Where is Bungalow Bill?

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Golden Retriever, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. Golden Retriever

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    Did he quit this board? I always look forward for his advices but haven't seen any at all lately. What happened?
     
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  2. tennishack1

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    He worked for Vic Braden He's the man!
     
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  3. joe sch

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    He is making more $$$ and giving away less free advice ;)
     
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  4. SFrazeur

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    Vic Braden! Impressive.
     
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  5. Mark S. Hogan

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    He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
    In case of accidents he always took his mom
    He's the all American bullet-headed Saxon mother's son
     
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  6. wyutani

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    who...:confused:
     
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  7. SuperDuy

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    A new thread now lol
     
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  8. Djokovicfan4life

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    Having one deleted wasn't enough for you, Superduy?

    Come back, Bungalo Bill.
     
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  10. SFrazeur

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    While I do not recall making the post above, at all. I would assume I made it being sarcastic.

    -SF
     
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  11. SystemicAnomaly

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    Maybe so, but he helped a great many ppl on these boards and put a good deal of considered effort into his posts. 'tis a shame if you could not appreciate that.
     
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  12. Thud and blunder

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    I very much appreciated his contribution, but it seems like almost every thread he was involved in ended up with a punch-up. Now this could possibly have been at the instigation of other contributors, but if you're getting into a scrap every time you leave the house, it's reasonable to conclude that the issue is you.

    The guy was super-insightful, but even his issues had issues. Having said that, it would be great to see him back :)
     
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  13. larry10s

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    as you mentioned in one of your posts about sometimes feeling you talk to the wall trying to help ,taking the time and it lands on unappreciated ears. maybe BB felt that way too. i know i learned alot from him.
     
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  14. mikro112

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    He's not banned so I assume he absence is by choice.

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    ...............
     
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  16. Power Player

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    I liked BB but he melted down way too easily. Many times over misunderstandings. Maybe he has some stuff going on at home so you can't be too critical.
     
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  17. SystemicAnomaly

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    He did go too far at times and I called him on it more than once (especially when it seemed unprovoked or escalatory). Some heated exchanges probably should have been deleted or edited and warnings issued by the monitors but I do not believe that a banning was warranted.

    Despite the flaws, his contributions were unsurpassed on these forum pages.
     
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  18. LeeD

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    Hope he moved back to KeiIki St., LogCabins, NorthShoreOahu, and is surfing Pipe like his avatar suggests.
    But reality says he never really surfed Pipe, and stayed at the lesser breaks.
    I was living on KeiIki St. around the same time as him, knew some shapers around his house, but I surfed Pipe almost every day it broke big, and alternated with Sunset if the crowds looked intimidating in the mornings.
    People lived on the NorthShore for different reasons.
     
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  19. sureshs

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    LeeD is the new Bungalo Bill.
     
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  20. LeeD

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    Big difference is that I"m NOT a student of the game, I DO the game.
    Same in surfing, I never studied surfing, I surfed.
    In every sport, and I have some of the most extensive practical experience there, there are different paths to the top levels. All are valid, if they work.
    Every rising player needs DIFFERENT stimuli, advice, envirorment, style.
    There is NO mold that we should drive down someone's throat.
    Basketball, baseball, football, pingpong, fencing, motocross, roadracing, surfing, waterskiing jumping, bumpskiing, snowboarding, kiteboarding, windsurfing, tennis....... all at about the same level, just barely peaking into the highest level.
     
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  21. sureshs

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    ^^^^ Why don't you write a book about your life? It should be quite fascinating. Then you won't be homeless any more what with the royalities pouring in.
     
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  22. LeeD

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    NOBODY cares about an idiot who gave up a promising career in architectual engineering to become a sports nut!
    Everyone wants to hear the story of a SUCCESSFUL architect who became a great tennis player.
    Since I kinda missed the bases there, who cares about me?
    Thanks.:shock::shock:
     
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  23. user92626

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    That explains alot what happened to the board lately. :)
     
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  24. LeeD

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    Well, we were both living on the NorthShoreOahu around the late '70's....
    On the same street, really.
    His claim is surfing LogCabins, which can be a really hairy, but messy, ugly, and uncrowded break.
    I surfed Pipe and Sunset, with 3 days at Wiamea, including the day JamesJones got tubed on a 25' Wiamea wave, the first and almost only ever.
    I was trying to make my mark in big wave surfing, bringing over a 9'6", and 8'6", and a 7'4" semi gun.
     
