What's a good net percentage?

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  1. slowfox

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    At least 6 out of 10 approaches won?
    Comments from experienced net players welcome. Thanks.
     
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  2. Fintft

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    I'm not experienced but I also look (besides percentages) at:

    a) If I can get to the net fast enough (hey even shoes like GR5s help lol).

    b) If I can handle lobs and overheads? It's not only about volleys.

    c) Does it make sense to use it at least as a variation? That's my current level of net play, btw.
     
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  3. dominikk1985

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    any percentage that is better than your baseline won percentage:). if you win 7 out of 10 points going for an offensive baseline shot but 6 out of 10 with the net approach the approaching doesn't benefit you.

    and of course it must be over 50% because you need to win more than 50% of points to win a match.

    but this is just theory if the opponent plays better you will lose more net points of course.
     
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  4. Bobby Jr

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    This ^.

    This is why sometimes a pro's net percentage is deceptive. The total number points won - and when they're won (how crucial the point is) - is important, but so too is whether they're actually better off for coming into the net compared to staying on the baseline.

    For a rec player it's also worth considering the compounding effect of staying on the baseline in terms of exhaustion. If you are prone to tiredness or playing someone who will gain the upper hand later in matches by running you around then learning how to shorten points could be a huge bonus, and coming into the net is a guaranteed way to shorten points.
     
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  5. North

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    For me it is 2/3rds. If I win 2/3 of the points where I come to the net, I will win the match. That is 2/3 of the points, not winners on 2/3 of the individual volleys themselves. So, it's a little over 6 out of 10. And it is over the course of the whole match. My experience has been that my net play just gets better as the match goes on and my opponents' passing shots get worse. Just what I've found. Those forays to the net include S&V (my favourite :)), chip & charge on ros, and coming in behind approach shots during points - all of which is my preferred way to play.
     
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  6. HughJars

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    I attack the net as often as I can - sure my net percentage might not be huge (probably around 50%) but at my level when an opponent sees you charging the net at the corner of their eye they very often tend to make a lot of 'unforced' errors...if you know what I mean?
     
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    Yep. That's why I don't just think of it in terms of how good my volleys are. Even though my volleys are pretty good, I know I also win points with mediocre volleys because the approach is good and the opponent feels rushed and flustered with me repeatedly coming in.
     
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  8. Topspin Shot

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    You should come to net more if coming to net more will help you win the match. You should come to net less if coming to net less will help you win the match.
     
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  9. LeeD

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    10 net rush's? Against a peer, usually a league 4.0 player.
    4, I win the point.
    3, opponent wins the point. Win meaning a winner shot.
    1, dumb mistake by me.
    1, dumb mistake by him.
    1, the deciding factor, who is dumber?
     
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  10. LuckyR

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    It depends. In Club play, late in a set, a single break can lead to winning the set. Since you only need one break, if you win two quick net points in a return game, it can mean the match. Thus the overall percentage can be very misleading.

    A large part of matchplay prowess is realizing that there are more and less important points in a game and in a match. You don't want to exploit a discovered weakness every single point, you want to save it up for the important points, so you win the match. If you exploit a weakness every single point, at the end of the match, it will no longer be a weakness.
     
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  11. Topspin Shot

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    Not sure about this. For instance, if I discover my opponent has a weak backhand, you'd better believe I'm going to be attacking it incessantly from the get-go. I don't think my hitting to his backhand repeatedly over the course of one match will miraculously fix his woes off that side. If he finds a way to run around his backhand, I'll figure out a way to stop him from doing it. Waiting for a big point to exploit that backhand may cost me numerous points in the meantime and might even prevent me from getting into a good rhythm attacking his backhand.
     
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  12. LeeD

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    Could go both ways here...
    Remember, we have to consider the opponent as a PEER, not a rummy, not a punching bag, not a rag doll.
    And if he's a peer, he can hide his weakness with lobs, with slice angles, with slow deep shots, and with heavy spin hard to volley "pass" attempts.
    Now if you can crush him 2's, he's not a peer and not anything worth thinking about.
     
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  13. downdaline

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    Net percentages are just stats, you have to take into account the type of volleys you're hitting too.

    If someone keeps floating the ball back and you only win 6 out of 10 approaches, then that's not good.

    If your opponent is a master of passing shots and you win 6 out 10 approaches, then that's pretty damn good.

    Don't focus solely on the net percentages, focus on the quality of your volleys. That's more important I think.
     
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  14. Topslice

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    What if I told you you were wrong?
     
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  15. LuckyR

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    If tennis matchplay strategy is boiling down to "hit it to the backhand", that is a level of matchplay that I am NOT addressing. I assumed the OP was also addressing a vastly different level of play as well.
     
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