Which Players use Paintjobs?

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  1. rafabull

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    I already know that Roddick and Nadal use specially painted racquet's. I know that there are others out there, I was just wondering who? Or is it only a "Top Player" thing?
     
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    I have only seen one ATP pro playing a retail Head racquet in person.

    Of course I assumed it was a retail MG Prestige MP because it had a retail buttcap. The buttcap could have been replaced it could still have been prostock.

    I would be nearly certain that all Head pros are playing prostock frames, either PT's or TGK's.....

    The other brands are more of a mystery to me so I can't comment.
     
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  4. BreakPoint

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    Even some juniors and college players use paintjobs. The manufacturers make paintjobs widely available to players that they sponsor at all levels.
     
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    Jankovic's Prince is not a Black, Bryan's Rebels are not what it seems, Verdasco's Biomimetic is actually his old Major...the thing has been discussed "ad libitum"... ;)
     
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    You'll get shorter list if you ask: which players do not use pj's? ;)
     
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  7. junk

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    simple answer - all of them!
     
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  8. chrischris

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    Del Potros pj stands out IMO.

    What a discontinued line of Wilson rackets paint is doing in the hands of this great player and talent i cant understand.. he should at least be wielding a BLX paint job, no?
     
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    wilson dont wanna be suspicious:p
     
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  10. Peng Shuai does NOT use a Head YouTek IG Extreme
     
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  11. flashfire276

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    Here's an question with a smaller list of answers:
    Which player's DON'T use paintjobs?
     
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  12. rafabull

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    Only people I can think of at the moment are Isner, Federer and Tsonga. Maybe Ferrer and Soderling too but I'm not sure.
     
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    john isners is stock
     
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    ^^^Isner's is a paintjob.
     
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    When he was playing Rafa in the 1st round of RG he was using a Prince O3 Black when he endorses the EXO3 Black.
     
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    ^^^Paintjob.
     
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  17. Devilito

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    The majority of pros on tour use retail racquets. Only the top few you see on TV all the time use paint jobs and pro stocks etc. Most players at Challengers or Futures use retail racquets they get for free from their sponsors. Heck, a huge chunk of these players don’t even customize them to the extent people do on this forum. Some guys I’ve talked to playing some lower level ATP events haven’t even heard of pro-stock and paint jobs etc. They were like, "WTF are you serious?"
     
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    ^^Nearly every racquet I strung at the Delray ATP International this year was a paintjob.
     
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    I’m talking about players from like a 300 rank to 1500 which comprise the majority of players. So i don't see what Del Ray has to do with anything as it's only a small elite pool of players that even play ATP250 and higher events.
     
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  20. drakulie

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    Here is what you said:

    None of the "top few" you just referred to were at the Delray International Tennis Tournament and like I said, they all had paintjobs.

    One more thing, many college and even juniors have paintjob frames or "special layups". I would know being that I string for many of them.
     
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  21. Devilito

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    that's fine i'm not going to argue with you. I'm just speaking from my limited experience and i definitely miss worded my original post. Lots of guys I’ve talked to and played with running around scooping up a point here and there don’t use PJs, don’t use pro-stock, don’t have private stringers, don’t have their sponsors following them everywhere they go, and usually pay local pro shops to string their racquets for them, have cracked bumpers, some even have cracks in their frames and just get stock stuff sent to them periodically. To me that’s the average guy on tour. I’m glad every college player even has Paint jobs. Even the local under 14s have paint jobs now too right? Must be a new thing…
     
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    ^^I didn't say that all college players and juniors have paintjobs.
     
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  23. Devilito

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    you're a stringer your experience is greater than mine. I definitely put my foot in my mouth talking in general terms. Lots of people on this forum are stuck on pro stock and paint jobs and frames that i rarely see good players actually use first hand. Maybe it's more prolific based on local or maybe it's something that's newer and trending. Obviously top 100 players get a different treatment than guys floating in the 300-1500 range do.
     
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  24. rafabull

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    To end this argument I actually just got a sponsorship deal with Dunlop and they are giving me a AeroGel 500 with a Biomimetic PJ. Apparently they have specially painted rackets on hand all the time, as other companies do I assume.
     
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  25. Devilito

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    Sounds more like Dunlop unloading old stock by PJing them as new frames and handing them out to sponsored players than actively PJing a frame for a top player that doesn’t want to switch to a new Dunlop. Did you specifically ask for an AG500?
     
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  26. rafabull

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    Yea, personally I like it a bit better than the Biomimetic, and I was already used to it. They told me with a Players Preferred Package they don't bother giving out PJs since the marketing isn't as wide spread with lower ranked players. I don't think they specifically painted it for me. Like I said, they must have them pre-made for people that don't want to switch to the newer frames.
     
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  27. Devilito

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    Fair enough. It sounds like the consequence of releasing new models every couple of years this is a new thing. Back in the 90s you'd have the same frame sold over a 10-20 year span and this was definitely unheard of. Never even heard of this from Head, Prince or Wilson. When you got a 6.1 Classic or a Pro Tour 630, it was actually those racquets amazingly enough and not a paintjob of w/e they were pushing at the time. I know a handful of futures players that use APDC, Yonex RDIS 100mp, Pure Drive, 6.1 Tour and another using a Pure Storm… and amazingly enough those are actually the racquets they use with corresponding stock paint jobs. Maybe they got the short end of the stick somewhere
     
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  28. come on lleyton!

