Where do I tie off for this racquet?

[sstchur]

Gamma Tour 330X
length 38' ss:9' pattern 16x18 start M's @T mains skip 7T,9T & 7H,9H tie off M's @8T 2piece start X @7H tie off at 5H,11T

I'm an inexperienced stringer, so this is probably a silly question, but that pattern indicates you can do either one or two piece correct?

2piece is obvious as it's written right into the pattern. And when it says "ss:" that means short-side right? Indicating that 9 feet is what you use for the short side when stringing one piece.

So when doing one piece, where do I tie off? Mains at 8T, right? And crosses? At 5H?

 

[PimpMyGame]

Gamma Tour 330X
length 38' ss:9' pattern 16x18 start M's @T mains skip 7T,9T & 7H,9H tie off M's @8T 2piece start X @7H tie off at 5H,11T

I'm an inexperienced stringer, so this is probably a silly question, but that pattern indicates you can do either one or two piece correct?

I don't follow internet stringing patterns unless I'm really stuck but I'd say yes you can string either 1 or 2 piece.

2piece is obvious as it's written right into the pattern. And when it says "ss:" that means short-side right? Indicating that 9 feet is what you use for the short side when stringing one piece.

Yes and yes.

So when doing one piece, where do I tie off? Mains at 8T, right? And crosses? At 5H?

Well I might be wrong on this one but unless that racket is ok to string crosses bottom up you would need a round the world pattern to string 1 piece. I use Liam Nolan's UKRSA RTW pattern but there are a few available, all with their pros and cons. A great place to start is YULitle's Youtube channel which will be a great help if you haven't come across this before.

 

[Lakers4Life]

Gamma Tour 330X
length 38' ss:9' pattern 16x18 start M's @T mains skip 7T,9T & 7H,9H tie off M's @8T 2piece start X @7H tie off at 5H,11T

I'm an inexperienced stringer, so this is probably a silly question, but that pattern indicates you can do either one or two piece correct?

2piece is obvious as it's written right into the pattern. And when it says "ss:" that means short-side right? Indicating that 9 feet is what you use for the short side when stringing one piece.

So when doing one piece, where do I tie off? Mains at 8T, right? And crosses? At 5H?

It all depends on where you end. Either at 5H or 11T.

 

[sstchur]

I don't follow internet stringing patterns unless I'm really stuck but I'd say yes you can string either 1 or 2 piece.



Yes and yes.



Well I might be wrong on this one but unless that racket is ok to string crosses bottom up you would need a round the world pattern to string 1 piece. I use Liam Nolan's UKRSA RTW pattern but there are a few available, all with their pros and cons. A great place to start is YULitle's Youtube channel which will be a great help if you haven't come across this before.

Why would it not be okay to string crosses bottom up?

 

[PimpMyGame]

Why would it not be okay to string crosses bottom up?

Virtually all modern rackets are designed to be strung top down. As you string the crosses there is a build up of stress on the racket frame and stringing bottom up means the frame is carrying a large amount of stress at the top of the hoop, which may cause it to break before you complete the job. By stringing top down the stress builds up at the throat, the area which is most able to withstand this increase in pressure.

I believe some pros prefer the racket strung bottom up (Nadal?) but for a stringer it's not advisable as you will end up having to replace someone's frame, and may invalidate the warranty.

For the record, and off topic, another hint when starting to string is Head rackets - most need to be strung 2 piece due to frame design and stringing 1 piece definitely invalidates the warranty. Best to check when you get a Head frame you're not familiar with, in this case the stringing patterns are most helpful because they specify 2pc only.

 

[sstchur]

Virtually all modern rackets are designed to be strung top down. As you string the crosses there is a build up of stress on the racket frame and stringing bottom up means the frame is carrying a large amount of stress at the top of the hoop, which may cause it to break before you complete the job. By stringing top down the stress builds up at the throat, the area which is most able to withstand this increase in pressure.

I believe some pros prefer the racket strung bottom up (Nadal?) but for a stringer it's not advisable as you will end up having to replace someone's frame, and may invalidate the warranty.

