Which player is more likely to win a slam in 2013, Nadal or Federer?

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Which player is more likely to win a slam in 2013?

  1. Nadal

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  2. Federer

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  1. RAFA2005RG

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    Nadal is going for the record, 9th straight slam-winning year. He tied the record in 2012. I think Nadal will win 2-3 slams in 2013. Federer had a long drought from 2010 AO to 2012 Wim, and I see another drought concluding his career now that Murray has figured him out.
     
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  2. zam88

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    good question.

    If nadal shows up even 80% in form, it would take a really spirited effort by Djoker if he even made the final to beat him but i wouldn't consider him a highly serious threat for the other 3


    But with Feds, in the 3 slams that it's possible for him to win - AO, Wimbledon, USO.. he's like the 2 behind the 1a/1b combo of Murray and Djoker.

    on grass Federer is better than those 2... but murray is getting damn close.... and Djoker could definitely beat roger on the right day as well.

    And then we've got DelPo coming strong for a slam too... that kid is a threat on almost any of the surfaces also... has a USO, took roger to the brink at Wimbledon... only injury stopped him from beating Roger at RG
     
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  3. Mike Sams

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    Nadal will be lucky to win RG.
     
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  4. Doubles

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    NSK is relying on the fact that Nadal will even return this year.
     
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  5. tudwell

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    It's really, really tough to say right now. We need to see how Nadal plays when he returns. Plus, Federer is playing four slams opposed to, at best, three for Rafa, and he's the number two seed while Nadal will drop to number five after the Australian Open. If Nadal's still number five by the time the French and Wimbledon roll around, it could make his draw a whole lot tougher.
     
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  6. Clarky21

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    Federer by a country mile.
     
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  7. forzamilan90

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    Federer, since the French Open is the only realistic slam Nadal can win. Fed has a great chance at Wimbledon and US Open, plus although not the favorite could win the Australian Open
     
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    A big part of success is showing up. So Roger.
     
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    Both guys better watch out for Soderling 3.0. With more time off than any other top player on tour recently, his training regiment will pay giant dividends in the form of instantly winning any slam he contests for a period of at least 2.4 years, until his competitors catch up with his level of play. What else would happen when the guy who blasted prime Nadal and Federer at Roland Garros waits until he is absolutely 100% to come back?
     
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  10. Steve0904

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    I said Nadal because even though his only realistic shot as of now is RG, he's more of a lock to win it if he shows up in half decent form. Also, never thought I'd say this, but NSK has asked a good question here.
     
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  11. edmondsm

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    So the choice is between:

    Federer: Finished 2012 very strong with a win in his home tournament and a run to the finals in London.

    Nadal: Hasn't stepped on the court in more then 6 months and still says his knee doesn't feel good.

    This is a tough one.
     
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  12. Fiji

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    Roger Federer.
     
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    i thought he got beat at basel, no?
     
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    I'd normally say Federer, however, the fact that Nadal is so good on clay (miles ahead of anyone else on tour at RG), he could easily comeback and win FO2013. Federer, meanwhile, would need a favorable draw to win any of the four slams this year, I feel.

    So I vote Nadal.
     
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  15. zagor

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    Nadal, as long he steps back on court he's the overwhelming favourite for the FO, Fed isn't the favourite for any slam anymore.
     
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  16. edmondsm

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    Whoops, you're right. Very close match though eh?
     
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  17. cknobman

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    Well currently my vote is the guy who is actually been playing tennis for the last 8 months and not sidelined with an injury.
     
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  18. Gonzo_style

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    Nadal won 7/8 RG, but we don't know in what kind of form he will be, Federer will have a good chance in Wimbledon...it's hard to tell
     
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  19. jokinla

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    That's a little more sensible.
     
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    Nadal. If he manages to show up for the FO(and that is a big if right now) he is still the favorite to win it imo whereas Federer is not the favorite to win any slam any longer imo.
     
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    Come on, cc. You should have more faith in your guy. He's still right up there with the younger guys, and is still a threat at the slams. Don't cut him so short.
     
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  22. cc0509

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    I did not say he can't win a slam, I said he is no longer THE favorite.
     
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    So Nadal, if he had absolutely no match play prior to the FO, would be the favorite after sitting out for close to a year?
     
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    Maybe, but he's a bigger threat at the slams than Nadal is by far. At least he's playing, and still putting himself in contention. Nadal, otoh, is partying in a club somewhere in Mallorca drinking himself silly. Lol.
     
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  25. zagor

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    Coming from you Clarky, this is hilarious.

