What's the lowest tension you've strung at and been able to actually play?

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  1. TalkingTennis91

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    I mean you people, personally. What's the lowest string tension you've ever played with? The highest? What was/were it/they like?
     
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  2. vkartikv

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    lowest - 55 on my pc 600s. Highest - 66 on my prostaff mids - loved it. now im at 56 on my dnx 10 mps. The dnx 10 is here to stay.

    p.s. pros might be able to play at the 40 lbs level but none of us here are pros.
     
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  3. jackson vile

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    55 lmp+ tonic16g

    Highest 58lbs hammer crap 18g PC600 (big mistake, I did not string it though)
     
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  4. jj300

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    I routinley play at below 50lbs. One of the better players at the d1 level here uses gut/poly at 45lbs.
     
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    Lowest I've played was 52. When I had 52 lbs of tension, I was a newbie so it was hard for me to control the ball directionwise, but it was really easy to keep the ball deep.

    Highest I've played is 62 (currently). It feels like I get more spin with higher tensions compared to my tension two months ago (58), then a month ago (60-but I didn't feel any difference from 60 to 62 tension). I'm having trouble with keeping the ball very deep on my backhands (compared to 58 lbs), but I can create more angles on matches.
     
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  6. looseswing

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    Lowest I played was 52, but I am sure the string lost a lot of tension because it was luxilon big banger alu rough and had it in for three weeks of playing every day.
     
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  7. federermcenroeagassi

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    low 40's.......... lol
     
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  8. th____44

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    lower tension i've strung....44 lbs....
    lower tension i've play....probably about 30 lbs (due to tension loss)
     
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  9. TonyB

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    I strung my Yonex RQ-120 with Gosen OG Sheep Micro 17g at 40 lb. mains and 38 lb. crosses.

    It played fine. I felt that I couldn't swing out as much as I was accustomed to, so I cut out the strings. But if I felt like changing my strokes a little bit, I could have continued using that setup.

    Volleys were amazing. I could just stick my racquet out and get decent pace. Serves were good. Spin generation was good.

    All in all, I liked it. But I always felt that I was on "the edge" when I tried to really hit hard.
     
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  10. alu16L

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    There is a player on tour who strings his midsize racket at 34 lbs.
     
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    I LOVE 56/54 or lower in my mids.
     
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  12. Dashbarr

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    never had a raquet strung under 55. 60 is my current tension, and also my highest to date. i think ill try 63 on my next one.
     
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  13. Ash Doyle

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    The lowest I've strung is 51 pounds in a ProStaff 6.1 classic. Control really isn't an issue. That is getting highly overstated here.

    The highest I ever strung with was 67 pounds in a Prince Original Graphite mid. That was a control issue. Trying to maintain good depth was not easy.
     
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  14. nViATi

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    43 lbs full poly in a LM Prestige MP
    For the first 30 minutes it was sure sweet for spin but after that.. well.. it was worthless :lol:
     
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  15. bcsax123

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    Lowest: 56 on my Prestige 98. Feels nice, reat control, but still plenty of POP.
    Highest: 78 on my POG OS: Strings broke while stringing.

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    Highest: 67 POG OS, felt like it had the power of a PS 85 but felt super boardy. Really no control at all.
     
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  16. abenguyen

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    lowest:56lbs on a cheap head racquet
    highest:64lbs on a $50 prince racquet from academy
     
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  17. psp2

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    46/48 gut/poly hybrid on midsize frames.
     
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    You should have included in your question what type of string you're interested in... Right now, I'm using full SPPP at 48/46 and loving it.
     
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    44lbs on a ps85. I play between 45 and 50 on all frames, tried 40, didnt work. Use cheap synthgut. Hate poly, like multi, but too powerful and mushy after a while.
     
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  20. LttlElvis

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    In high school and college, I used a Prince Pro and a POG @ 80 lbs. Now I use a Prince Hybrid Shark @ 48 lbs.
     
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    54 Klip Legend, Gosen Sheep, Lux BB Alu etc. on a Fischer MSpeed 98". For some reason, 54 is my magic number with the frame. I consistantly string my racquet there and control is not an issue at all.
     
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  22. jmverdugo

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    Highest: 62 on a TT POG with synt. gut, lowest & current: 55 on a hybrid shark with full poly (pro hurricane), and i really like how it plays. I know a local pro that uses 31lb on a babolat aeropro drive full poly, that is the lowest tension that I know (as a fact!) that someone has strung his racket. He doesnt use them more than a match though.
     
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  23. ShcMad

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    53/48lbs. Big Banger Original on a Liquidmetal Instinct XL. It felt very nice.
     
