfect examples of films that routinely get criticized and are, well... overrated. "The Shawshank Redemption", not at all.
Now I realize I might sound a tad anal about this, but it's a pet peeve of mine. No reason to get so snippy, it's not good for your blood pressure. Here's a funny movie quote for you:
--- "You ninny!"
--- "Yes sir. In my case an accident of birth...but you sir...you're a self-made man."
Hey Bob. Just ignored unpleasant posts if I were you. Have a great weekend!!
By the way, thank you for the recommendation of Red Cliff. It was a master piece. Of course, I couldn't stop thinking about "Takeshi Kaneshiro"
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