What's wrong with Yonex?

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  1. syke

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    Is the stock grip readily available off the shelf? They don't seem to be available on TW. Finding the exact replacement is going to be tough.
     
  2. hoodjem

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    I believe that the QC of Yonex is higher than any of the major brands.
     
  3. rdis10093

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    you can get them on the bay
     
  4. syke

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    I know it's a stereotype, but I personally believe the Germans and Japanese are leading the way in quality engineering.
     
  5. tistrapukcipeht

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    Lunch break-

    What is the difference between the Yonex but cap and others?

    I don't understand of the technicality of these subjects nor customize any racquets, but how does that influence your playing and what's the difference between a more flare one to a less flare one?

    Thanks guys.
     
  6. tistrapukcipeht

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    Just another point-

    It may be horrible to remove the grip because it's well put on with more glue by better labor at their factory :)

    To me is perfect with a super grap on the top.
     
  7. Power Player

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    My favorite handle is Wilson. Yonex is very close, but wilson has more flare to it's handle. I basically add a little flare to the yonex because in the past I have had a racquet fly out of my hand on an overhead, so I don't want to have that happen again.

    I hold the racquet pretty low and my pinky is off the grip so a little extra flare helps me.
     
  8. tistrapukcipeht

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    So the flare only help to hold the racquet better?

    I hold it pretty low to, my pinky is on the tip of grip at the very end but not off the grip.
     
  9. syke

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    Yep. I like a smaller grip size but with a more pronounced flare. Just feels more secure when serving...

    Wilson's grip shape just feels better.
     
  10. Power Player

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    Yeah and honestly it's just personal preference. The only racquet that really had no flare bugged me was Donnays. The wilson has the same shape as yonex, but the flare is bigger and the body is slimmer. so i use 1/2 inch athletic tape wrapped on flare to make it bigger. Stanny Wah Wah does the same thing on his yonexes.
     
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    off topic....but what's up with you guys and the black & white tennis chicks as your avatars?
     
  12. Boricua

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    Its kind of retro, looks pretty cool. Cant see her face well though.
     
  13. mrmo1115

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    +1 to the people who hate the replacement grips on these sticks. God awful. Not only are they thin but they are gripped with such bad grooves. I know its all about preference but I'm sure more people like a flatter grip than a "bumpy" grooved grip.
     
  14. kybb

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    Because Yonex is racket brand for... chicks:twisted:
     
  15. BigT

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    Wilson is also into baseball, football, and golf; HEAD makes skis; doesn't seem to hurt them in tennis.
     
  16. cerumo

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    Didn't Ivanovic win the French and gain the No.1 ranking after switching to Yonex?
     
  17. borgpro

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    Kraijceck did pretty well using a Yonex..
     
  18. syke

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    There were 2 no.1s that played a Yonex, Hewitt and Marcelo Rios.
     
  19. Sander001

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    What about Martina Higins? Navratilova?
     
  20. syke

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    Those ladies too...

    And I dare anyone who is man enough to tell Marcelo Rios in his face he is using a chick stick. That guy looks and probably has the demeanour of a Mexican drug lord.
     
  21. syke

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    double post...
     
  22. Meaghan

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    There's also Joachim Johannsson and his rdx500 mid, one of the hardest hitting players of all time, great attacking game. Ive played with one of his sticks and its certainly no chick stick, here he is putting 51 aces past Agassi!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiNIjvth8Qw
     
  23. Power Player

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    Did you guys just hear Gilbert? He said that a lot of chics plays yonex because it is better suited for flatter hitters. I have no idea if this is the case since I experience a lot of spin with mine..maybe he is saying this because most of the endorsed men play the tighter patterned sticks, but he said the square shape was better for flat hitting, and I am not sure if that makese sense..lol. Anyway it was interesting. He also said yonex pays a ton of cash to its players.
     
  24. Meaghan

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    Brad is well known for talking utter tripe!
     
  25. RollTrackTake

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    Yeah I heard that while I was watching. I thought his comments about Stan switching to that racquet were interesting as well. He mentioned that it took him a while to adjust to it which surprised me because I assumed he had a PJ of whatever racquet he'd been using.
     
  26. XFactorer

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    Frame shape gives it away that it's a Yonex racquet of some sort.
     
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    I thought it was interesting as well. The conversation went on to discuss poly string. Gilbert said that it was hard for a club player to really use poly. And, he said that 50 in poly was like 60 for other strings. Pretty salient stuff I thought. I've been wondering of late if I should just go back to plain old synthetic gut. :)
     
  28. Gemini

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    Yeah...Brad Gilbert talks simply to hear himself speak. The majority of what he says is garbage and his opinion of Yonex is one of those cases.

    If anything, I've found Yonex racquets enhance spin. So if female players tend to be flat hitters, then playing a Yonex would be the obvious choice because the racquet would give the potential for a greater margin for error i.e. can generate spin more easily.
     
  29. JGads

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    PP, glad you brought this up because I came here tonight specifically to ask if others had heard this and to get people's thoughts on it. Was a head-scratcher for me, too -- not because it's wrong or right, I don't know, but I wasn't sure if that was common thinking/theory with Yonex and was wondering if there was some science behind the thought, since I always kind of thought the opposite.

