When playing Mixed against a lower rated female I prefer to aim right at the female

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by Gut4Tennis, Oct 12, 2013.

  1. NJLefty

    NJLefty Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    174
    You are clearly an *******. Deal with it.

    And not for your tennis tactics. You clearly have other A hole tendencies to figure out.
     
  2. Attila_the_gorilla

    Attila_the_gorilla Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Messages:
    1,204
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    It's ridiculous to suggest that amateur/recreational tennis is somehow less worthwhile than the professional game. Or that there's not enough to play for to jusify doing your best to win.

    I don't think copping a groundstroke is so dangerous anyway. Besides, what if both the opponents come up to the net and your best shot is to drive between them. You may miss your target and hit the girl. She'll live.

    Overhead smashes can be more dangerous.
     
  3. asimple

    asimple Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    437
    In most decent doubles matches I get hit and end up hitting someone at least once, and in 20 years of tennis have been hurt about 3 times total. And hurt does not mean injury just intense pain for a short period of time on well placed shots. The biggest pain I get now is the embarrassment from being too fat and slow to get out of the way. Where I have seen people get injured is from reacting stupidly to a ball hit at them from hitting themselves with their racquet or twisting an ankle or knee. I think people at certain levels take getting hit far far too seriously.

    In general I still go at people on certain shots, but on the rare occasion I play mixed or even against weaker male opponents do my best to keep shots under control. I'm way past my prime so a tennis match is not that important especially mixed.
     
  4. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    He is ridiculous
     
  5. eelhc

    eelhc Professional

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,447
    I wish I was good enough to hit a target as small as my opponent's head from even 10 feet out... I don't think we'll be able to come to an agreement. That said, since there will always be people like me, the OP and many others who see nothing wrong with hitting at an opponent or when an opponent hits at us, you'll have to either deal with it or not play against "jerks" like us.
     
  6. sovertennis

    sovertennis Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2013
    Messages:
    520
    "Top 10 National Ranking"

    In what category (eg, D-Bag/Narcissistic ***-hat)?
     
  7. beernutz

    beernutz Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    4,399
    Location:
    expanding my Ignore List
    #1 in both those categories imo.
     
  8. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    top 10 at hitting at the female
     
  9. Fintft

    Fintft Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    2,655
    Can't do that, i.e. on one ocassion I gave a male a black eye from behind the baseline...
     
  10. Fintft

    Fintft Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    2,655
    But than again, Sunday we played 2 guys against 2 women (just to make it fair ...for us) and although the one that had a college tennis scholarship never hit at me at the net, I've started eventually to hit at her feet or to pass her down the alley (since we couldn't really hit at her less skilled partner).

    We lost 1-6, 3-6 lol but it was fun, man that ball was spinning (very hard to poach) and got placed on a dime.
     
  11. Bdarb

    Bdarb Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,536
    Location:
    New England
    I have to disagree entirely. There is absolutely no threat of contact in a board game unless you are playing with a lunatic or cross fire (what a great game that was). Conversely, while you may not expect to get hit by a tennis ball in tennis, it is not out of the realm of possibility for anyone. It happens and is an inherent risk in physical activity that one takes when playing.

    If someone is playing 9.5 mixed and cant take a ground stroke at net, they either need to evaluate their rating or stop playing 9.5 mixed.

    I feel like I'm through the wormhole here.. I mean seriously how bad can a tennis ball hurt? I've never seen someone get hurt, I have seen plenty of people get hit, and hard. It leaves a bruise for a couple days.. wahhh

    No one said anything about hitting someone in the face intentionally. If they don't expect that they COULD get hit in the face while playing net against a 4.5 player male or female, they are naieve and don't have the volley skills to play the court they're on, nevermind the position on the court.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2013
  12. TennisCJC

    TennisCJC Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    5,280
    What about women hitting at men and women. I am male and have played against 2 different women in mixed matches in last couple of years who took every short shot hard at the net person with very little attempt to keep it away from the head. Basically, they just blasted it right at the net person without regard to hitting them in the nose or not. We won both matches but it was testy at times.
     
  13. Fintft

    Fintft Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    2,655

    Well you then I try to scare them away from the net, from...behind the baseline. More often then not, they'll back away.
     
  14. RetroSpin

    RetroSpin Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2011
    Messages:
    1,856
    Unless you want to be laughed at, you really can't say anything to a girl who hit at you. You also look like a jerk if you give her a taste of some payback, but really, are you out there to make friends? She disrespected your manhood and has to pay the price.
     