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  24. gsquicksilver

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    Lowest: 60 pounds on PS85

    Highest: 70 pounds on PS85

    Currently: 65 pounds on PS85
     
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  25. ceejay

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    I've once played with a broken racquet. It was so lowly strung that the strings undid themselves during the match. I could only play with half the racquet as a result.

    I managed to sneak a win with it before I went to buy a new one.
     
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  26. ChicagoJack

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    Hi talking tennis 91 ;)

    Seems to me you are searching for the point at which going too low is going to hurt you more than it will help you. In terms of measurable rebound speed - I have that answer for you, but need to go round the block a bit to make the point.

    1. If you drop a regulation ball onto a slab of concrete from a height of 100 inches, it will bounce to a height btwn 53 - 58 inches, which means the ball has lost about 45% of the stored impact energy in the collision.

    2. If you drop a wooden bocci ball ( non deformable ) onto a racquet with the head firmly clamped, the ball will rebound to about 95% of that height. This occurs regardless of string tension, material, or if the frame has been freshly strung, or sitting in the garage for years. All strings return about 95% of the bounce height, or you could say strings return about 95% of the stored impact energy. So you see - strings already work pretty well, and there is very little room for improvement ( with regard to rebound velocity ) with tension or material changes.

    3. If you want increased velocity off the string bed, you can do one of two things, make the ball harder, or the string bed softer. We don't get to veto the rules of tennis, so the only option is to make the string bed softer, so that the ball will compress less.

    4. Great plan so far, trouble is, even large drops in tension amount to suprisingly small increases in rebound velocity. If you can serve 120 MPH, and you drop the tension 10 lbs - The increase in velocity would only be a serve of 120.8 . This is an increase of less than 1%, something probably not noticeable to any player. For a groundstroke, the increase is slight larger, but even huge drops in tension rarely amount to anyting more than 1-2% more velocity.

    Point: There is a point where you start to lose more power through string elongation, than you save by reducing ball deformation. That range is somewhere in the 40's depending upon two factors:
    A - the racquet head speed of your stroke.
    B - the speed of the incoming ball from your opponent.

    I'm not making this up, can provide references if required.

    Best regards
    -Jack
     
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  27. mucat

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    40 lbs with PS85, it is more forgiven for off-center hit.
     
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    55lbs mains(hurricane)with 57 crosses on my n6.1
    much nicer than 59/61 which was my only other tension on this racquet
    on previous racquets i went as high as 63,felt crap - no spin
     
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  29. heycal

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    It hurts your arm less due to less mishits at this low tension?
     
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    i usually play with the wilson n6.1 tour i normally string with a hybrid of vs mains at 54 and alu power crosses at 50. that seems to work perfectly for me. i tried stringing full gut at 54 lbs. it was pretty much unplayable. i've even gone as low as 52 vs mains and 48 lux crosses when i play on clay during the summer. again, as long as i have a poly in the stringbed to stiffen it up it seems to work.
     
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  31. tlm

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    I have played with 45 lbs. with pacific toughgut+on a bab. pure control + it played great!
     
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    No, it didn't hurt my arm, but it did hurt my game. I don't have a strong build, so my arm can't handle too high a tension, otherwise, the depth of all my shots will suffer. I like to find the tension that I can hit as close to the baseline as possible under normal rally and also allows me to serve as close to the service line as possible. Currently, I am using tiRad OS and iRad OS, I found 59 lbs for either Radical OS is the right tension to allow me to maximize both (rally and serve).
     
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  33. heycal

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    But what were you saying about it being more forgiving on mishits? How did 40lbs tension affect your game?
     
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    Oh yes, I meant it will have a bigger sweetspot.
     
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  35. heycal

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    So is this true? That lowering tension increases the size of the sweetspot?

    And is the reason -- or one of the reasons -- that arm sufferers are advised to use lower string tensions?
     
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  36. mucat

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    My experience anyway. The lower the tension, the less energy transfer to the arm.
     
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    Who knows How Low I go!

    I string my Head Instinct FXP Team (I know its supposed to be a kids racquet but I like it) at 45 lbs with Topspin Cyber Flash 17. However, I have a terrible time tying knots because of the string stiffness and the shape of the frame. Some of the knots are so terrible I would be embarrassed if anyone saw them.
    The resulting tension is not very consistent, but it doesn't seem to bother me. Sometimes I'll kick it up to 48 to compensate, but ultimately, the string bed ends up with a tension in the low 30's no matter what I do and I still have pin-point accuracy with my wicked groundy's off both wings. You had better hope that when our paths meet in the bracket that my strings are too tight or too loose because otherwise you just won't have much of a chance.
     
