Whats the best rap song of all time?

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  1. UW_Husky88

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    What is the best rap song of all time and why do you think so? You can list more than one if you just can't narrow it down that far. Please don't post **** like 50 Cent or the new Kanye West and Jay-Z (although College Dropout and Reasonable Doubt and such are alright to draw from). Its not that I don't respect Kanye and such, but his new stuff will be forgotten in less than a year (his hype is already fading quickly). If you want, you can break it down into these categories and more (I'll start):

    Overall: C.R.E.A.M. ~ Wu-Tang Clan
    Lyrically: Changes ~ Tupac and most of the stuff by Nas (his old stuff)
    Flow: The World is Yours ~ Nas
    Production: C.R.E.A.M ~ Wu-Tang Clan
    Club Song: too close of a call. I really like Timbaland's The Way I Are Song though, but I don't really know because most of this stuff is garbage nowadays.

    The reason why I think C.R.E.A.M is so good is because it is incredible, although not a sure fire best in every aspect except production (IMO), it is so exceptional in every possible way that it is an amazing song. The lyrics are very deep and meaningful, the production is awesome because its a different style than much of the other rap out there (even the other stuff on their CD), which appeals to some, and it has killer bass which appeals to others, RZA and Inspectah Deck have amazing flow, and thus its just incredible.

    Now its your turn.
     
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    You can't ask "Whats the best rap song of all time" and then say "Oh and you can't say Kanye, 50, .... etc." and then give your opinion.

    What if I said, I think Kanye West's "Stronger" is the best song of all time. Some of 50's songs follow closely. Oh and don't post garbage like Wu-Tang Clan or Tupac (total plagarist) or Timbaland (fading and will be forgotten soon)
     
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  4. topspin_17

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    rappers delight - sugarhill gang
     
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  5. Klatu Verata Necktie

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    Good call. My vote goes to "Paul Revere" by the Beastie Boys.
     
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    gangsta's paradise
     
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  7. tricky

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    You other brothers can't deny that this is maybe the most famous rap song ever. :D

    I'm going to say Eric B for President, since it has the quessential line of being a MC "I never let the mic magnetize me no more."

    Production: Public Enemy (Fear of a Black Planet), Beastie Boys/Dust Brothers (Paul's Boutique), Premier

    Flow: Rakim, Pac (not great technically, but just very emotional)

    Best Wu Tang Member: Ghostface Killa or GZA.

    Lyrics (Non-backpacker): Anything from lllmatic

    Lyrics (Backpacker): Aesop Rock.

    Greatest Hip-hop Album of All Time: Duh. It's To The Extreme. Word to the Ice, yo.
     
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  8. ewcrider

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    hmm this is tough one. Here are some that are up on my list.

    Immortal Technique - Dance with the Devil
    Guru - Sights in the City
    Sweatshop Union - Stolen Memories
    Aceyalone - Everything Changes
    Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five - The Message
    Atmosphere (maybe?) - Anything is Everything
    Atmosphere - Like Today
     
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    So watcha sayin EMPD
     
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  10. UW_Husky88

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    First of all, if you said that, I would say that you are a poser who has no idea what real rap is. Second of all, thanks for your very important post, but if you don't like this thread, feel free not to discuss.

    K thanks
     
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    No I love this thread as I am a mainstream rapper in training.

    I just didn't like your approach to asking the question.

    K thanks
     
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    I'm not sure if that's even the best song in 36 Chambers.

    Not really sure but I'm just going to answer out my ***:
    Production: The Chronic
    Flow: Rakim, Tupac, Biggie, DMX, Treach, Big Daddy Kane (honorable mentions to Sadat X, Too Short, Ahmad)
    Best Wu Tang Member: ODB, a true rock star
    Overall: tough one... Nothing But A G Thing, The Show, I Get Around, Big Poppa, Scenario, Children's Story,
    Lyrically: Nas, Eminem, Digable Planets, Tupac,
    Flow: Juicy, Hit Em Up, Microphone Fiend

    I don't know.
     
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    Man, you guys must be young. I've never heard of most of these people.

    I'll take NWA: Straight Outta Compton or F the Police.

    Both bad to the bone, hard, old school rap. Back when Ice Cube was a monster on the mic, and Easy E was still breathing. It's the angriest music I've ever heard, and was great to get pumped up when I was young and full of angst.
     
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    As others have said, you can't ask others what THEY think is best and then tell them what they can't pick. Silly....

    Wow, for someone so into rap - which centres around the interesting use of words / language - you sure managed to be as eloquent as a brick there :p

    Errr... ok.

    I'll get hammered for saying some of this, but here goes (remember, MY choices)....

    Classic: NWA did some amazing things, not very socially responsible, but yeah. Dre should get a mention in this zone too.

    Body of work: Eminem. Why? Because, in a way i've seen no other artist do, he realised his need to be socially responsible, and went full circle. He's also produced and assisted many current-day rappers. He managed to go commercial with stuff no-one else did, and then slowly cleaned up his act throughout his career.

    Yay for them: Vanilla, Hammer, Snow etc etc - the guys that have had some silly short-term commercial success, and that broadened the scope of an art form that I appreciate, and that may have otherwise marginalised itself into a corner.
     
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    Public Enemy - He Got Game

    Thread Over.
     
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    just a few of my favourites (albums, that is):

    Black Star – Talib Kweli & Mos Def Are Black Star
    Nas – Illmatic
    Eric B. and Rakim – Paid in Full
    Public Enemy – It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
    A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory
    Common – Like Water for Chocolate
    Mos Def – Black on Both Sides
    Digable Planets - Blowout Comb
    The Roots - Things Fall Apart
    Talib Kweli – Reflection Eternal
    Wu-Tang Clan – Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
     
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  18. chroix

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    BDP & KRS ONE in every category. Yeah I'm old and all that but his lyrics, delivery and style are still the best. No one has ever surpassed the Blastmaster.
     
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    Ahmish Paradise, Wierd Al Yancovic. Booyah!
     
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