For the record, and off topic, another hint when starting to string is Head rackets - most need to be strung 2 piece due to frame design and stringing 1 piece definitely invalidates the warranty. Best to check when you get a Head frame you're not familiar with, in this case the stringing patterns are most helpful because they specify 2pc only.

So maybe, just as a matter of precaution, I should just stick with 2 piece on this racquet then? I did one piece and went bottom up and the frame seemed fine, but I guess, in the future, I shouldn't push my luck!

 

[jim e]

Gamma Tour 330X
length 38' ss:9' pattern 16x18 start M's @T mains skip 7T,9T & 7H,9H tie off M's @8T 2piece start X @7H tie off at 5H,11T

I'm an inexperienced stringer, so this is probably a silly question, but that pattern indicates you can do either one or two piece correct?

2piece is obvious as it's written right into the pattern. And when it says "ss:" that means short-side right? Indicating that 9 feet is what you use for the short side when stringing one piece.

So when doing one piece, where do I tie off? Mains at 8T, right? And crosses? At 5H?

According to your racquet pattern,you can string this one as one or two piece, and yours can be strung bottom up, unlike some other racquets that are only top down.
In the USRSA digest it lists your racquet to be strung as either 1 or 2 piece.Your pattern you have listed is correct.Personally I string most racquets top down, but your racquet can be done bottom up if you desire to.

 

[Lakers4Life]

According to your racquet pattern,you can string this one as one or two piece, and yours can be strung bottom up, unlike some other racquets that are only top down.
In the USRSA digest it lists your racquet to be strung as either 1 or 2 piece.Your pattern you have listed is correct.Personally I string most racquets top down, but your racquet can be done bottom up if you desire to.

Jim, correct me if I'm wrong. But aren't Top/Down and Bottom/Up cross stringing dependent on where the mains center, Head or Throat?

For example if the Throat has 4 pairs, the ends of the mains will finish at the top. If it were 3 or Odd pairs, they would finish at the bottom. This is assuming that the patterns are 16 mains, which a majority of racquets are.

 

[jim e]

Jim, correct me if I'm wrong. But aren't Top/Down and Bottom/Up cross stringing dependent on where the mains center, Head or Throat?

For example if the Throat has 4 pairs, the ends of the mains will finish at the top. If it were 3 or Odd pairs, they would finish at the bottom. This is assuming that the patterns are 16 mains, which a majority of racquets are.

For 1 piece stringing no it is not dependent on what you said, its more manufacturer dependent rather than what you said. Say if it is a Head racquet, and the mains end at the throat, you still do not want to string bottom up, as that is not allowed by Head,(or others like Yonex, and Prince),as that can break the racquet if strung bottom up, so if you still want a one piece , you need to do an ATW, if you desire, or string them as a 2 piece, which is what I normally do. As matter of fact, I string almost everything 2 piece, and string them all top down, as even though some manufactures say it's okay bottom up,(like the Gamma racquet that the OP posted here), I still string top down.Every so often I will string an ATW just to keep up my memory on the different ones I do, but they are all top down stringing, as thats the reason for ATW .

The paragraph below, is from August 2008 issue of RSI magazine, that is sent to USRSA members, and I'm sure that you will find this interesting, as this is another reason I string all Head racquets 2 piece(besides all the hybrids I string for people, I find it seldom to string as a 1 piece).I very seldom even have anyone to request either 1 or 2 piece for stringing as well. So I string most as 2 piece,(top down), tie a good cinched up knot, (and I up the tie offs tension 10%, just like a lot of tour stringers now do), and there is no problems.
Anyways here's the article:2008 RSI mag.

"HEAD requires that every performance racquet they sell must be strung two-piece, period. With a properly-done two-piece string job, you avoid not only having the crosses installed from the throat to the head, but also any potential problem that might occur with an around-the-world or box pattern, where you might have a 90- or 270-degree turn between a main and a cross, which could break through a section of the frame where the grommets are close together. Because of this, in the unlikely event there was a problem with this frame, Head would have the option of denying the warranty claim due to the one-piece string job."

 

[Lakers4Life]

Thanks for the info! I'll make a note of it.