What's my rating? (Video of practice session)

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  1. ilovetennis212

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  2. ilovetennis212

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    Please comment on my forehand too.
     
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  3. Gut4Tennis

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    looks good

    serve is a 4.0-4.3 serve. you need to let the follow through finish across your body. relax the grip man

    im guessing your backhand is non existent so 3.0 backhand unless you can show what ya got

    3.5 -4.5 forehand . The hitting with the guy was good, but then the ball machine you had zero knee bend from looking at the level of your head. just my obsevation

    you are fit and have good racquet head speed, but lack the basic athletic knee bend that a 4.5 might have.

    keep working hard and you will improve. overall i would say you're a 4.0 knocking on the 4.5 door

    good luck
     
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  4. newpball

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    Only after the elbow is up should the racket have started from the back scratch position.

    This picture shows the moment the elbow is up but the racket is already halfway:

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    You want this:

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  5. ilovetennis212

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    Thank you for the comment man.

    1. I need to Finish serve motion across my body.
    2. I need to relax the grip.
    "During the entire serve motion?" Or
    "Before and after the contact?"
    3. I need to bend my knee.
    I didn't know I was so stiff. I must fix this.

    I will record my backhand and put it up.
     
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  6. ilovetennis212

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    Thank you for the image correction man.

    I need to accelerate the swing after enough racquet head drop.
    Is there specific practice way to get full drop motion? Or I just need to be aware myself to do it?
     
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  7. dirtballer

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    We really need to see your backhand and volley to give a good rating estimate.
     
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  8. josofo

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    i cant really tell from the video, but i would reccomend you start atleast at 4.0.
     
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    Beautiful strokes and serve. Easy 4.0 around here!
     
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    I think that it is hard to rate above 4.0 in the men's game unless there is real match play or real results. The differences in play above 4.0 are minute but make a world of difference in winning. So I say 4.0 and see how you do. Plus in some parts of the country, 5.0 includes older former circuit players, tennis pros, and former NCAA div I stars.

    Like what the others said, this is based on what we see. If your backhand or volleys are horrible, then that drops you to 3.0-3.5.
     
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  11. spinorama

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    Rising 3.5
     
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    Man, you've got a really live arm!
     
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    If you had captured the immediately preceding image, it would show a better position. His elbow is in virtually the same position and the reacquet head is pointed down. I think your observation is somewhat valid. His elbow probably could be a little higher and he could lag the racquet a little better, but it isn't as bad as the frame you showed.
     
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    The other observation I have is that he keeps the face open throughout his FH. This seems to be common among people who post videos of their FHs. I don't know if they're being taught this or if it just happens.

    You can certainly play like this, but you are not hitting your FH the way Fed and Rafa or any other top male player does. They have the face of the racquet facing the ground before they start forward, then they let inertia and a loose wrist create a severely extended and pronated wrist.

    I know that some teachers like John Yandell think this move is problematic for rec players, but it is the signature move for the modern FH.
     
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  15. ilovetennis212

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    Thank you but I need to lag the racquet better right?
     
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    Here is the whole sequence:

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  17. ilovetennis212

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    Double post. Deleted.
     
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  18. ATP100

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    Stop hitting the net......
     
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  19. ilovetennis212

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    Thank you.
    I couldn't upload the image.
    I think Tweeter doesn't support to publish pictures or I don't know how to do it.
     
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    looks like 4.0 to me, unless your backhand sucks!

    I think anyone saying 3.5 is way off base ... that's not a 3.5 serve or forehand.
     
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  21. ilovetennis212

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    I'm actually trying to keep my head still to the ball when contact is made.
    Thank you for your concern..
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  22. ilovetennis212

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    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1377416579150469&l=0ba22022f9
    Check this image..
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1377416579150469&l=0ba22022f9
     
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  23. ilovetennis212

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    I'm sorry?
    I don't quite understand what you meant.
     
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    4.0 for sure, but I see definite signs of 4.5 talent. Good balance, nice timing, and smooth effort. For a compact guy, you generate nice power on serve and FH.
     
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  25. ilovetennis212

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    Here's my backhand and volley.
    I'm partnering with my wife.
    I can hit harder backhand than the video you see but one of the opponent was old man and we were playing for fun.
    There was no volley with conventional good form but I take a lot of points from poaching volley so...http://youtu.be/hfxfVqos6tE
     
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  26. RetroSpin

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    I did notice that you are watchng the ball at impact, which is very good. Your impact position looks very good actually.
     
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  27. ilovetennis212

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    My arms are much shorter than my 5'9" height.
    Do u have any advise for man with short arms?
    My short arms can't generate enough power as I always think...
     
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  28. ilovetennis212

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    I hope you don't think my backhand is so bad in the video I upload again..
     
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    your wife is rather good as well.

    yeah i think you are a 4.0, now after watching that video.

    but like what other said with a lot of potential to improve to 4.5.
     
