What's Simon's racquet?

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  1. AlpineCadet

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    He's using the I.Prestige MP, just like Gulbis. Check out his CAPs.
     
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  2. vsbabolat

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    It's says PT57A in the throat. You can't always go by grommets....

    Check out the throat of Marc Gicquel's racquet he uses the PT57A with traditional grommets instead of C.A.P. Grommets.
    Photo By Fede
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  3. maratsafin5

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    Documented...and to respond to your stupid comment, how could you tell I do not know what pro's use? Are you pyshco? Sorry I didn't follow racquets in the 90's when I was just growing up. And I guarantee you I know as much about the pro's than anybody on these forums, that simple.
     
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  4. Cup8489

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    hollow guarantee's dont mean anything at all.
    how does my comment make me psychotic in any way? are you sure you even know the general definition of psychotic, because me answering a redundant question posed by you is certainly not in the realm of psychosis.

    and you don't need to apologize for the 90's racquet comment, i was too young to recall, but from being on these forums i've gleaned alot of information regarding how to discern which frames are what.

    and it's impressive you're a 5.5, kudos for that. but i know a 5.0 who uses a Prince Triple Threat Scream with luxilon, because he doesnt nkow much of anything about racquets, strings, or tennis equipment in general, so just being a great tennis player doesn't automatically mean you know everything about the sport.

    same can be said vice versa, IE i am only a decent player, but i know an awful lot about equipment, and can give generally good advice regarding it, even though my own game suggests i wouldnt know much.

    and the reason for my hostile remarks were that you were being overly aggressive in your previous statements, something that doesn't need to be done here.

    which is why i said you were ignorant. ignorant of the etiquette that should be displayed by a new user on the board.
     
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  5. HEAD/PRINCE RULE

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    Another expert :roll:
    documented i doubt, mainly because this is the Internet and guess what
    now i'm a 5.5 now a 6.0 and now I'm a expert on the pros and can match anyone

    But then again i could very well be wrong but people's words don't count for much on the web
     
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    ???? posts like this make me more and more convinced you are just trolling. head still has a manufacturing plant in Austria which makes all the racquets used by the pro players. that includes racquets based on molds which have been discontinued for retail sale such as the PT630. That's why all the pros who use this frame under their paintjobs (safin, simon, clement, etc) still have racquets to play with. do you think they are buying them used off of fleabay or something?
     
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  7. maratsafin5

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    Can somebody please post picks of this PT 630?
     
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  8. Fedace

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    then can i see the actual PT630 without the PJ ??? also do you have the picture of the mold for PT630???
     
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    Here are some pics i hope you guys can see them
     
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  10. maratsafin5

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    So he's using a little baby racket made in the 90s in Austria over Head's new technology? Smooth move
     
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  11. niktub

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    marat and fedace
    how old are you?
     
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  12. Dreamer

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    Apparently. He's ranked 7th in the world while your only claim to fame is a small box of text, you wrote yourself, about being 5.5.
     
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  13. AlpineCadet

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    Where did you find these photo's? How about a direct link please.

    (Please don't tell me that we're going to label Simon's frame under the "PT630" paint job...)
     
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  14. nikosrf

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    there are 5 digits, so for sure aren't TGK 238 or something like that
     
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  15. Fedace

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    it is futile to try to attepmt to find out what racket it is from the codes on the frame. actual material of the racket is Microgel. but maybe they use the mold for the whatever.
     
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  16. vsbabolat

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    I got them off of sports.yahoo.com/ten. Don't think those photos are up on that site anymore. If you blow up the photos you can see that it says "PT57A".
     
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  17. vsbabolat

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  18. AlpineCadet

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    Anyone with photoshop can do what they will with their photos though.
     
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  19. vsbabolat

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    I don't have and I don't know how to use photoshop.
    I am sure if you look on Getty Images you will find the photos. I have found the photos on sports.yahoo.com/ten not to have a watermark and be sharper.

    Here is Arnaud Clement with the PT57A (Pro Tour 630).

    Check out the throat.
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  20. Raiha

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    So you're saying the code is the mold but the material of the frame is microgel. I guess that's possible but there's no real way to know what its made of.
     
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  21. Quikj

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    I have a LM PJ PT57A and it is a Pro Tour 630. Simon's stick looks just like mine, save the different CAP. From the dimples in the throat and the shape of the beam I'd conclude that they were the same frame.
     
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    Is it a Microgel Radical Prestige?
     
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  23. julianoz

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    did we decide anything on simon racket length. It looks obvious that clemaunt has an extended version
     
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  24. gymrat76

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    yes, does simon use an extended length or std pt630?
     
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    bump 8 char
     
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    Sorry to bump this, but I just laughed about as hard as I ever have in my life.
     
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  27. OliverSimon

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    No hes using the I prestige you can tell by the CAps
     
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  28. NickC

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    Nope, just the i.Prestige CAPs, not the actual frame. His real frame (as other posters who have a great deal of credibility have also said) is a PT630.


    (1k posts, baby!)
     
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  29. OliverSimon

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    On the other post some people say its an iPrestige.
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=258658&page=1

    Gratz on 1000 posts
     
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  30. vsbabolat

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    Simon uses the PT57A.
    The PT57A is the Pro room version of the consumer Pro Tour 630.
     
