What's the worst/meanest thing an opponent has to you?

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  1. 813wilson

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    So Cindy started the nicest thing thread, I looked and didn't find the meanest....

    I had a guy tell me(years ago) " you've got a nice backhand. reminds me of little sister's." He said it at the end of the match I'd won.

    I heard a guy, two months ago, tell a teammate " wow. with strokes like that you should try racquetball."
     
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    An opponent once told me: "I can't believe I lost to a hack like you, what are you doing playing at this level..."

    Kinda nice little statement after I wiped the court with him, it was all HIS fault, I had nothing to do with it ;)
     
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  3. Cindysphinx

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    Ho boy. I don't know if this was the meanest thing, but here it goes.

    I played an important 3.5 match recently, and the team really needed the win. From the get-go, I couldn't do a single thing right. Kept missing easy volleys. Easy service returns. Easy everything. Couldn't serve. I was just off. We lost in straight sets.

    After the match, one opponent said something like, "You know, the reason we won is because you guys made too many mistakes."

    Uh, yeah. Right. I know. I was *there.* I was the one making the mistakes, remember?

    If you beat somebody, there's no need to tell them why, especially if it's obvious.
     
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  4. Geezer Guy

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    Early in my tennis career (I was in my very early 40's) I played a guy in a league match that was over 60. He had good strokes and had obviously been playing a long time. The ONLY thing I had going for me is that I could run down most everything he could hit, and poke it back. A true pusher if there ever was one. I won, but it was ugly of course. After the match he said "You know, I hate playing guys like you."

    Now some guys will say that and mean it as a compliment. This guys didn't. He was a true A-hole.
     
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  5. jc4.0

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    Who'd have thought...

    Weirdly, I can't think of anything any one has ever said to me that really hurt my feelings. I've had arguments over line calls or rules, but those were so brief not worth a mention. Most of the people I play with feel like I do, that a morning playing tennis is better than a morning doing almost anything else - especially going to work!!!
     
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  6. vandre

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    this didn't happen to me, but...

    ...i talked to a pro at the racquet club my wife and i went to on vacation, who told me this story. some of the details have been changed to protect the innocent...

    a former div I and professed 5.0 came to the racquet club on vacation and signed up for the game matching service. the club was unable to find any 5.0s to play this guy, so they set up a match between the visitor and jim. jim is a retired guy who plays very good tennis (the pro i talked to said he'd rate jim in the 4.0 range). so the visitor and jim have their match, and when its over, the visitor comes storming back into the pro shop at the club. some poor soul made the mistake of asking "how did your match go?" and the visitor proceeded to rip into them and start going off about "how dare you put me with him! he could return my shots! he wasn't good enough to hang with me! that was a waste of my time! i don't ever want to play with him again!" apparently, jim had beaten the guest 6-0, 6-2 or something like that and they guest was just being a butthead. the pro talked to jim later, who told the pro that jim was up 2-0 in the first set when the guest totally came unglued and started yelling and screaming at jim.

    i played jim twice while i was on vacation and he beat me 0 and 0 (i'm a 3.5 though). jim is a wall and you cannot get anything by him which makes it very frustrating to play him. we were playing har-tru, so you aren't going to hit through him. jim is a very nice guy and we always walked into the pro shop together after we played and i was shocked that someone would do this to such a nice guy!
     
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  7. Valetennis

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    Probably said smugly "We knew you could hit it hard, but you can't keep it up so we went after you the entire time."

    True enough, motivated me plenty, next match they were poaching to get AWAY from my return... if you call that poaching. I know, not nice to hit at people, but after that my consistency when I played them again was pretty good!
     
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    They were trying to be nice to you, saying that you could have played much better. If they had said "We beat you and you never made any mistakes," that would be saying they are far better than you.
     
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    This could have been a complement. Do you know who his little sister is? What if his little sister is or was on tour? :)
     
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  11. pyrokid

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    I recently played a guy on my HS team chew me out during a changeover for coming into the net. (he said that constituted old man tennis)
    I think he was just mad because he was a higher spot than me the whole season, even though I've won all my challenge matches against him, and this time the coach was watching so there was no way he wouldn't find out.
     