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    Yes google Feel Tennis. there is a very good video that explains how to do this properly.
     
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    Agreed. A solid 4.0 tending strongly toward 4.5. Depending on what the entire game looks like, maybe there now. Hard to say based on limited info.
     
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    A bit hard to see your backhands, but it appears that you are hitting more off your back foot on that side. You're getting away with it based on good athletic talent, but the lack of penetration and drive will hold you back eventually. At more serious levels, guys will feed that side, then rush the net.
     
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    3.5 - 4.0 in Norcal. but you won't win much as a 3.5
     
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  34. ilovetennis212

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    I see. I need to
    1. Hit it with front foot. Run and prepare early.
    2. Have good Penetration. Sharpen my shots
     
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  35. ilovetennis212

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    In north California?
    There are many good players?
    Not so much here in Dover, Clarksville in TN.
    We don't even have usta tournament here.
     
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  36. ATP100

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    When you are practicing with the ball machine, stop hitting
    the net on your side with the tennis balls.
     
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  37. DakotaM

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    I play a lot of league matches around Knoxville, and you would easily play with 4.0 players around here, in my opinion.
     
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    Oh.. You saw the balls are there in the net area. :) you got me man!!
     
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  39. ilovetennis212

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    Do you guys have tourneys on Friday always?
    You don't have tourney on Sunday? I wish i could play in Knoxville if its Sunday.
     
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  40. Mikeplaystenniss

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    I agree with 4.0
     
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  41. brokenRPM

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    because of the bad economy, lots of guys and gals play tons of tennis, every day! the tennis scene is tough out here. u can be a highly recruited 3.0.

    But you can also beat some 4.0s out here that are no good.
     
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  42. ilovetennis212

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    You meant they don't have a job during the day so they can play during the day?
     
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  43. HughJars

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    You have dependable strokes, including directional control and depth on both forehand and backhand sides on moderate-paced shots. You can use lobs, overheads, approach shots and volleys with some success and occasionally force errors when serving. Rallies may be lost due to impatience. Teamwork in doubles is evident.


    Cant make a conclusive call on your rating without seeing how you play with your backhand more. From what I saw it looked a little shaky. No evidence of approach shots, lobs etc either.

    Nice first serve though, and forehands look ok. But we have only seen them at waist height. But how do you go placing them where you want in a game siutation? Dont know if we have enough to make a call on your rating from what we have.
     
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  44. ilovetennis212

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    Some of TT viewer told me that my arm slaps too much.
    Can anybody explain me easily so I can fix my swing.
     
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  45. ilovetennis212

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    Here's some doubles game.
    I'm the guy with blue top.
    I cut out boring service faults and unforced errors.
    Feel free to say anything. But please explain...

    There's the quickest reflection volley to protect my Balls! :) :) :0http://youtu.be/D1gLVuL_XDM
     
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    On behalf of Club Chopin, I'd like to welcome you to our Boards.

    I wouldn't worry much about the NTRP ratings--they're somewhat malleable--and with match play at various levels, you'll get a sense of where you fit in. As at least one poster has indicated, it's difficult to give someone an exact rating based on a video. There are 4.5-5.0 players with ugly strokes and unorthodox technique, but they end up producing a ball that works for them.

    I've hit with players in warm-ups before where the opponent is essentially as consistent as me and the common observer or even mt opponent might believe a close match is in store. Yet, I've won some of these matches only losing a game or two. The better the player, the more control s/he'll have over the ball. Good players also often have the ability to take charge of a point with a single shot.

    How long have you been playing?

    Best,
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    P.S. During changeovers, listen to the sound of a Chopin piece blowing in the breeze.
     
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  47. ilovetennis212

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    So true.
    There's guy who have a good forehand form and he can hit really hard.
    But single game against him I always beat him like 6:2 unless I want him to win for his sake...

    I've been playing 4years.
    3-6 hours a week sometimes 10hours a week.
     
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  48. ilovetennis212

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    Usually I love to approach to net ASAP when the ball is in play but i don't approach to net when my wife is also in the net area. Because if we both do volley the guys against us hit it hard and directly to my wife. Since me and wife win the match 7 out of 10 times we can't complain the body shot.
    Lob shot is the most weakest part of me since I spend most of the time in net area in 4years.
    My drop shot is the best out of 9players here for sure.
    I can smash the ball and I do backhand smash when it's necessary.
    For first serve, I like to hit it to opponents backhand as much as I can. But if I see opponent try to hit with forehand my first kick serve I serve out wide with side spin.
    For second serve, I know how to kick it but I have to work a lot with my 2nd serve.
    Thank you for watching my game.
    I put up doubles game you can find it if you scroll up.
     
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    I see, well I hope you'll consider joining Club Chopin...
     
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    yes, and also around sacramento, you have a lot of ex-gov employees who retired at 50 and are collecting fat pensions and current ones that don't do much work. they are all really good at tennis too.
     
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