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    gymrat can you provide any information on the shape of the grip of Simons racquet...Is he using the conventional rectangular Head pallet or a more square moulded grip like Djokovic and Murray??.
     
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    its a pt57a
     
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  33. BigServer1

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    That's the reaction I had too.

    I wonder if Fedace is available for parties...
     
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  35. Eiffel59

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    PT57A with i.prestige CAP, same racquet as Simone Bolelli
     
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    anything on the length of the frame yet?
     
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    Coming in a bit late on this,but first had to send some "smelling salts" to fedace and marat to wake them up.It's obvious to most with half a brain that Simon uses a PT630.Glad to see that Bolelli,Clement and Giquel also use the Pt630.Anyone perhaps know of other atp pro's that use the pt630?
     
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    Well frankly, shape-wise, I can't tell any difference from other Head racquets. Seems to be the same. Although for some reason I am not very sensitive to grip shapes, unless it is too obvious such as a Volkl grip or more rounded Wilsons. I also have a stock PT630, didn't play them side by side but the grips to me feel the same. Also have a PT10 coded FXP pj'ed PC600, and the grip also is the same on that. (Note: the Simon racquet I have is also the previous FXP pj, not the new MG) Both these pro racquets have a black head sticker in butt cap and also you can see the bumpy pin, wherein they fill with silicone, I think.

    It is a PT57. So it is a PT630 under pj. But it does play VERY different than the stock PT630. As a matter of fact, I just a few days ago, (FIRST time I am finding the time to try this racquet since I bought it 4-5 months ago!!! I know, I suck!) Decided to spend the money for this racquet's sake and had it strung w/ VS Touch 16 / Alu Rough, and it just plays wonderful :) (they didnt have intellitour at the stringer or else id have tried that for the fun of it) Although it says PT57A in throat, it IS a different racquet than a PT630. It is MORE maneuverable, even though it has layers of lead under the bumper. So this shows that, as Vsbabolat mentioned once, Head manufactures these racquets at a much lesser weight for their pros, so more room for customization.

    If I like it enough, I am thinking if I could get a lighter Head racquet, and customize it to same weight/balance. Because chances of finding another Simon racq. is slim to none :) Unless there is a miracle that I start playing 10x better and Head sponsors me, and that I receive a big box full of racquets from Kennelbach, Austria :) lol day-dreaming again...
     
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  39. gymrat76

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    Correcto! :)
    Though, even though the racquet I have is in perfect shape, the grommets & bumper were kinda messed up. (also, there was some sand in the racquet, dont know from where, maybe french open?:) I could not find another i.prestige cap and put the same bumper/grommet set as my pt630..i think it was tk57a on top of my head...longer grommet and the racquet is super solid.
     
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  40. hsv91

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    Hello,

    which racquet(PJ?), string and tension play Simon actually (French Open, Mercedes Cup)?

    Thanks
     
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  41. PED

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    It's a PT57a which you can see from above is basically a pt630 that's pj'ed to look like the MG Prestige and he plays with Head Intellitour strings strung at 25/24 kilos.
     
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    Read the thread.
     
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  43. hsv91

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    Ok, he uses also the following setup:

    Racket: Head MicroGel Prestige (98inch²)
    Grip Size: L5 - 4 5/8 Inches
    Tension: 26/25kg or 25/24?

    Please tell me which string does he use:

    1.) http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/desc...EAD-HIT16.html (Head IntelliTour 16 String)

    2.) http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageACHEAD-HIT.html (Head IntelliTour 17 String)

    Thanks
     
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  44. PED

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    I would be inclined to lean toward the 17g Intellitour as his choice.

    Also, I have no reason other than common sense, but seeing as how Simon is about my size, height wise, I find it difficult to believe that he's using a 4 5/8 grip. It's probably more like a 4 3/8, but I could be totally wrong ;)
     
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  45. Eiffel59

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    Nein, er hat nicht einmal das Setup-Nutzung...He DOES NOT, verstanden?
    His racquet is a f****n PT57A painted as a MGP MP, NOT an "official" MG Prestige...and he normally strings either 26/25 (fast surfaces) and 25/24 (clay)...

    BTW Entschuldigung, meine deutschen Schule, verwende es nicht sehr oft...Sorry for my basic german, i don't use it very often... :p
     
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  46. hsv91

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    Ok, ich weiß das er einen Head Microgel Prestige spielt als Paintjob. Meine Frage war aber ob er Head Intellitour 17(1,23mm) or Head Intellitour 16(1,30mm) spielt?
     
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  47. Eiffel59

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    Wie bereits erwähnt, spielte mit Intellitour 17 @26/25 (schnell oberflache) und 25/24 (sandplatz)...he plays with iTour 17 at the above-mentioned tensions...

    Ich hoffe, dass Ihnen <err...hope this helps :) >
     
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  48. hsv91

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    Why he play at the French Open 2009 on clay with the tension (26/25) and not 25/24?

    Look: http://www.racquettech.com/cgi/pro_logs.cgi (Scroll down and fill into his name)
     
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  49. hsv91

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    Ok, he uses the "Head Intellitour 17 (1,23mm)".

    Could you tell me which forehand grip he play (continental, western, eastern)?

    Thanks
     
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  50. PED

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    Should be semi western
     

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