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    Funny story

    Injured my dominant (right) hand and could only use my left.

    I played doubles with my friend and some randoms at the court. I decided not to tell them that I'm right-handed, because I knew it would sound like I was making excuses, and I genuinely want to be good with my left. I must have looked like an idiot learning to play, my left hand is not good. My doubles partner didn't have his babolat racquet with him so he was using an old head one that I had in my car.

    One of them hit a moonball, I let it bounce and then hit an overhead smash winner. The guy that hit the moonball
    "Oh I didn't know you could do that kind of shot"​

    After our match - we lost easily with my poor hits - their chests were puffed out and they were eyeing other people on the adjacent courts. I came to the net to shake hands but one of them seemed to not think us worthy of the shake.

    When we got back to my car my doubles partner and I were in tears laughing about those guys. We knew the next people they were playing and that those guys would lose easily to the next people.

    I look forward to playing them again with my right
     
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  13. Dave M

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    That would have to be retourted with "beating you".
     
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    Yes, they were trying to be nice.

    They failed.

    Better would have been, "You hit some great shots. It was a tough match."
     
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  15. J_R_B

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    It wasn't after the match, but during a tournament match, I was playing a 14 year old kid who was yelling and carrying on saying "how are you losing to this guy, he sucks, I can't believe I'm losing to a guy this bad" and whatnot. It was really rude, but I didn't care at all. This kid had really nice strokes but he was very immature. The only way I was going to win the match was to get him to beat himself, so I was totally junkballing him trying to get him to make mistakes and by the second set, he was really coming unglued. It didn't quite work, and he pulled the match out in the 2nd set tiebreaker, but it was fun anyway. For as out of control as this kid was on the court, as soon as the match ended, he was very gracious and apologized for acting like he did. He wasn't just yelilng at me, either, he was yelling at his mom and even got into an argument with a guy on the next court. After the match, his mom was like "I can't believe you were so calm when TJ was yelling at you like that". I told her it didn't bother me and that my only chance to win was for him to lose his cool and for me not to, so it was really part of my strategy.

    I wish the kid luck in the future, but he really needs to get his emotions in check first and foremost. Of course, he's only 14, so there is plenty of time for that.
     
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  16. cghipp

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    This was probably both the nicest (by accident) and the meanest: In the middle of a 3.5 doubles match a few years ago, one of my opponents accosted me at the net after the first set. "You are going to be protested - you have no business being a 3.5!" She said a few more things as she stormed off the court to get the club pro to watch me play, to try to have me disqualified. I had a computer protected rating and would love to have been bumped up already, but I think it was probably another year or so before it actually happened. I may have also been playing 4.0 at the same time, but I seriously doubt I was winning anything. That might have been the year that I won all my 3.5 matches and lost all my 4.0 matches...

    Anyway, I am a very easygoing person on the court (too much so, often) and I just smiled at her, not realizing at first that she was actually kind of yelling at me and not trying to give me a compliment. After I figured out what was going on I went from smiling to laughing. (Her partner was SO nice, too - I felt bad for her because I think she was embarrassed.)

    My partner and I won the second set easily, and this woman was FUMING after it was over. But she talked to her pro, and apparently he told her that I was a legit 3.5. She started to calm down and engaged me in conversation. No lie, before the team match was over she had asked me to come interview for a sales job at her work!

    I still know this woman and I play on some teams with her. I'll give her this: she has the heart of a competitor. In many ways I wish I could be as focused and driven on the court as she is. But I think I have more fun doing it my way! Maybe splitting the difference would be perfect.

    I did have some very nice compliments from a couple of players after some 4.0 singles matches this past season ("You're the best player I've played against all year!") but those just made me think, "That's sweet, but you poor thing - there is not much competition in this league!" But I'll graciously accept any compliment that is well-intentioned, even if it's delusional!
     
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  17. cghipp

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    I agree - they may have meant that you had the better strokes, but beat yourselves. Or that they could not have beaten you otherwise. Maybe give them the benefit of the doubt?