    CC0509 is right, at this point Fed is only favoured to win Cincy, as long as Nadal doesn't skip the CC season he's far more likely to bag another FO than Fed is to win any of AO, Wimbledon or USO.

    Eh, yes?
     
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    Yea Murray finally figured out that no matter how well he plays he loses to Federer each time when it matters.
     
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  27. cc0509

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    yep.................
     
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    No way. He has not played a single match since last June, and hasn't even practiced a solid month since then. How on earth could he possibly be the favorite? Especially with Cvac in the draw?
     
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    What's hilarious about it? Fed is GOAT and is still out there playing at a very high level at 31 years old against guys 6+ years younger than he is. He is also healthy and never gets injured. Fed fans should have more faith in him.
     
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    I don't understand how Nadal is predicted to be the outright favorite at RG without any match play beforehand. While I still wouldn't bet against him, there's no way I would bet on him either.

    It would take some solid warm-up tournaments to get back into the speed and intensity of competitive play for anyone, including Nadal.
     
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    He is definitely the GOAT but even GOATS get older. I think it is possible Federer can win another slam or two, but he is not THE absolute favorite and has not been for a few years. Nadal otoh can stroll into the FO a couple of weeks before and still be the favorite there. He just won the FO last year and just won everything in sight in the clay season! Hard to see how he is not the favorite on clay.
     
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    Not on clay. On other surfaces, yes you are correct.
     
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  33. mistik

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    :):) you just love to exaggerate dont you ?? Clay courts can be the most difficult surface to win matches when your stamina and power not as good as it used to be. On clay you have to earn every point you cant even serve your way out of the trouble in every game or something.
     
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  34. veroniquem

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    Er, ok, but it's Nadal we're talking about here... If you can't tell the difference between Nadal and anyone else on clay, I can...
     
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    Nadal isnt machine and he already not looking invincible on clay since 2008.
     
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    He's still way past his best days though. If he has a good day he can still bring it, but it's getting likely that he will be less and less consistant. He's now even losing in WTF finals..INDOORS. There is no safe haven for him just some events where if he brings his best form he has a shot.
     
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    Not when you are Nadal, a seven time winning FO champion! If Nadal was 29 or 30 it would be a different story.

    You bet for whomever you wish to win the FO this year, if Nadal is living and breathing and participating in the tournament, I will pick him.
     
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  38. veroniquem

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    Invincible enough to have won almost everything on clay since then (and when didn't he make a red clay final other than RG 2009??).
     
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    I'm with you on that. Love the way you express it too!
     
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  40. mistik

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    Nadal will be 27 during this year RG. A guy who won his first major age 19 is already way older than the likes of Djokovic and Murray in tennis terms.
    Plus he is out of the game more than 8 months.THİS is NO JOKE.İt isnt all that important how dominant he used to be. He has to play some serious matches and tournies in order to have any chance in this year RG.
     
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    Well for the life of me I can't understand how anybody could doubt Nadal, even a not 100% fit Nadal on clay. Eventually Nadal will lose the FO to somebody as he gets older but I don't think that time has come quite yet (unless Nadal retires in the very near future.)
     
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  42. mistik

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    Rafa is fortunate to win 2011 RG.He already showed he is vulnerable that year.Dont be also obsessive about the results.Rafa at his best is the most gifted player on clay but that doesnt mean he is as strong or fast as he used to be.I can only see him favorite if he plays well before RG.
     
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  43. veroniquem

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    IMO, Rafa is the most gifted on clay even not at his best. Sod had to play the match of his life at RG 2009 and Rafa was about 50%.
     
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    Hahaha remember 2009. He even said he wasnt feeling as bad as he was in Rosol match.He lost to match in 4 sets,couldnt even push for the decider.
     
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  45. veroniquem

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    IMO, that's because he played a lot in 2009: won AO, IW, Rotterdam final and all the clay finals. He was worn out. That would never happen to a fresh Rafa and when Rafa gets back, he will be completely fresh.
     
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    Not being at your best is one thing to be out of the game 8 months is another. Unless he showed some good signals before this year RG,he wont be the favorite at all.
     
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  47. veroniquem

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    OK, well, it's obvious I won't convince you but we'll see. Let's bump this thread after Rafa comes back.
     
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  48. Sabratha

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    I'm going to say Federer.
     
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  49. mistik

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    I dont think he will comeback as well sadly.
     
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  50. cc0509

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    What I am trying to say is this: If Nadal comes back and steps on a tennis court to play a tournament he will be ready to compete. I also don't think he is as injured as he is claiming and think there is likely something else going on with him (not knee injury.) :shock:
     
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