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    Drakulie, who in college plays with paintjob/pro stock rackets? thats really news for me, interesting to see if the college players are able to get their hands on these frames too without high atp rankings.
     
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  29. rafabull

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    Yea idk maybe it's just a thing Dunlop is strict about. A couple of my friends who are higher ranked have deals with Head and they use original PJs.
     
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  30. Montanes uses a PJ of the Exo3 Tour
     
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    So do any of you know what some of the most popular stock frames are from all the manufacturers that players who receive frames with paint jobs request, especially some of the bigger named players? Im curious as to whether there are a few racquets from previous generations that have become overwhelmingly popular amongst players
     
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  32. The Wreck

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    I've noticed several Prince sponsored players actually play with retail rackets. At least, I think so. Just look closely at the shape of the holes and if they're square, most likely it's the actual EXO3 they are playing with...

    I find the college players using PJs a bit surprising. I've looked at several up close and they don't strike me as paint jobs, but I don't know that I was that discerning either. I could see it being a thing that happens, but not exactly widespread (not that anyone said it was).
     
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  33. kiteboard

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    I bought 8 of them from a college player. Also pallets, butt caps, bag.
     
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    The last thing I want to do is to shoot down your credibility, but, as somewhat of an insider on how DSquad functions, I find this incredibly difficult to believe.

    Shoot me an e-mail: mweller23@comcast.net

    If Dunlop really has started doing this for their fairly-high ranked juniors (as I can gather from your posts), I'd be shocked.
     
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    without getting into names, I could tell you a lot of Head Frames ,,,,,,PT57 series, and TGK series of frames. From Wilson, H22's.
     
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  36. BreakPoint

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    One of them has to the Wilson PS 6.1 Classic. Many pros still use them today and many have been using them all along even though they were discontinued at retail in the late-90's. Another is the Wilson HPS 6.1 95.

    From Head, there are the Prestige Classic, PC600, PT280, and PT630.
     
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  37. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I find this incredibly hard to believe, no offence.

    Mind you, I never thought to ask and I really like the Bio 200s I use.
    (I don't even know what my 'package' is called but they give me stuff so wa-hey I say!!!)
     
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  38. rafabull

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    //67+532
    In the e-mail it said the AeroGel would include updated cosmetics and since the Biomimetic is the most recent Dunlop line I assumed that that was what it was gunna be. They were pretty short and vague when answering my questions anyways so I didn't ask too many. The rackets haven't arrived yet so I haven't even seen the cosmetics yet so maybe I was too quick to say it was a PJ. I personally don't care about what my racket looks like and I wouldn't lie about something like this. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
     
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  39. martini1

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    What happens when a player switched sponsor? I suppose the manufacturer would not paint somebody else's frame into their own PJ, right?
     
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  40. flashfire276

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    Believe it man. Not only is Dunlop one of the easiest companies to get sponsored, they certainly give out PJed racquets.
    My friend is a junior pro, and she travels around the world to play at junior opens, and get international points. She's sponsored by Dunlop, Adidas, and Lacoste.
    Her weapon of choice is a Max 200G. And believe it or not, it's painted like a Bio 200. Of course, that giant throat gives away that racquet appearance.
    I know, you guys want pictures, because nothing on this thread is believable without pictures! I haven't seen her a while because of school and her always moving around. But as soon as I can get a hold of her, I'll definitely get some shots of that racquet!
     
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  41. BreakPoint

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    Now this is too impossible to believe since the Dunlop Max 200G hasn't been manufactured since 1992 and none could have been made since because there was only one factory in the world (in England) that produced them and that factory was closed down in the early 90's and all the manufacturing equipment was dismantled.
     
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    anderson uses a prestige painted like a youtek speed mp
     
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  43. flashfire276

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    What about Head? They have super classic molds like Prestige Classic 600s and Pro Tour 280s back in their Austria plant, and they still send out prostocked racquets.
    The racquet can be old, be the mold can easily be remade, right?
     
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  44. BreakPoint

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    Not with the Max 200G because that frame was Injection Molded, which is a very unique and expensive manufacturing process that was done by Dunlop in only one place. That place no longer exists and the special manufacturing equipment required to do injection molding no longer exists. There haven't been any injection molded frames made anywhere in the world in almost 20 years, AFAIK.
     
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  45. rafabull

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    Rackets just came from FedEx and they are definitely paintjobs.
     
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  46. vsbabolat

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    Lets see some pics of this "Max200G". You do know the Max200G was only 81sqin, was 18x20 with shared holes, with only 6 mains in the bridge, and are grommetless.

    View of some of the shared holes and the 6 mains in the Bridge
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    View of the grommetless Max200G
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    The throat or yoke of the Max200G is very small. You can't even fit a tennis ball in that throat like you can on most racquets even from that era.
    [​IMG]
     
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  47. rafabull

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    I'm not the same guy who said he used a Max200G with a PJ. Look further back in the thread you'll find his posts
     
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    Sorry about that. Fixed it.
     
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    Drakulie, if you happen to see this, I generally don't get involved in these conversations and generally stick to writing basic answers to problems where possible, and perhaps a few "unnecessary/foolish" posts in the past, but this time, I have to ask you: Beyond the interest of who uses what, is there anything you've learned from these racquets that I can apply in customization beyond the basics always talked about?
     
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