    Some players are so un-self-aware (and I would include myself here) that they really might not realize their opponents hit pretty much no winners and relied instead on the players' mistakes to end the points. It can be helpful for someone to point it out. Heck, I can get halfway through the match before I realize my opponent is left-handed! Sometimes after a match, my opponent and I will talk about our various strategies during the match, and how they did or didn't work out. I think it's interesting, and it's helpful to know what my game looks like from the "outside."

    Sometimes after a loss, we might be more inclined to have a negative perception of our opponents. Of course, they could have just been jerks...
     
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    the worst --- meaning RUDEST --- thing an opponent did to me was holding up the tournament match so that he could place his mother, his brother, his uncle and his sister at points all around the court so they could doublecheck my line-calls.

    It was ridiculous. It was queer. I was in my 40s, and playing a teen. To me, it was just another match in another one of countless little tennis tournaments--who cares? To him, it must have been a major life experience. . . as serious as death.

    I don't jack with cheating and have never lied about line calls. So this felt pretty rude to me. I don't know if he actually felt I was cheating or if he was trying to intimidate me somehow. Of course, it matters not what folks outside the court see or say. . .
     
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    Once during warm up, my opponent returned every shot with a drop shot. It really pi**ed me off. I was smoking him in the match until my temper subsided.
     
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    I just remembered another one, very recent. My husband is a 3.0 player who has been playing since we started dating, but hasn't played a whole lot or taken many lessons or clinics (partly because his ACL-reconstructed knee doesn't love hard courts). So his strokes and movement can be a little erratic. What he does have, though, is amazing fitness and speed. He SHOCKS people with what he is able to track down. (I have had to stop myself more than once from congratulating an opponent on his winner, after realizing that my husband was going to track it down.) He is also all over the net. Because of his untraditional play, his movement and shots are very difficult to anticipate, both for me and for our opponents. He seems to be everywhere, which kind of gets in their heads.

    Anyway, we joined a very laid-back 7.0 mixed team this season, so we could play together and have fun without worrying about whether we won or not. Last week, after our side had several "blooper" winners that looked a little more like Jai-alai throws than tennis shots, I heard one of my opponents say to the other, "I have never had to hit so many **** shots in my life! This sucks!" I had to laugh. I'm sure I've thought that about an opponent before, but I wouldn't say it out loud on the court. I decided right then that they were going to have to go down sooner, rather than later!

    They kept hitting everything to my husband, but that cracked me up, too, because all they were doing was getting him warmed up. We ended up winning easily - even though I have a pulled stomach muscle and can hardly serve or hit an overhead. It was very satisfying!
     
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    Once during warm up, my opponent returned every shot with a drop shot. It really pi**ed me off. I was smoking him in the match until my temper subsided.
     
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    If his name was Henin then it was actually a compliment.
     
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    Or if he was playing Marat Safin.
     
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  24. Geezer Guy

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    Well, got this handed to me just last night. I don't think he was being mean on purpose. I was playing poorly & he beat me 7-6, 6-2.

    After the match he says: 'I got bumped up to 4.0 about a year and a half ago, and you're the first person I've been able to beat in singles.'
     
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  25. cghipp

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    Okay, that is a bit painful. Maybe even more so if the guy wasn't trying to be mean!
     
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    Ouch. That must have hurt.

    Well I guess you're a 4.0 so you have to pretty good and he had to win sometime so you may as well be the one.
     
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    After winning 10 straight matches during a week of our team practices, the second singles player, who established that he didn't like me, told the coach that I thought I was the best player on our team, and made me play the number 1 singles player in front of everyone, to which I proceded to lose 6-2 6-1. Then when my coach chewed me out I had to try and explain to him that I didn't say that, and he didn't believe me, so the coach actually moved my down on the team ladder. Fortunately, I won 10 strainght matches in front of the coach the following week, and I moved up to the number 9 spot on the team at the end of the year...
     
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    Another team's captain screamed at my teammate and called him a cheater several times in front of his wife and 2 young kids.
     