  15. jservoss

    jservoss Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    136
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    I played mixed in one of those US Open regional qualifying tournaments and first point of the match my partner hit a weak return where the female (WTA 132 at the time) took a huge swinging topspin backhand volley that drilled me. Pretty much set the stage for that whole match. We spent most of the match protecting ourselves. Lost 6-0,6-1.
     
  16. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    lol

    i love you
     
  17. J_R_B

    J_R_B Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010
    Messages:
    2,632
    Location:
    Newtown, PA
    If that happens, Gut4 just whips his junk out and then they cower in fear.
     
  18. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    my junk has been known to dominate

    ty
     
  19. struggle

    struggle Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages:
    4,254
    Location:
    Western North Carolina
    i think i'ma start a thread about this.
     
  20. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    you dont want to share your story here?
     
  21. AtomicForehand

    AtomicForehand Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,792
    Gut4Tennis starts hitting at me, he better be wearing his cup, because his impressive junk is gonna start taking some Wilsons full on at 90 MPH.
     
  22. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    do girls hit groundstrokes at 90mph? I doubt it
     
  23. Sakkijarvi

    Sakkijarvi Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2007
    Messages:
    505
    I don't drill my male friends with the ball. Why would I drill female players??? As a former pitcher, I could put a ball on you anytime. Tennis is similar, there are lots of opportunities to do unsportsmanlike and potentially dangerous things -- in this recreational setting. At least in baseball I was playing for my school ... and I still don't see why the power to drill someone and possible harm them should be abused.

    Winning? Yeah, like Charlie Sheen, 'winning'.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2013
  24. Adles

    Adles Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    164
    Location:
    NH
    She plays with Penn tennis balls - she was referring to Wilson tennis shoes!
     
  25. The Isomotion31

    The Isomotion31 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    484
    Location:
    The Bay Area, California
    WTF is going on here.
     
  26. J_R_B

    J_R_B Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010
    Messages:
    2,632
    Location:
    Newtown, PA
    I was thnking racket.
     
  27. jservoss

    jservoss Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    136
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    Gut, you would be proud of me. Although it wasn't intentional, I hit a female opponent in the forehead with a serve during a mixed league match Friday night. I knew it was going to happen eventually when I saw she was going to stand 2 ft from the service line to try and return. It was hard to feel bad because she had plenty of close calls before this and chose not to back up.
     
  28. beernutz

    beernutz Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    4,399
    Location:
    expanding my Ignore List
    Who could possibly return a serve from 2 feet behind the service line?
     
  29. jservoss

    jservoss Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    136
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    I think it was more of a gamesmanship tactic. She has probably had some of the males hold back because of where she stood. She also didn't flinch or budge at all on popups to my forehand. My entire team was in disbelief. We called it kamikaze tennis.
     
  30. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    even more impressive to kick someone at 90 mph. I think its possible for a female to hit a serve at 90 mph if she was a 5.0. Some 4.5 girls could get it to 90, but not many.

    :twisted:
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2013
  31. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    wow

    I doubt she was really 2 feet from the line, but its possible.

    Was this a flat serve on the deuce side or a kicker on the ad??

    More info please as this is one of those rare occasions. I was first thinking you hit your partner, but to his an opponent on the forehead is epic. epic
     
  32. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    I'm sure she gets lots of guys double faulting when she pulls that move. Good for you to not let it bother you and smack her right in the face/forehead

    She sounds very tough so she can take it, and will come back for seconds I'm sure

    She is my kind of woman. Have her message me will ha? I got a riding crop with her name on it.
     
  33. paul500w

    paul500w Rookie

    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Messages:
    122
    Location:
    Atlanta Ga
    I play a lot of mixed tennis. I normally play with my wife but have to play with other woman at times when the lineup calls for it.

    I have found that most woman don't mind the guy coming at them, it when the male trys to hurt them, that makes them have an issue. You can hit at someone so it's at their feet or a step to the left or right with out having to hit the person. When males try to hit the woman in the face or body is when I take issue.

    Again, most woman don't mind you hitting the ball at them as long as you are not trying to hit them. I don't know you should ever try to hit someone male or female.
     
