what went wrong with pro Boxing?

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  1. Ronaldo

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    Not surprising that boxing promoters are critical of mma fighters chins.
     
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  2. Vcore89

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    Take into account the difference in mma gloves as opposed to boxing.
     
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    I think boxing lost a lot of its appeal for a number of reasons. One is too many fixed fights. Boxing matches can be fixed several ways, i.e. corrupt / paid off officials; or where one fighter takes a dive; or the least common where the fight has been choreographed between both fighters. While most fans are oblivious to the latter two, most do know when the judges have been paid off, which undoubtedly has led to a loss of interest.

    Another reason is boxing isn't on free tv as often as it was in the old days, e.g. ABC, ESPN, USA, etc. Having weekly matches on cable tv gave the public a chance to get to know the fighters, or at least their names, so there would be more interest for the big PPV fights. Interest has declined because there are really only two or three fighters who are household names these days.

    Moreover, because there is greater awareness of the affects of boxing on the brain, I think fewer go into the sport or try to make a career out of it, thus there are fewer great boxers.

    Lastly, in the old days, there were 8 weight classes, one champion per class. Today there are 15 weight classes, and up to 5 world champions per class. This makes it confusing for fans, and more difficult for the champs to become household names, given that there are so many of them.
     
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  4. halbrikj

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    "Ali could take a punch better than anyone in boxing history IMO."

    IMO too.
     
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  5. Ronaldo

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    Sparred with 6 oz gloves. Guys fists felt like bricks. Literally got busted up.
     
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    I can only imagine what a 20-21 years old Iron Mike can do with a 6 oz glove in the octagon. Plus, he's always supplemented it with his patented tennis-like follow through (left and right ''elbows'').:)
     
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    Ronaldo, is it just for gags or are you serious about the $200 million winner takes all mega-fight of all time (the one involving Mayweather Jr)?

    My best guess would be for Mayweather to at least equal Joe Calzaghe then have a crack at Rocky Marciano's record and retire undefeated.

    Off-topic, Dana White's boys must be paid commensurate to the beatings they endure or the hurt they prescribe.:-| $200 million in boxing is just ginormous for the time being, but those $20-25 million payday for the winner and a $5 million loser's cheque, that just doesn't sit right considering how his boys' faces are getting PICASSOed!
     
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  8. Dedans Penthouse

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    You've missing the point. Cute avatar btw...



    He sure didn't help it any RUC. Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, etc.


    Good post, halbrikj.
     
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    Thanks, Dedans P.
     
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  10. Ronaldo

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    Mayweather will never accept a winner-take-all bout. If he possibly may not earn Money, it does not make Cents.
     
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    Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao because he knows he will lose. Al Haymon Golden Boy and Showtime give him easy safe fights where he will not lose or be hurt. They need a fake American star to package and sell as an all time great and Floyd is their counterfeit ATG.
     
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  12. PhrygianDominant

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    Well, after reading your post, I just watched a lot of Roy Jones Jr........


    and I loved it!


    Maybe I am a boxing fan.......
     
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    I bet SRL will!

    I think Mayweather will too when everyone else is frail, fragile and in slo-mo!
     
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  14. Gonzalito17

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    Roy Jones was an amazing fighter with speed and KO power. So explosive. He made James Toney look helpless and Toney is an all time great. But Roy became reluctant to face the best after he beat Toney, he dodged Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Steve Collins, Darius Michaelzjewski, Michael Nunn, and he tried to duck Antonio Tarver. At his best Roy was extraordinary.
     
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    Did Money ducked Amir Khan?

    Twitter poll set up by 'Money' himself. Khan won 60% of the 35,000 votes made by fans, seeing off the challenge of former opponent Marcos Maidana.
     
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    Mayweather Jr. bout is off, admits Khan

    Amir Khan has launched a Twitter attack on Floyd Mayweather Jr accusing the unbeaten light-middleweight star of being "disrespectful", stating there will be no fight made between them.
    Khan recently expressed doubts over whether a bout with 'Money' would materialise, but the Brit has since taken to the social networking site to indicate the American has "wasted his time."
    The 27-year-old had previously won a fans vote - held by Mayweather himself via Twitter - to be his next opponent and secured around 60% of the 35,000 votes over former opponent Marcos Maidana.
    Khan still leads the vote held on Mayweather's official website, although he conceded the fact that the champion is now likely to face Maidana - despite the Argentine admitting no deal had been agreed.
    Khan finished by apologising to his fans over the situation and stated that Mayweather was "running scared" from him.
    On Wednesday, Bob Arum - who promotes Mayweather's long-standing rival Manny Pacquiao - branded the 36-year-old's conduct a "disgrace."
    Mayweather is likely to fight on May 3, while Khan could be left fighting a Plan B opponent.

     
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  17. Steve Huff

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    Plus, you have no real champion. You have an IBF, WBO, Intercontinental Boxing Association, plus many more. Each has slightly different rules, and most have different champions at each weight. Promoters don't want any unification because it's easier for them to get a "champion" to fight, which draws bigger crowds.
     
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  18. SFrazeur

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    From the very start. It's brutal and dangerous. They should ban the use of gloves.
     
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    Just like music and art and stuff we had a better roster back in the day..coming out of the 60/70s ..
    Its the society and economy or lack of it.
     
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    Mayweather is an admitted coward who even said on national TV he won't fight Pacquiao because he fears for his health and fears ending up like Ali. Khan obviously strikes fear in Floyd with his long arms, handspeed and good punch. For Floyd to say Khan can't trash talk him because it's disrespectful further reveals his cowardice.

    Floyd always trash talks other fighters he can dish it out but can't take it.

    Floyd is a completely controlled protected fixed WWE fighter, it could not be any more obvious at this point.
     
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  21. chrischris

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    Whats the actual point of pro boxing? what feeds the 'need' for it?
     
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