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    When I was in my first usta tournament I lost first round nd then came the consalation round.I was playing a guy shorter than me and anyway I forgot the score how he beat me.But it was like 1 or 2 games for the match for him and "he says is this your comeback".I said that before the match most times I comeback in the second if I lost the first set.The next few times I played him in other tournaments.He did not say anything in the other matches just he would speak through body language and actions.Every time I won a couple points he would hit his shoes,yell, and saying words under his breath.The worst things was he called my balls out when they were clearly in or too close to call out.By the way I'm not making up those calls because my mother was right there but by the rules she can not say anything and about the balls called out.I was taught that if the ball was too close to call out call it in anyway thats my story.
     
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  30. pyrokid

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    Wait, I missed a lot of that, could you rephrase it? specifically the bolded part?
     
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    The point was I said to him one game away losing the first set I said to him that I make alot of comebacks that was bold to.But he is one game away from winning the match.It was 4-1 him during the change over he said "this is your comeback"?Now thats way bolder than what I said but I will listen to you pyrokid.I said it in like friends way but I could tell he meant it all the way not in a friends tone.
     
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    Playing a practice doubles match against the biggest trash talker ever. We're on the bad end of a beat down but still talkin to my partner and keeping confidence up.

    "Whats the point of all this slapping hands and high fivin each other if you're losing?"

    We get at each other afterwards and i'm seeing if i can arrange some kind of grudge match with him and get:

    "Get at me when you're more consistent, i can't bring myself down to play guys like you."

    Always good to hear from a fellow team member...
     
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    I'm pretty sure he meant "bold" as in, the text that I highlighted in bold letters above." But your description works, too...

    Sometimes when my partner and I are way down, I'll joke that we're "ready for greatness." In other words, that we're getting ready to make a miraculous comeback. But if it's not completely obvious that you're making a joke, you're leaving yourself open to some rude comments. If I really thought I was "ready for greatness," or getting ready to make a big comeback, I would keep it to myself and concentrate on the ball!
     
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    I think that may be the meanest one yet! Although the one about the guy getting screamed at in front of his family is pretty awful, too.
     
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    I need to throw this one in....

    I used to play a league/ladder season. As always, a couple of guys take it all way too seriously. One in particular, his name will be Dick, has a really bad reputation for poor sportsmanship/etc. the rules of this league are challenge up 10 spots max. Win and take that spot. Loser moves down 1 spot. If challenged, set a match w/in 7 days time. Challenger comes to you. No shows are a default.

    So, Dick, who is #21 on the ladder, challenges up 9 spots to play, "Dave".

    They set the match and 15 minutes before the start, Dick calls Dave and says he can't make it. Dave says no worries, I'll take care of it. Dave phones in a default. No harm, no foul. Everyone stays where they are on the ladder. Side note - play once every two weeks or get bumped down 10 spots....

    So, Dick cancelled the match because he thought Dave would win his other match, thereby "jumping" even higher than his hoped 9 spots.

    Money shot - Dick sees the default score and calls Dave.
    You a**whole, you said it was okay. The next time I see you, I
    m gonna kick your a**. To which Dave says - "pick a day and a time, I'll bet you don't show up for that either." Priceless.
     
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  36. Cruzer

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    Whats the worst/meanest thing an opponent has done? After 10+ years of USTA league and tournament tennis and encountering inflated egos, blatant cheaters, and pompous jerks there are too many things to choose from to pick just one as the worst/meanest.
     
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    During a rally with a stranger who asked to play with us...

    "Come on, can't we get the ball back and forth more than 5 time sin a row?"

    Excuse me...you asked to play with us.
     
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  38. Ucantplay2much

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    Threads like this always make me appreciate how great my two-year tennis experience has been.

    The meanest thing anyone has said was "Well, I thought you weren't going to let me win any," when he won the only game he won in the match. Pretty mean, huh :)

    Try playing rec league basketball or even a pick-up game. Or road cycling, those can get fairly nasty at times. The captain of my league basketball was such a hypocritical ____-head that I came within one snide comment of committing a flagrant foul on HIM.

