What's the appeal of rap?

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  1. max

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    . . . OK. I'm missing it; what makes rap appealing.

    I'd like answers from guys under age 21. And indicate if you're from the ghetto or some tough kind of inner city neighborhood.

    What's the deal?
     
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    Rap and hip hop are my wife's favorite forms of music. Beat, energy, iconoclastic drive, fun to dance to.
     
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  3. Disgruntled Worker

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    Why don't you go to Talk Basketball and ask "What's the appeal of rock and roll?" and compare answers?
     
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    Let me guess:

    Her age is between 25-35 years old and she's outgoing?

    Is her Zodiac sign a Leo or a Sagittarius?

    Just asking. :oops:
     
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    I used to question the appeal of rap also, but came to appreciate the linguistic dexterity and rhyming skills of the performers. I'm indifferent to it as a musical form (if that is what others regard it as) but I enjoy it as a form of spoken word performance.
     
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    The cool thing about music, is that there is room for it all and it depends on your taste.

    I like:

    Yanni
    Cannibal Corpse
    Erasure
    Eazy E
    Beatles
    Pantera
    Frank Sinatra
    NWA

    to name a few
     
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  7. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    . . . OK. I'm missing it; what makes country music appealing?

    I'd like answers from guys over age 30. And indicate if you're from the farm or some rich *** neighborhood.

    What's the deal?




    See what I did there? It's a preference, no need to explain it. And that was some blatant stereotyping, you don't need to be from "ghetto or some tough kind of inner city neighborhood" to appreciate rap. It's a form of music, there's always going to be an audience.
     
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  8. Andyroddickfan

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    Ok... I'm going to guess your around 50 years old. Not super rich, but wealthy enough. Lived in the burbs all your life. You sit on your porch and yell at the kids who get their frisbee on your lawn. You like old school rock and roll. Am I missing it?
     
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    I enjoy listening to rap music, and I am certainly not from the ghetto or a tough neighborhood. I grew up listening to country, and still do like listening to it, but I also enjoy the delivery and flow of rap music. It has a kind of poetic element to it, especially good rap with a decent message (believe it or not there is a lot of positive rap and really good Christian rap if you look).
     
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    The difference between rap and other genres of music is that rap often forgoes "beauty" in favor of fun. As a classical musician, I often listen to music for beautiful melodies and harmonies, but I also love to music for the fun and the crazy sides of it. I find that a genre that can both spew hate (i.e. Shaquille O'Neal's "Kobe, Tell Me How My Ass Tastes) or entreat people to love (Tupac's Changes), is worth listening to.
     
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    I don't get it either, and I recall hearing Grandmaster Flash in the early 1980s. It wasn't all about gangster stuff back then and it was different, but to me it was like listening to a Chipmunks record in that it became quickly tiresome. I thought it would be a passing fad and was obviously wrong.

    The thing I find funny is that so many of the songs today are so outrageously obscene. It is going to be funny when the rap generation gets older and then plays the "oldies" for the kids, and they are full of constant swearing and talk about pimpin and dealing drugs.
     
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  12. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Rap gets bad press because well, I admit, the mainstream stuff is quite garbage. But if you will yourself to listen to non-mainstream stuff like:

    Nas, Common, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, just to name a few. All of these artists paint a wonderful picture and some of them are borderline poetic.

    Annnnnnnnd of course, Tupac is the greatest.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, why do you think tupac is better than jay z?
     
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    Thats a troll post right?
     
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    Everyone has different tastes.

    For me, I'm trying to figure out why country music or death metal is appealing.
     
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    Not really. I assume you've heard jay's old stuff. Presidents, you don't know, first song, etc. lyrically I think jay is the best. Plus he's been around for so long. Dominated the rap game. Money wise no one can compete.
     
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    Lecrae, Andy Mineo, Tedashii, Thi'sl, and Tripp Lee are the only rap artists I listen to. Most rap (i.e. mainstream) is all just cussing about sex, drugs, money, and drinking. I'll pass on that.
     
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    i am actually a big fan of jay z as well. rap is too generic really-it has many levels. just like rock. you can something like guns & roses, and then you have like foo fighters
     
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  19. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    When did I even say, or suggest Tupac is better than Jay Z? Read my posts carefully before you start putting words in my mouth.

    Did I even mention Jay Z?
     
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    I am under the age of 21 and i enjoy rap music. My two favorite artists are lil wayne and Drake. I like Lil Wayne because when i listen to music, i look for entertainment, and if you listen to his lyrics without taking them seriously, they are hilarious. I like Drake just because he is different from most other rappers, and i like his songs.( i don't particularly care for Started from the Bottom, though.)
     
