Where are umpires Lahyani, Molina, Mourier etc? M.I.A, benched or sacked ???

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  1. MAXXply

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    We're approaching the middle weekend of the AO and so far I haven't seen a beep of regular umpires Mohammed Lahyani, Enric Molina and Cedric Mourier, to name three. Where are these guys? I'm missing Jimmy Smits/Quentin Tarantino lookalike Lahyani the most. It isn't the same without his emphatic "Thir-TAY-fif-TEEN-UH"...

    Veteran umpire John Lloyd, sorry, Gerry Armstrong called the Fed/Davydenko match tonight. He was working Sydney last week as well. Isn't he supposed to be an ATP backroom guy nowadays? Does the fact they wheeled Armstrong out to call matches mean Lahyani, Molina and Mourier et.al have skipped this year's AO ??
     
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  2. The Meat

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    Lahyani is serving a silent ban, will return in the clay season.
     
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  3. Thud and blunder

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    There was a mass boycott of US Open 2011 over pay; maybe the same story?
     
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  4. axel89

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    the umps get payed low like 300$ a match should be 1.5k atleast
     
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    Uncle Toni took them to a paid vacation to ask for extra two minutes:)
     
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  6. pound cat

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    Maybe they have taken this time to have a vacation. Oz is very far away and very hot at this time of the year.
     
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  7. Minion

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    bwahahahahahahaaha! seems to be the trend these days:)
     
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  8. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    I tend not to focus on the umpires, only the players. :p
     
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  9. Feather

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    Who do you focus on in the last nine months or so? :wink:
     
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  10. woodrow1029

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    Gerry Armstrong is a chair umpire and a tour supervisor.

    I don't think Mohamed Lahyani was assigned by ATP as one of their 2 designate umpires. I believe it was Armstrong and Bernardes. I have seen Enric Molina (as he is the head of ITF Officiating and a member of the ITF Grand Slam Team of chair umpires, he is most certainly there).

    I don't know if Cedric Mourier is working Australian Open. I don't think he usually does.
     
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  11. woodrow1029

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    $300 per match??? LOL. Not in this lifetime.
     
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  12. Relinquis

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    Lahyani was umpiring in doha. maybe he picked up an injury afterwords...
     
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  13. Totai

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    So, do they make more than $300?
     
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  14. woodrow1029

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    It's between $150-250 per day.

    Except for a very few that are salaried by ITF/WTA/ATP, they only get a couple hundred dollars for travel expenses. (When traveling from overseas, plane tickets are around $1,500-2,000, and then they only get around $200 reimbursed).

    Housing is provided, and meals on site are provided.
     
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  15. MAXXply

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    Woodrow, you know that lineswoman who was shouted at by Serena at the USO ? From what I've seen of her on the TV coverage, she obviously travels the circuit calling lines on a regular if not fulltime basis. From what you're saying about the meagre remuneration of travelling officials, would it be reasonable to assume that a person wanting to work like her would need to do so mostly on their own dime? i.e, be mainly self-financed to call lines on the tour?
     
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    Yes. Line umpires make about $135-200 per day, plus housing is provided, and meals on site.

    They get some travel allowance (not much), and meals off site are their own responsibility.

    Btw, she is one of the top line umpires in the world.
     
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  17. Legend of Borg

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    As long as we have Lars Graf all is good.

    Mourier is a noob BTW.
     
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  18. joeri888

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    I talked to a Linesman in Rotterdam this year. Said he does it for 4 to 8 weeks a year. Mostly a hobby. His salary plus allowance cover his hobby. No more no less.
     
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    Lars Graff retired as a chair umpire at the end of last year. He is now working in the officiating department at ATP headquarters in Florida, and working part time as a Tour Supervisor.
     
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  20. beast of mallorca

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    If what you're saying is true, airfare alone from US to OZ is around $1500. How can somebody like her make a living out of that meager salary ? And that's already for a top line umpire ! Ridiculous !! ITF is ripping you guys off. :evil:
     
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    you made my day
     
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  22. MAXXply

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    I've just returned from a weekend at the AO. Funny thing, on Saturday night I took the tram ride from RLA back into town. As I took my seat waiting for the tram to depart, I immediately noticed "The Famous Serena Lineswoman" was sitting opposite me! I was so thrilled that something so random could happen.

    I immediately engaged her in conversation and she was politely obliging. Admittedly, it was a full tram and she had no other tram seat to move to. A deer stuck in the headlights may be an apt description. The people sitting next to us had no clue who she was.

    Woodrow, I asked her the same questions I asked you and she confirmed the financial difficulties of being a travelling linesperson. She would love to work the circuit more but travelling expenses are prohibitive for her. She said her next tourney after AO was gonna be Memphis. She complimented me on my knowledge of umpires and I said I was just a longtime tennis fan and follower of the Tour.

    As the tram arrived at our stop she politely refused my request for a pic. I was gonna offer her dinner in nearby Chinatown but I figured she'd be tired after a long day and in no mood to indulge an inquisitive tennis fan who may or may not be a knife-wielding homicidal maniac. I said she should try and work Sydney next year. I thanked her for the brief chat and we wished each other well before heading off into the Melbourne sunset...
     
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