Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by 90's Clay, Aug 22, 2012.
NatF is pretty cool about stuff.
Does this clay-courter make anyone's top 10?
FYI, the ATP didn't exist for the first 5 years of the open era, and then, only as a players union and a computer ranking system, not a circuit. The two main pro circuits were the Grand Prix and the WCT. The international circuit was administered by the ILTF. The ATP Tour started in 1990. Connors and others won many important non-ATP events in their careers, many of which the current ATP doesn't keep track of. For example, I've read sources that have Lendl, Rosewall and Gonzalez winning more than 130 titles, each. In addition to all of that, the ATP website is notoriously unreliable and incomplete, especially data that predates its existence.
Well, I have had the privilege of seeing him play, live, several times in his prime. In my view, he is about as talented as anyone. His return game, second only to Agassi's in my opinion, is testament to that.
Brett69, In open era Connors won about 150 titles. ATP did not count many of them.
NatF, I'm glad I finally can agree. But you and I and all others should try to avoid the word "silly". I concede it's sometimes difficult to do so...
Limpin, I agree.
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