Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by jamesblakefan#1, Mar 22, 2010.
Watched the "Hidden". great movie.....very good
I don't think so. Asian smart stereotype may have been there about him in general, but he seemed more of a leader-type. The cultural joke was not about smartness - having an uncle in China isn't about smartness. I was talking about that particular comment, maybe you are referring to the character in general. Would a different guy be assumed to have an uncle in Norway because he is of Norwegian descent or someone else an uncle in Ethiopia?
The overall level of comedy was low. This is the second movie after Jurassic World in which the characters are parodies of themselves. Do you think the Martinez (the Hispanic requirement) guy would be really smiling and cracking jokes if he was in a spaceship which could be destroyed any time in a dangerous maneuver? It is a joke about him being a joke.
I cannot understand why they do this. After spending so much time and money on special effects, they make a mockery of the human characters.
No. I am specifically referring to the comment he made. You clearly missed the frankly quite obvious joke he intended with his comment. You misinterpreted it as him actually meaning he had an influential uncle in China when in fact he was boasting to his peers that it took his type (Asian/Chinese people - pandering to the stereotype) to solve the problem for them... effectively: "look at how we saved your ass."
Your sarcasm radar was really off on that one.
They cast Kristen Wiig in a key, supposedly serious, role. That should tell us enough about how much they cared about attempting to be credible.
Elevator to the Gallows / Ascenseur pour l'echafaud (1958) - Louis Malle. Seeing it again after a year or so. Very interesting.
On the Waterfront (1954)
Watched it for the first time and enjoyed it but will forget it quickly IMO. Put back into the context of 1954 it sure is a great movie however.
Featuring Marlon Brando (Best actor award).
Oh I see.
But usually an Asian-American is an institution like NASA would go out of the way to avoid being linked with China. He might crack a joke about smart Chinese-Americans, but not one implying people in China being superior to people in the USA.
So then it comes back to a bad stereotype (unpatriotic) that the director is implying.
Why I say this is because in the photos of some older launch by NASA, there was an Asian guy who was easily identified because he used to keep an American flag beside him in mission control (some non-Caucasian guys think that they need to display flags or be overtly patriotic to compensate for not fitting in).
FFS he wasn't implying that people IN China were superior or anything to do with avoiding being linked with China. He was playing to the stereotype by suggesting it took China to solve America's problem and, because he himself is of Chinese lineage, the joke is complete.
You have totally missed the plot here. The stereotype is in commonplace and since movies generally try to somewhat reflect the real world, and most people would find humour in it, the director made use of it. It meant he could get a laugh without telling an obvious gag - which wouldn't fit with the tone of the film at all.
Seriously. If it takes this much effort to explain such an obvious joke you really lack a basic skill. You seem to have some slightly psychotic racism-obsessed mindset which constantly overlays misguided and frankly stupid cultural/racial overtones on things that don't warrant it at all.
I suggest you do some further looking beyond stopping at the first photo that confirms your own story. I google image searched for "nasa mission control flag" and dozens of the photos contain flags all over the place. My assumption from that is that a US flag in mission control is nothing remotely out of the ordinary. But your obsession with racism issues sees you interpret a random photo in a way which is almost certainly spurious.
For the sake of preventing you arguing this instead of googling I've collated a random selection here:
(All show multiple US flags strewn throughout mission control.)
I don't understand why you take such a small issue so seriously.
The photo I was referring to was not just a US flag in a room but one that this guy kept with him at all times in all photos.
In any case, I don't think you have explained the uncle reference. Being of a certain lineage and having an uncle there are two different issues. In fact, having too many relatives in a supposedly unfriendly country can be used to deny security clearance.
The joke was more similar to asking someone called Francino if he has relatives in the mafia.
Because you claimed "But they had to screw up somewhere - and they did. The lead mission engineer, a fat Chinese-American guy, somehow turns out to have an influential uncle in the Chinese space mission. Yeah they still could not leave him alone as a guy born and brought up in the US and leave it at that. Stupid."
You missed the mark on basically every point in that paragraph. Since you're so intent on always being a bringer of knowledge etc on the board you needed to be called out on it. Period.
Then you should have said so instead of "...because in the photos of some older launch by NASA, there was an Asian guy who was easily identified because he used to keep an American flag beside him in mission control..."
You just changed your example slightly now so it shifts the goal posts to make your example seem special when it probably isn't.
Cousin/uncle is a pretty commonplace joke which basically means "people like me" (e.g. ethnically, by nationality, religiously etc)
I cannot believe I am still explaining a joke most 15 year olds would get.
WTF? The guy is HEAD of JPL, the time for him to worry about security clearance because of some chance a relative might increase his likelihood of risk is probably 20 years gone.
No, it's more similar to an Italian-American taking pride in an Italian football team beating another country and joking to his mates how good "my cousins" are.
Man I struggle to remember someone with a humour radar as busted as you've demonstrated here.
Watched The Accused that gave Foster her first oscar. Good but not remarkable movie. It's one of these films that doesn't have anything special plot wise or anything else but is made good due to opportunities it gave to the performers
Watched The Dark Knight Trilogy back to back to back (with breaks of course). Watching it this way, I feel the movies come as one great cohesive story. Just how Nolan's storytelling was done on each movie is awesome; and as a whole it comes together epically.
I also want to note that, I think, The Dark Knight is cited by a good majority as the best in the trilogy; but for me I'd have to go with Batman Begins, as I prefer its overall tone, story and representation of Batman himself.
Begins is a better Batman movie, but I find TDK a better overall movie. Not by much, though.
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