    But honestly, I think Yonex makes spin and flat-hitting frames now. They even say it in the names of the VCores, S for Spin, D for Drive, etc. The V95 shoots lasers, the RDIS 200 can spin the hell out of the ball. I've generally thought that Yonex frames, most of them, provide ample spin. Even the monstrous V89, with a small head and 16/20 pattern, spins the ball MUCH more so than a Prestige Mid, in my opinion. And so many Yonexes, to me, always have a certain trademark cross-court spinny forehand that just comes naturally to the frame, perhaps due to the extra real estate up at the top of the stringbed.

    Lot of good frame talk on ESPN the last few days. Would also like to find the videos Chris Fowler was talking about, he mentioned some website but I forgot the name, where someone took super duper slow-mo shots of poly string reacting to the ball vs. synthetic. Sounded like a cool watch for us nerds.

    Wawrinka played great in that first set. Tomorrow's final could be absolute gold.
     
  30. Power Player

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    Gads he was talking about John yandells site. John posts here as well.

    I am starting to think fowler does too. I think fowler is a gear nerd. I heard some serious GAS in his voice when he was talking about strings.
     
  31. sargeinaz

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    Nothing is wrong with Yonex. Theyre making some of the best frames right now.
     
  32. JGads

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    Right on.

    I love Fowler. Everyone else on here apparently hates him - enough so to start threads about how bad he is - but I just like the guy. He KILLED me on the following exchange:

    "We're still here on ESPN News because of the never-ending Little League game on ESPN2. It's in extra innings, for those of you interested in what's happening in Williamsport."

    Gilbert: "What's the score!?"

    Fowler: "I don't care."

    Gold.
     
  33. Sander001

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    I wouldn't pay attention to those kind of threads, there are a lot of kids on here.
     
  34. tistrapukcipeht

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    So you're saying tenniswarehouse doesn't care updating the yonex page?

    I guess they read your post, they put Kerber the top 10 player over there, while I was reading some feedback about RDiS 200 lite I found her picture(looking good by the way), but Lisicki and Jheng Zie aren't there yet, they are in the top 30.
     
  35. tistrapukcipeht

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    I have to agree, however He just may have gotten some people who hit flat but have no clue about racquets to go demo Yonex since he is Brad Gilbert, so that may have been good for Yonex, but like all brands there will always be a spinny racquet and a flat hitting racquet, despite some people hitting with more spin or less spin.
     
  36. You Can't Be Serious

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    Thanks for noticing. They did put Kerber up but they still have Sabine on the Wilson page. Perhaps they focus more on the bigger racket companies.
     
  37. tistrapukcipeht

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    That may be right, who knows, so they're still missing Zheng Jie and Lisicki. Maybe they're working on it.

    I wonder how this choice of putting pictures of players work that you see Melanie Ouding on Wilson's but until yesterday Kerber was off the yonex page.
     
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    players change racquets so much, look at james b. wilson,dunlop, prince, now donnay I think.
     
  39. BigT

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    Hewitt was #1 for 80 weeks if I recall. Yonex had their chances.
     
  40. Power Player

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    Interesting fact though. The best racquets for QC are the lesser known sticks: Tecnifibre, Dunlop, Yonex, Pacific.

    So I am rather happy with where yonex is on the totem pole.
     
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    strange, everytime i carry my yonex bag into the office, people ask me if i'm playing badminton.
     
  42. BigT

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    It seems to me that their local representation is lacking.

    Back in the mid 90's, when Babolat first came out with racquets, here in SoCal their reps would hand out Pure Drives to just about anyone who would take them. Then Moya started winning, and the rest is history.
     
  43. Relinquis

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    it's the chick frame issue/perception.. which is pretty funny considering that Yonex make heavy small headsize racquets whereas wilson and babolat make light oversized granny sticks.

    they just have to sponsor a top american player, assuming the USA can produce one, and consumers will fall in line.
     
  44. Someone Else

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    I use Yonex racquets! All my three racquets are from Yonex.
    But I do not live in U.S. and A. at all, so do I still count?
     
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    And the positive: at least all of Yonex's expensive racquets are
    Made in Japan, unlike Wilson, Babolat, Head, Volkl, Prince, Tecnifibre.
    ..etc, who all outsourced production to China, and who only have
    Made in China racquets to offer and who have the nerve to charge the same price for a Made in China racquet that Yonex charges for a Made in Japan racquet.
     
  46. Boricua

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    Ryan Harrison playing with a Yonex VCORE Tour 97, that could be a start.
     
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    Does he already play with one or are you suggesting he should?
     
  48. hersito

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    I live in argentina and I never saw someone playing with a yonex racquet in any club, only seen pico and nalbandian playing with them at davis cup and thats it. You would think that them having argentinean pleayers would make the racquets more used here but never saw anyone using them, the same can be said to any other brand that is not wilson, babolat, head or prince. No solinco, volkl, etc.
     
  49. Boricua

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    He uses Babolat Storm Ltd GT right now. Heavy and thin racket like the 330 97 Tour. In stock form, the Babolat has much less swingweight but I suppose Harrison customizes it.
     
  50. Boricua

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    Maybe people buy because of the popularity of these brands and because Fed, Nadal, Murray and Djockovic use them. And, many people don't want the isometric shape. Also, is Yonex sold in pro shops in Argentina? Where I live (Puerto Rico) I dont get them and cant demo them. So, I guess people use what they can demo first. I bought Yonex initially without demoing and still do.
     

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