    He once yelled at me in the middle of a game, "That was a STUPID pass!" when I had one intercepted. He was red-faced and the veins were bulging out of his neck. Next time we had the ball, he threw up an air-ball from the three-point line that missed the rim by a good two feet.
     
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    This is a funny one...Here in Atlanta we have an Alta league with levels of AA, A,B,and C. I was playing mixed doubles with a partner who might be a 3.5 lady against a husband 4.0, and wife 4.5. The man had a very big serve and my partner could not return his serve. He of course was feeling big because he was getting so many free points. In the middle of second service game I decided to stay back on his second serve and his comment to his wife but loud enough for us to hear was that he would really crank up his serve now to further intimidate my partner. He then loudly proclaimed on a changover to his wife that playing such low competition was not fun and lets hurry and get off the court so he could get a workout in. What a jerk, and still we only lost 3 and 3.
     
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    Unfortunately we have to deal with people like that in competitive sports. What an idiot!

    This is not the meanest thing that happened to me but I used to play competitive chess when I was a teen. My opponent, an adult dressed very well in a business suit about 60 years old was losing and starting blowing smoke in my face.

    As ridiculous as it may seem it was a common practice for chessplayers who smoked. I was 15 years old, in my first tournament and I hated cigarette smoke. I did have the satisfaction of beating him. Thank goodness for non smoking laws in public areas now.
     
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  41. Cindysphinx

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    Here's a recent one.

    I was playing a tough doubles match with a partner who communicates differently than I do. If you say anything to her while she's hitting, she will miss her shot. She doesn't want me to say things like "Switch" or "you."

    Now, I try to be a good egg about this, although it is tough for me to play a match and not say anything in situations where I would normally say something. I feel like I am playing the whole match with tape over my mouth. Besides, if I say "You", it is definitely well before she is hitting. I kept count in one of our recent matches, and I said "You!" three times. So I'm doing OK, I figure.

    Anyway, we were in the middle of a point and I was at net. I was thinking of poaching, decided not to, and said, "You!" My partner, who was on her way to net, muffed her approach volley. She turned to me and put one finger over her lips: The International Signal for "Shut Up."

    I am concerned our approach to communication is going to kill this partnership.
     
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    Meanest thing my opponents have done was to beat me. They didn't let me win and I find that very rude and selfish of them.

    As I grow older, I've come to the conclusion that tennis players are getting ruder and meaner all the time. The younger generation is filled with selfish players who are selfish and beat me all the time.
     
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    Has to me? Has what?
     
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    Tonight in a flex league playoff match, after beating my higher seeded opponent in straight sets, he says "I learned a lesson tonight. Never play a playoff match after 4 beers at the bar."

    Way to steal my thunder, ahole.
     
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  45. MurrayisBEAST

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    A guy called me a smartass once o_O
     
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    Cindy, is she the type of player who doesn't need to be told which is her shot because she will get anything at anytime? And is she an active doubles player? Sometimes those kinds of players don't like the distraction of hearing someone say Yours. That in a nutshell is why I play a better singles game. :oops:
     
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    Ditto. In the 8 years I've been back playing in USTA league matches, I've yet to have anyone say anything directly to me that was even mildly offensive. And I'm definitely with JC...even a bad day on the courts is infinitely better than a good day "on the job."
     
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  48. thejuice

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    I don't know about anyone else but I don't think your opponent said anything mean. To me, what he said was a fact. If you were better that day then you would have been better and still beaten him more than likely, BUT you don't know what he felt like inside (could have had a headache or been nauseous). IMO, don't take what he said too personal. I think he was kicking himself.
     
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  49. saigonbond

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    One of my student athletes told me this after her match:
    "Coach, that girl's negative comments are more like compliments. She knew my game is superior to hers. She's just mad that I beat her in 40 minutes ."

    CHEERS!
     
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  50. SweetH2O

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    You're probably right. And a few months from now I probably won't remember it enough to have posted on this thread. He just seemed to be a sore loser like he was saying he shouldn't have lost to me except for that reason. It didn't need to be said, so why devalue the match?

    If that's the worst someone has for me, I'll be fine. Like others have said, most of my league experiences have been good, so this stuck out to me.
     
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