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  38. mhstennis100

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    lowest is 57 with a poly, highest is 65 with a poly.
     
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  39. Sagittar

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    maybe low 40s , originally struny at 50 but string tension loss and soon changed due to loss of control
     
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  40. heycal

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    If it played great, why did you switch to a different setup?
     
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    i recently have spp hextreme at 51 lbs. on my n6.1 95. absolutley love it. great control, spin, and comfort. i'll string w/ this again.

    highest is 62 w/ nxt tour on an n5.
     
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  42. heycal

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    But what about the sweetspot? Does it really expand when you lower the tension? If so, that would cause fewer elbow-jarrring mishits, correct? Or am I misunderstanding the relationship between sweetspot and tension?
     
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  43. tlm

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    To heycal who said i did,i used tha pc with low tensions all the time.I like experimenting with different string jobs.Once i found out how good low tension played i used it a lot, but it does depend on the racquet + string.

    The pc was hard on the arm at high tensions, thats how i found how well it played at low tensions.The setup i used the most with it was nat. gut mains at 47-51 lbs.+ the x's syn. gut at 50 to 53 lbs.
     
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  44. heycal

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    Interesting to hear. I'm using full gut at 52 lbs on my Pro Kennex 5g, and I like its playbility just fine, so I was thinking of going down a couple of pounds next time I have it restrung. The goal would be to see if it still plays fine at say, 50 lbs, but also gives me increased arm protection and maybe a few less mishits, if it's really true the sweetspot would get a bit larger at a lower tension.

    Since I always string with natural gut for arm reasons, and rarely break a string, I'm cautious about experimenting with string set ups. if I don't like a set up, I can't afford to replace it immediately, and so I may be stuck with playing with it for a couple of months until it breaks even if I don't love its playability.
     
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  45. tlm

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    I know what you mean it is expensive to experiment with gut string.I would say that the sweetspot gets bigger, but the arm safety really increases with the lower tension.

    There is nothing that feels better than gut at a low tension, except uncoated gut at a low tension.The feel+comfort are unmatched, no syn. can match it.For some reason i had good luck with babolat+low tension gut, it worked on the pc+the aeropro which is really a powerful racquet.But i still had good control at 52 lbs.


    On the other hand i now have a rds 001 mp+that same low tension gut set up, turns this stick into a rocket launcher.Now the rds is more of a control racquet than the aeropro, but not at low tensions.If i was you i would drop 2lbs.+see it shouldnt change that much from the 52 you are using now.I would also tell you to use pacific toughgut in 16 g. because it is a great control gut.
     
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  46. heycal

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    Thanks. I actually use Babolat VS 16 guage, becuase it's got a good rep and it's often the only natural gut stringing places have available. I don't want to experiment with new strings that I have to send away for or whatever, so I plan to stick with this one and just become more and more familiar with it. I probably will drop a pound or two and see how it goes. But I once had a Core1 #10, a more powerful stick, and when I dropped the tension from 55 to 52 lbs, also with babolat gut, it seemed way out of control. (But then, as a rusty 3.5er, I've never been known for my pinpoint control anyway.)

    But maybe that was just that one stick, and this racket will do fine going from 52 to 50. And yeah, gut at low tension does feel great, though to tell to the truth, in my so-far brief modern tennis career, I haven't used a lot of other setups to compare it to, and have never even even hit with polysester or kevlar strings even once due to tennis elbow concerns.
     
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  47. slapshot1540

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    i strung 22 gauge badminton string at 42 i believe :)
     
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    i've played with poly hybrids in my n6-1 at high 40s-low 50s
     
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    48/50 syn gut on my ncode tour 90. lots of power but after 2-3 hrs. everything was long.
     
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    Yes, lower tension does produce a bigger sweetspot (making the whole string bed softer), I just strung my iRad OS at 61 lbs and it is more uncomfortable than before (I tried at 58, 59, 60). It also make all my shot more shallow. It seems like 59-60 is my Rad OS sweetspot...

    The way I experimented with tension is I only make 1 lbs adjustment every restring. Since you are already happy with the current playbility, try only go down 1 lbs next time instead of 2 lbs. You should be able to handle the change.

    I remember at 58 lbs with my Rad OS, my shots fly out more if my timing is off a bit and my serve was barely outside (less then 1 ft) of the serviceline more often. I think those are good indication of tension too low.

    At 59 lbs, I still hit the ball effortlessness like 58 lbs but my flyout error decrease.

    At 60 lbs, I can hit the ball a lot harder more often, however, my topspin serve was less effective than before.
     
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