Whats your favorite rossignol?

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  1. teachingprotx

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    After alotta research i am amazed how many different sticks this company put out, thanks mostly to TW posters..
    I was only aware of the F200 (grey version). but now there are so many more that i was unaware of...Blue ones red ones green ones gey/green ones and even white ones.....somewhere i also read there was an f200 that had the same paint job ast the Pro staff Classic 6.1!!!! please share with us your fave rossi's and pics, wether or not if its in the F series or not. all rossi talk welcome and pictures please! thanks again.
    PS.. Dino is the man!:)
     
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  2. vsbabolat

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    My favorite Rossignol Racquets are:
    F100
    F200
    F300
    F250
    F295
     
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  3. teachingprotx

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    VS, is your list in order, from top to bottom? ...which f200 do you have? also how would you compare that to your f250 and f295? thanks!
    only hear say but i heard that the f200 plays similiar too the f290? and that the 250 is quite stiff in comparison to.....what do you think
     
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  4. vsbabolat

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    It is not in a order of preference. I have the last grey version of the F200 that has Wilander's signature on it. The F250 and F295 were stiffer than the F200. The F295 is my favorite Rossignol of all time.
     
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  5. teachingprotx

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    cool...yeah i just recently got too(dark grey) 2nd and 3rd generation models..
    one with the gusset in the throat with an R...that one does not have mats signature on it and also has a square handle/grip...the other last version has no gusset totally open throat with mats signature on the front beam..this one has a much more "normal" grip feels more like a head grip ...do you know anything about the R90...or the F290? I heard that the f290 or is it the f280 is very close in specs to the f200 without the heft..dont know if there is any truth too it cause i have no personal frame of reference...although i wish i did! maybe Dino will chime in, as he has a ton of these...
     
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  6. N23

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    I have the F280 and love the graphics on it. There was an F295 recently here for sale but didn't pick it up. The one Rossi I liked but can't find is the FT 5.80. That would be awesome to play with.
     
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  7. teachingprotx

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    yeah N23..i like the way the f280 looks too, great colors! ...would love to hit with her..if your ever in Dallas??:)
     
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    Vectris 9000 DP, one of their last releases before exiting the market. Inverted bridge + triangular cross section = a very sweet hit.
     
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    My fav, F200!
     
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  10. galain

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    I have all the F series bar the 150 and the lighter, later "Limitation" models that came out in Asia (as well as a quite a few other Rossi's hiding in the dark nether regions of my closets)

    My top three for hitting

    The original F200 with the filled in throat above the handle.
    The F290
    The F300

    I like softer sticks though. I have my 250 strung up with gut and she's a sweet hit if you like something a little firmer in feel.
     
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  11. pshulam

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    F250 for me since that's only one with which I ever hit.
     
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  12. Gorecki

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    Rossie experts: can anyone recognize that rossignol right there on the left?

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  13. galain

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    That's the F230 in red cosmetic. Also came in white. I have them both - they hit exactly the same. Always thought the 230 was a mistake from Rossi. Lacked the beefiness of the 200 and the 250.
     
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  14. Dino Lagaffe

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    My favorite Rossignol is the FGC. For me it's the sweetest of them all. Maybe it's got something to do with the flex?

    Weight: 361/12.73
    Flex: 31
    SW: 343


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    /Dino (the Man) :wink:
     
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  15. Gorecki

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    so Galain, if you were me would you buy it? i can rake the group for 25, and give the rest for charity as the others seem quite crappy.

    is this a deal or a hoax...
     
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  16. teachingprotx

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    ahhh..so far i agree with Galain, the f200 with the filled in throat is my favorite too( the grey version) no mats siggie..my personal reason is because its a bit lighter than my other one...it also boasts a squarish handle unlike my other f200 which is heavier in the head and has the open throat plus a more "americanized grip" that of a wilson ..
    now ...what i want to know is where the WHITE f200 truly stands in..
    I know from past posts that it is a "bit" lighter,which sounds really nice for me..lemme know your thoughts..
    (DINO /THE MAN:) of course it has to be the flex. 31 RDC and the SW. brilliant! still waiting for the playtest week at your place. How cool it would be .
     