  34. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    Going at the body is a smart play in doubles, same as a serve to the body. When going at the body you sometimes hit the body, and I will never be scared to go at the body just because its a female. Females are tough
     
  35. Fintft

    Fintft Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    2,655
    Will it be ok to go at them from the baseline?

    That's what I usually do to chase someone (male or female) from the net, or just to alternate with a DTL passing shot, as opposed to going CC each time...
     
  36. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,081
    I used to do that regularly when I was an Open level player. I don't have those reflexes any more and would likely get hurt now. Can't think it would be a good idea for a lower-level woman to do that.
     
  37. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Messages:
    34,762
    It works very well. Most club men are lousy servers and get lousier when faced with a challenge like this. Their lack of mechanics results in panic and they double fault.
     
  38. beernutz

    beernutz Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    4,399
    Location:
    expanding my Ignore List
    You stood 2 feet behind the service line?
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2013
  39. zaskar1

    zaskar1 New User

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2010
    Messages:
    59
    its ok

    i dont know why hitting to or at the weaker player is considered poor sportsmanship?
    at the higher levels, you never hit at a player, as their quick hands makes
    volleying winners easy.

    if you are playing doubles, you try to hit to the weaker player.
    to hit to the stronger player is just "poor strategy"

    unless its a social or "non" competitive environment, i would think its ok

    z
     
  40. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,081
    I would touch the service line with the head of my racket.

    I meant I would get hurt if I did it against Open-level players. I still do it sometimes at my current level. Unfortunately, I don't win as many points doing it as I used to since I am not so fast even relative to my current low level of play. Once in a while it will get me a free point, though.
     
  41. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    I'm gonna try this. I stand right on the baseline and half volley GS's so this must be in a way similar.
     
  42. tennis_ocd

    tennis_ocd Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,002
    Throw in a weak serve and it becomes even easier to target the net player on returns.
     
  43. paul500w

    paul500w Rookie

    Joined:
    May 31, 2013
    Messages:
    122
    Location:
    Atlanta Ga
    I'm guessing you are getting paid then?

    I play a lot of ALTA tennis and I've seen the guys who play mixed and are always trying to hit people. Even their own teammates will say they are jerks. Nobody says you can't play smart and hit towards the weaker player but hitting AT someone versus hitting towards someone is totally different.

    I think the guys who try to hit at the females should just stick to Men's doubles.
     
  44. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    Yes I do, and I get a bonus if I hit the female with the ball.

    Im a tennis zombie

    [​IMG]
     
  45. Overdrive

    Overdrive Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,301
    Location:
    Garden of Gethsemane
    ^ What the.....
     
  46. Sox Fan

    Sox Fan New User

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2010
    Messages:
    69
    Location:
    Michigan
    I find most etiquette debates in tennis revolving around aiming a shot at someone to be ridiculous. Social mixed doubles, I get it. Outside of that.....

    If you don't want to get hit with the ball, stay away from the net.

    If you are a 4.5 woman and don't want some gorilla blasting the ball at you, play with the other ladies.

    I play a lot of double (not mixed). Always amazed when someone gets a little chippy when they are crowding the net when their partner is hitting a second serve and they get a return hit right at them. You stand up there, you take your chances. Standing at the net, to me, is an aggressive position. Aggression comes with exposure. You want to play it safe, stand at the baseline.
     
  47. Fintft

    Fintft Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    2,655
    Especially since a net person gives me a target that I can "see with my shoulder" (so to speak), when I stay with the shot (keeping the eyes on the contact point). That's when I hit most relaxed and with most power, from close to the baseline.
     
  48. Gut4Tennis

    Gut4Tennis Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2013
    Messages:
    2,268
    Location:
    Tennis Court
    I agree

    hey in your signature what does LBs mean?
     
  49. Sox Fan

    Sox Fan New User

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2010
    Messages:
    69
    Location:
    Michigan
    Just saw this. So true!

    I played baseball in college and then in adult amateur leagues.

    When I get hit by a tennis ball, and everyone on the court freaks out thinking I got hurt, it always makes me chuckle a little. I am very aggressive, always rushing the net when I can and fully understand I am putting myself in harm's way intentionally. My pro finally figured it out months ago and said "oh, I guess this in nothing compared to getting hit with a 90 mph fastball".

    Yep, exactly.
     
  50. Kenzik

    Kenzik New User

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2012
    Messages:
    54
    Errrrr, pounds?
     

Share This Page