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    I don't know about country music. But for me death metal is an extremely challenging genre to play musically. Many of the most technically proficient metal groups out there have a least a smidge of death or technical metal in them. For many, it's the challenge of appreciating the musicality that surrounds their music rather than merely dismiss it as random noise. And of course, like rap, there are varying degrees of mainstream exposure. Metallica is undoubtedly the most popular group of all time both commercially and critically. However, a lot of people despise them for "selling out" with the Black Album.
     
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    I'm with you. I couldn't believe people liked that garbage when it came out, and assumed it would all be over soon enough. I'm astounded and horrified it's still around and bigger than ever.

    It's kind of like that gangam thing never going away.

    Wow. It sounds like you know Ollinger's wife!

    How did you guess, or are you cheating?
     
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    You said: annnnnnnnd of course, tupac is the greatest.

    Which is why I asked why do you think tupac is better than jay z...
     
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    This is like arguing whether MS is better than Parkinson's disease...
     
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    Rap - not meant for people over 50.
     
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    But it seems like I was in my late 20's when it first appeared, and it was horrible then too.

    Rap makes disco look good in comparison.
     
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    Your opinion - clearly out of touch with popular culture.
     
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    True. I think the Kardashians and whatever else you kids like is awful as well.
     
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    Everyone does. That is why they are not popular anymore. Rap still is after 30 years.

    Bad comparison.
     
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    Tell me "lollipop" is not one of the catchiest songs of all time. hahaha
     
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    hip hop is art*... but has been corrupted by big corporations and music studios...

    * art /ärt/ Noun. The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination
     
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    You should listen to David Sides' piano cover of "Lollipop", it'll make you wonder why isn't it played in a classical concert!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOEUBjsZuI
     
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    Yanni?

    Please log out.
     
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    You didn't answer my question. Where you said tupac was the greatest and I asked why you think he is better than jay? Or did you just realize I didn't put words in your mouth and now your a bit embarrassed?
     
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    I don't understand why you're coming after me about this Jay Z business, I guess me saying Tupac as the greatest is an insult to you?

    Tupac had powerful lyrics delivery, his stories were powerful, often times deep and addresses the life that he's been through. Jay Z has done more for rap and hip hop in general (but who's not to say the same about Tupac had he lived as long?), but I don't care about Jay Z's lyrics. Especially not after "Watch The Throne" album, it was like 90minutes of "LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE!"

    No thanks. And I didn't care for Dead Presidents or Hard Knock Life either.

    I'm not the only one who mentioned Tupac here, shouldn't you be hunting him/her down as well?
     
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    Only coming after you because you gave me crap for asking the jay z question. Don't put words in my mouth, read more carefully. Blah blah.
     
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    Kardashian's ain't popular anymore? Says who? They seem to still be everywhere as far as I can tell (and often on the TV when my daughter or gf is watching...).
     
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    They peaked last year and are not as popular. It is fading for them as expected. Perfect example is Paris Hilton. Your Gf and daughter would have been watching her 4 years ago, and now nobody cares about her.

    Once again, no longevity, bad comparison to rap.
     
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    Gave you crap for what, I didn't even mention Jay Z in a negative way in my original post. I then ignored your comments because I didn't think it was worthwhile. Then you chased me down for an answer, yeah alright man. Sure, I gave you crap.
     
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    I'm not convinced they are fading, but maybe you've investigated the numbers and facts about this more than I have.

    Look, if you want longevity comparisons, we can go back to my illness analogies if you like. That's fine with me: AIDS and rap have both been around for a few decades and neither scourge has been eradicated yet unfortunately.
     
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    You stoop to low levels just to troll.

    I respect that.
     
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    Did we use to hang out together??? I love those guys! The rap today is silly. But hip hop was poetic justice :) I stillllll listen to it when I want real stuff. Of course I have many different tastes & styles (thank god) but never would you hear Classic Rock over hip hop in my car....lol
     
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    Thanks, kid.
     
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  44. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Yeah I especially like Lupe Fiasco, the dude paints a wonderful story with his songs. The stuff from The Cool and LASERS are awesome.
     
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    Ill being seeing that guy DJing soon.
     
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    not rap but the 20/20 experience is on my playlist now. what do you guys think
     
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    why hate? not all music is for everyone...:confused:
     
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    I'm digging it. I've been a JT fan since he decided to go solo. I'm liking the maturity this album.

    And if you can't jam to "Strawberry Bubblegum", you need to get your ears checked :)
     
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    i have to say future/love is oneof my fav cds of ALL time and i prefer it still to the 20/20 but i will see what happens as i listen to it more. but yea its good. check it out if you havent!
     
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  50. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    It's different, can't really say one is better than another.
     
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