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  17. Virginia

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    Where's schu47 - he should be posting in this thread - Rossi's are his favourite. :)
     
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  18. galain

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    My Rossignol illness started in 1984. I buy pretty much anything with a Rossi name on it, irrespective of how good it may be! If you're a collector, buy it. If you want to play with it - probably not. There are better classics that deserve your money more than this one.

    If you have $25 and it's not a big deal to you - why not?

    teachingprotx - the white F200 came in a couple of different versions - with and without the 'throat fill'. They're both lighter and consequently more flimsy than the originals. I'm pretty sure they were an Asian market release. They also feel very slightly stiffer (somewhere in the 40's!) than the originals.
     
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  19. Gorecki

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    no collector. i just like to play with vintage flexy feel frames, and what better for that feel than vintage frames. plus i am a head fan, so i tend to use\buy\stack on prestiges, radicals, and tours in all sizes(the moden day grommets compatibility is a plus for me since i can always refurbish them)... other than that, i just pick here and there one or two curious frames, being for the PJ of the looks or whatever reason catches my eye!

    Galain: thanks for your time... much apreciated. anything you need just dropme a line via profile!
     
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  20. schu47

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    Uh-oh, Virginia's calling me out! But she's right. I really do like Rossignols. There just aren't any other racquets like them. I have about 15 or 16, from early ones like the Tubex and Touch to the Vectris 6.000 and 9.000. I've got a few odd strays, too, like the DT 6.40 and RS 06. I'm not sure where those even fit in.

    My favorite is the F-280. I've had one for a while, and just got a second one off the Bay.

    If I were a better player, I probably would like the F-200, but it's just too soft for me. The 280 is probably just enough stiffer to suit me, although I have no idea what its specs are. It just seems to have a little more pop, which I need, being old, an average player at best, and more decrepit than I used to be.

    Galain, I've love to try the F-290. I keep looking for one on auction sites and in thrift store browsing, but they're hard to find.

    Other favorites:
    F-335
    FT 6.80

    Here are my F-280s. Pretty racquets, too.

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  21. Colpo

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    I really enjoyed their forays into the OS realm. The F300 comes to mind, as well as the kevlar-flecked F340. I thought Rossis' weight and balance, geared for the claycourter, married really nicely with a larger head because of the greater margin for error. The F295 was also a bang-up frame, but I loathed the Dodge Neon-abandoned-in-liquor-store-parking-lot bright purple paint!
     
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  22. Sidd Finch

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    Man, that F200 Carbon frame is an all-time fav of mine. What great flex, big sweetspot (given it's headsize), and what a sweet feel. Damn, I miss that racquet!
     
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  23. retrowagen

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    Hit a bit with my old F200 (1st gen.) last week, strung with Leoina 66.

    Man, the 80's were that great! It was a little slow at net, but the feel on groundies and serve was superbly plush and with decent power. Nice.

    I just made arrangements to obtain a Vectris 9,000, based on positive testimony from a trusted tennis gear afficionado friend. Can't wait to see what this most modern of inverted bridge Rossis plays like.
     
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  24. joe sch

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    I will repost Dino's rdc's for the Rossi's since it soo appro for this thread:

    Rossignol F200 (Blue) 349/12.31/33/345
    Rossignol F200 (Grey) 405/14.29/42/383
    Rossignol F200 (Green) 340/11.99/36/340
    Rossignol F200 (White) 344/12.13/36/326
    Rossignol F210 355/12.52/40/342
    Rossignol F230 358/12.63/45/331
    Rossignol F250 358/12.63/60/349
    Rossignol F335 372/13.12/42/374
    Rossignol F340 (A) 364/12.84/59/343
    Rossignol F340 (B) 361/12.73/60/342
    Rossignol FGC 361/12.73/31/343
    Rossignol R30 370/13.05/22/345
    Rossignol RS 376/13.26/32/349
    Rossignol Johan Kriek 366/12.91/30/344

    My fav is the F200 strung with loose natty gut. Soo much flex it almost feels like a sling shot. I love the feel of being able to hold onto those felts and produce all that spin. These rackets are also great for tennis elbow cures.
     
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  25. galain

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    Thanks Joe - interesting to read. My R30 feels a bit stiffer than 22, and the Kriek auto, definitely more than 30. It's interesting that flex can be so subjective.

    I'd agree with all the others pretty much!
     