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  25. SystemicAnomaly

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    ^ Not a surfer but loved the North Shore just the same. Lived on Oahu in the late 50s and early 60s as a keiki kane (young lad).
     
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  26. Djokovicfan4life

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    Old man surfer convention, assemble!
     
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    The biggest problem I have with visiting Hawaii is that I don't feel like leaving. Every other place in the world seems crap when compared to it.
     
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    Tennis bums and surf bums have a lot in common. Love of the sky, the air, the wind, the combat, the sheer joy of learning how to dominate and mold yourself, into something close to perfection. Only a few ever come close to nirvana, and the vast majority of the sleeping many may have a home and bed to call their own, but they will never hit a single ace, or jump a wave, or feel the zone coursing through their excited veins.
     
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  29. papa

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    Oh I suspect he finally realized that a lot of folks will pay big buck for sound sensible tennis advice, which is what he did on these boards for thousands of post over many years - did it for free but some don't recognize what they have until its gone.
     
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    he just needs to assemble all his TT posts, book complete ;)
     
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  31. LeeD

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    You'd be astounded to know I have more posts on SurferMag than I do here, and I'm loved even less than here, if that's remotely possible.
    Of course, SurferMag forums is aneven younger generation of youngsters, who don't know or care about history, who believe their generation is the last ever, and believe each and every one is unique and special to the world.
    They can't stand to believe anyone saying it's been done before, and it will be done again.
     
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  32. TenniseaWilliams

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    Posting isn't an accomplishment all by itself.

    BB contributes to the forum, which deserves respect. Personally, I'll put up with a lot of "character" if the goods get delivered.

    I even cut slack for good intentions, I can use the pavement.
     
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  33. fluffy Beaver

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    You live to make people hate you? Awesome !!
     
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    Insulting people, taunting them, causing dust ups, being nasty, all marks of a keyboard coward. Do any of you think, he would have behaved so badly, in front of all the hundreds people he disrespected, if they were in his physical presence, and therefore, placed himself at risk of some real retaliation, rather than hide behind the internet phone wires? He broke all kinds of rules, and in my opinion, was probably no better than a 4.0 player. If the rules were followed, he would have been banned for the thousands of insults, the arrogance, the taunting, etc.
     
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    I have often praised his contributions to the forum, but was disturbed when I saw for myself the way he handled certain challenges.
     
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  36. Djokovicfan4life

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    We get it, you don't like him. Why do you feel the need to say it over and over? Does it make you feel good about yourself or something? BB was banned temporarily, btw. It's not like the mods have just looked the other way the entire time. You don't just ban an experienced coach from an instruction forum. We get enough misguided advice here as it is.
     
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  37. papa

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    BB joined this forum about the same time I did - six or seven years ago. His posts (probably in the 12,000 - 13,000 category) were always very detailed, complete and well thought out IMO.

    His opinions came from studying this game for many years and he was/is passionate about stroke analysis and the history of the game. His professional background in the sport was/is also well founded although some here want to criticize credentials as meaningless.

    Did I agree with him every time, no. We had/have some differences over various issues but for the most part, he was/is right most of the time. He openly admitted his weaknesses in certain issues like rules and strategy - it wasn't that he didn't know them but again strokes and history were more of his thing.

    I also though that many discussions got sidetracked at times but people/instructors/coaches (yes, he was USPTA certified) are all different and we take different paths or use a variety of approaches to teach.
     
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  38. Bungalo Bill

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    Well insulting people goes both ways. You don't think I have been insulted? If you can't handle it, maybe you ought to go talk to your parents about it. Maybe you need an internet timeout. I can't tell you how many times I answered an OP's post only to have someone like you insult, degrade, or try to discredit my post and had no substance or facts to back the claims made. Ever think about that? Or is it just a one way street for you.

