When will Nadal win the Australian Open

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when will Nadal win the Australian Open

  1. next year 2008

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  2. in a couple years 2009

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  3. 2010 will be the year

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  4. not until after 2010

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  5. never wins the Australian

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  1. anointedone

    anointedone Banned

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    When will Rafa win his first Australian Open. This is one that I think most agree he is likely to win at some point. When that will be, well that is what the poll is for.
     
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  2. anointedone

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    Vive la beau jeu I notice quickly voted never in all of my polls. I bet he is a Nadal hater or something. :(
     
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  3. veritech

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    they changed the courts right? is it the same material as the USO?
     
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  4. diegaa

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    playing like he is doing now he has huge chances next year. in my book, he is the 2nd fav.
     
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  5. Virginia

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    No, it's still Rebound Ace.
     
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  6. baseliner87

    baseliner87 Rookie

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    still rebound but just a tick quicker and some other features
     
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  7. anointedone

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    Bumping up.
     
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  8. helloworld

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    It's an improved version of a rebound ace.
     
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  9. Rhino

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    Federer was so dominant at the AO while Rafa was dropping sets all over the place. My guess is that Nadal will never win it because there are too many guys out there that can beat him on Rebound Ace. Grass is different, there are almost no grass court specialists and Wimbledon is very slow.
     
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  10. welcome2petrkordaland

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    Other than Fed's serve on the grass, Rafa's shown an ability to not only deal with but to overcome everything Fed has. Fed better hit the weights and target fitness and stamina if he wants to beat Nadal in 3 of 5 sets on non-grass superficies, should they face at Flushing Meadows or Melbourne Park at any point in the future. I still, though, have to give the edge to Roger on the grass due to the serve.
     
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  11. robin7

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    2008.

    Any idea of why we have 2 hard courts out of 4 Grand Slams?
    I know it sounds stupid to ask: is hard court the fastest surface?
    Why had Borg, McEnroe & Connors never taken part in AO during their era?
     
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  12. Rhino

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    Yes hard is fastest. McEnroe played the AO 5 times, including 3 times in the 80's. It was considered less of a big deal back then, and was on grass instead of hard, although Borg did play it once, and Connors played it a couple of times in the 70's, in fact I think he even won it.
     
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  13. ajaxman

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    rafa win AO when roger has an injury
     
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  14. West Coast Ace

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    We'll found out how much that 'tick' is in January - will be interesting.

    You've got to be kidding. Fed has no fitness problems at all. About two years ago he got leaner and stronger - all he needs to do is maintain that. Did you forget the AO final is at night? Fed got weaker MENTALLY when he saw that he was beaten at the French - he's never run out of gas physically.

    Mac talked about that during the coverage. Back in the day the AO was played near Christmas. Even when they initially changed to January, they still had to offer appearance fees. Even with jet air travel, it's a long way from both the US and Europe.
     
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  15. welcome2petrkordaland

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    btw, the results of this poll reflect either Federer bias or
    that many don't know tennis. dee ta deeeeee. don't be a dee.
    let's see. the hottest grand slam played on a slower hard court (i know i know but not as slow now) at the beginning of the year, which weeds out undedicated players who aren't in shape yet and Nadal will NEVER win it. dum da dumb dumb dumbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb.
     
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  16. theballboy

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plexicushion

    Nadal can't even beat Blake on fast hardcourts. He has NO chance of beating Federer.
     
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  17. tennisrules531

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    Nadal will win after Federer retires
     
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  18. welcome2petrkordaland

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    Nadal is not the same player he was EVEN LAST YEAR. Don't be surprised when Nadal's h2h record against No Plan B Blake and other flatballers starts to even out. Nadal has learned/is still learning/improving how to attack and close. Did you watch any Wimby?

    I could see Murray and Djoker (as well as Fed, obviously) at least posing problems for Nadal in the next few years on hard courts.

    And at the risk of igniting this huge Fed. vs. Nadal controversy, Nadal's 2-2 h2h against Fed on hard courts.

    "NO chance," huh? Can you say Dubai '06 final, anyone? This is against a more one-dimensional Nadal on a very fast hard court in 3 sets!
     
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  19. theballboy

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    Dubai is slow hardcourt. Very slow. Nothing like Decoturf. Notice how Nadal got his ass handed to him at the USO later that year.
     
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  20. welcome2petrkordaland

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    uhhh . . . wrong. dubai's one of the fastest. i stand by my initial comment refuting the outlandish comment that Nadal has no chance of beating Fed on hard. I know, I really don't even have to say that, do I?
     
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  21. Nadal_Freak

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    Nadal has a good shot at beating Fed on hardcourts. He already did it twice. The problem is a lot of players are good on hardcourts and are able to take it to Nadal. Nadal will have to be more consistent and aggresive to avoid the upsets.
     
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  22. 2shots

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    so you are saying Nadal is undedicated as he has not done much at the AO....shame, double standards....
     
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  23. Dave M

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    Janurary!:grin:
     
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  24. edmondsm

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    With Nadal I think it's about how bad he wants it, I think he wants to win Wimby and the USO more, so I don't think he will win this one.

    His chances: 20%
     
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  25. welcome2petrkordaland

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    i have to throw my 2 cents worth again about the absurdity of the Federer-biased poll-takers who think Nadal will NEVER win the AO. . . yeah right. aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh . . Bueller? . . . Bueller? Has anyone seen Farris Bueller?
     
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  26. NadalForever

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    Nadal is going to win the next three slams. Federer fans might as well enjoy and party this recent win because Federer aint winning any slams until next year's Wimbledon at the earliest.
     
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  27. Nadal_Freak

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    I guess being unbiased is a lost art. I strive to not be a total Nadal homer. lol
     
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  28. anointedone

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    Hey tennis fans are not nearly the worst. Look at baseball fans and soccer fans. Now those give homers a new name, and even put us more "emotionaly charged" of the tennis fans to shame. :p
     
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  29. ATPattic

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    might be harder since its faster, but I think he might win it
     
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  30. Tennisace1

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    i thought if he played in 06, he could have won it.
     
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  31. Polaris

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    He did play in 06. Went out in the QFs courtesy Gonzo and perhaps an injury.
     
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  32. anointedone

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    That was this year, 2007. Not 2006 which was last year.
     
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  33. Polaris

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    Oops. My bad.
     
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  34. anointedone

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    For the record I personally think he would have had a great shot in 2006. Fed lost 5 sets in his final 4 matches that year. His opponents were Haas in the 4th round, Davydenko in the quarters, Kiefer in the semis, Baghdatis in the final. Davydenko is a very tough quarterfinal round opponent. However the rest, while strong, are hardly murderer rows lineup.

    The courts seemed to be playing alot slower that year then this past year, which would have benefited Nadal. Also Nadal was able to beat Federer in the Dubai final soon after the Australian Open on a faster hard court.

    In addition there seemed to be few of the more impressive flat hitters make it into the second week that time that trouble Nadal, although obviously hard to tell how the draw would have shook out.
     
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  35. rwn

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    You have it completely wrong. Nadal has never beaten Federer in a best of 5 off clay. He is the one who needs to improve.
     
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  36. caulcano

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    SO are you saying Federer will win the FO when Nadal has an injury?
     
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