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  26. jimbo333

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    Does anyone know what racquet Johan Kriek played before the "Johan Kriek Carbon" please?

    Have seen a photo from 1981 and it looks like a F250 or maybe even a F300?

    Anyone know please?
     
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  27. vsbabolat

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    Before the Johan Kriek Carbon Kriek used the R40. After the Johan Kriek Carbon he used the F250.
     
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    Thanks:)

    How you remember all this is amazing!
     
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    I was actually a fan of Johan Kriek, and always wondered what strange looking racquets he used at the time!

    Also he won the Australian Open in 1981 and 1982. And I'd really like to know what racquets he used then when winning them?

    Or even what racquets he was likely to be using then when winning them:)
     
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    Donnay pro cynetic 1 :)
     
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  31. vsbabolat

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    I tend to think it was the Rossignol R40 and then the Johan Kriek.
    Wimbledon 1982
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  32. vsbabolat

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    I think that was his unlikely run to the 1986 Roland Garros semis.;-)
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  33. galain

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    Pretty sure it was the R40 for the 1st win and the auto model for the second. They both feel the same to me - although I've been very careful with the Kriek model. I'd guess it was just a new cosmetic - perhaps CoachRick can help?
     
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    ^^^^Thank you everyone, much appreciated:)

    The knowledge you all have never fails to amaze me!
     
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    R40 early on, for sure...not clear after '81 since I bailed on Rossi and the rep business for a couple of years around that time. In the early days of the Rossignol Team, Kriek was known to regularly make obscene hand gestures toward his racket(or strings). Not a great sales strategy.

    Does anyone remember the clothing line Kriek developed? Had a rhino as the logo. I saw it at the Super Show(IIRC) but never after that. Mayhaps the line didn't make it to the States(or anywhere?).
     
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  36. ericsson

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    I know VS, i was only joking ;-)
     
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  37. vsbabolat

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    I know. I was trying to dazzle you with a bit of you useless information I know.:)
     
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    Certainly dazzling, but never useless:)

    And while looking at Johan Kriek winning the Australian Open twice, I noticed that Brian Teacher won it 1980 amazingly:shock:

    So here is one to test everybodys memory banks, what racquet was Brian Teacher using to win the Australian Open in 1980 please?
     
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  39. vsbabolat

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    I don't know. Could it have been a Pro Kennex? Coachrick, do you know?
     
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  40. coachrick

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    Sorry...you got me on that one! I was a fledgling sales rep, one year out of college. If he didn't play with Rossignol, I wasn't interested! J/K and all that! :)
     
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    Could be, the pro kennex he used was the black ace but that was later...
     
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    I actually do think it was a Pro Kennex, but would really like to know which one, even which type of PK in 1980 it is likely to be would interest me:)
     
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    Thanks for trying!

    Still can't believe Brian Teacher won the Australian Open in 1980:shock:

    If anyone else knows what PK racquet or other type of racquet he used to win the Australian Open in 1980, please let me know. Not that it matters, but now I've started looking, I'd really like to know LOL:)
     
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    Dang fellows! If I thought the answer could be a repressed memory or something similar, I would undergo hypnosis to dredge it up! I'll admit that I couldn't get Elliot Telcher out of my mind while trying to conjure up visions of Brian Teacher's racket! Memories are such funny things!

    Was Kennex(under their own name) really on the radar in '80? I don't recall them on the scene until a bit later but it is possible I'm forgetting a year or two! :)

    Guess I've been stumped! Carry on.
     
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    Yes, this is a tough one:)

    Brian Teacher wasn't that well known!

    I'm sure Kennex was around before 1980 (before it came Pro Kennex), but it may not be a Kennex racquet that he used, this one is a real challenge, can it be solved?
     
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    Thanks:)

    But the top photo isn't opening up for me:(

    I've just checked an old tennis magazine from April 1980 and the Pro Kennex Black Ace was available then, and was $160:shock:
     
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    the black ace was PK's top of the line model for most of the 80's as i recall.
     
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    And having looked further at the magazine (great read by the way:)), it seems Kennex became Pro Kennex in 1980!

    And the Black Ace was available in 1979, firstly as the Kennex Black Ace in Mid and O/S apparently, and made of 100% Graphite:shock:
     
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    :)

    So the question is, did Teacher use it earlier to win Australian Open in 1980?
     
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