    There is no doubt I will debate anyone here, and will go as far as it needs to go. If the rules were followed all of us including you would have been banned.

    But you need to be completely fair about this. Hundreds, no thousands of posts and the "debates" that insued were not started by me. If you think that I started them all, you are are being unreasonable and need to go back and read them.

    What bothers you is this:

    1. I am confident and know what I am talking about.

    2. I will say what I am talking about in detail, provide examples, and support what I know.

    3. I am not afraid to say I am wrong, however, you better be right and back it up.

    4. I can't stand nonsense such as when a player says "nobody needs to work on their footwork", or all you have to do is "run" to the bal, and crazy stuff like "topspin" is overrated.

    5. If you do challenge what I write, I don't mind it, I like debating! Especially when the emotions start stirring up. You just better know what you are talking about.

    The other thing that you are not correct on is it isn't hundreds of people that I challenge. It is only a few. So quit exaggerating.

    What we need here is people with spines. Not people who cry because someone ruffled their feathers. We need common sense and not idiotic retoric that leads people to mediocrity and is limited to only a players personal experience with one bad situation or one bad coach.

    If you don't like what I say, you have an ignore button. Otherwise? Hahaha, well...you know...
     
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  39. W Cats

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    Good to know you are alive and well. Welcome back:):)
     
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  40. Bungalo Bill

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    Sorry, I havent been on the boards of late. Got hit with a lot of work and am involved with my daughters volleyball and my son's little league stuff. I also got some other stuff (studying) going on so, I have limited time.

    Glad to see all is well and the ever so controversial Bungalo Bill still lives. :)
     
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  41. Power Player

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    Yes..BB returns!
     
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  42. smoothtennis

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    Welcome back BB!
     
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  43. Bungalo Bill

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    I lived on the North Shore between 1979 - 1986.

    I lived in what was known as "the Wave Cave" across the Shell station as you entered Haleiwa for about 2 years before the house was condemned. Next to our house was Country Surfboards which is no longer in business. We had our glassing rooms in the back and glassed surfboards for Local Motion and other underground shapers in the area.

    After the house was condemned, I lived in a house directly in front of Gas Chambers right smack on the beach. Rocky Point was to our right and Pupukea was too our left (the Hawaii Five-O wave). About three rock throws down was Pipe. When the North Shore started up with professional surfers coming to town, we often hooked up with Aussie surfers and played tennis at the Turtle Bay Hilton when the waves sucked.

    I did surf Log Cabins but it was always an off and on break. When it got big an narly with the right swell direction, it was awesome. Otherwise, inconsistent. My favorite break was Gas Chambers lefts. I loved the challenge of racing the wave and then kicking out just before you could have slammed into the rock that suddenly appeared. It was a thrill.

    My avatar is me surfing my favorite break. I surfed all over the island (west, north, south, and east). My favorite breaks were:

    1. Publics (southshore on a big day)

    2. Gas Chambers Lefts (north shore medium size day, otherwise it closes out)

    3. Rock Piles (Northshore about 6 - 8 feet)

    4. Marijuanas (medium sized day or it closeout)

    5. Jockos (any size, this break is next to Chuns')

    6. Power plants (westside)

    Bodysurfing:

    1. Sandy beach

    2. There was a break inbetween log cabins and sharks cove that I forget the streets name.

    I have surfed all over Oahu but the above were my favorite. I also surfed up and down the California coast, Mexico, and South America. I have surfed New Jersey and Florida.
     
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  44. Djokovicfan4life

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    I never would have guessed. :)
     
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  45. sureshs

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    The answer to the question posed by the thread is now available: the answer is he is here!
     
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  46. Bungalo Bill

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    Haha, I know. :)
     
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    Welcome back BB.

    r,
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  48. mtommer

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    Aye, but that's just youth for any given generation for the most part.
     
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  49. Jim Hendricks

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    BB, glad you're back. Look forward to your posts. It is the best advice I've gotten. Thanks, Jim
     
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  50. larry10s

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    welcome back BB. look foward to your posts.
     
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