Which Syn Gut and Poly to get?

Discussion in 'Strings' started by Ronny, Oct 14, 2007.

  1. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Hey, I'm thinking of getting a reel of Syn Gut and Poly to stock up for the long run right now seeing that the AUD is peaking:D . The problem is I don't know which ones to get. For syn guts, I have a list of Gosen OG Sheep Micro, Wilson Extreme Syn Gut, Prince Syn Gut Multi, Prince Syn Gut Original/Duraflex, Pro Supex Syn Gut, Babolat Attraction and Attraction Power. For the polys, I'm thinking of, Pro Hurricane Tour, Big Ace, Touch Turbo, Competition, Klip K-Boom, Klip Hardcore, Pro Line 1/2, Red Code, Cyberflash, Pro Hurricane, Tecnifibre Spinfire, Polystar Energy, Luxilon BB Alu Power(both rough and normal) and Gosen Polylon. I know those are pretty long lists but I just want to be sure about my final decisions. I'm going to be hybriding them together with the mains having the poly and the crosses having the syn gut. Can anyone who can help me with this decision or anyone that has any experiences with these strings, please reply to this thread.

    Thanks.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2007
    #1
  2. Stan

    Stan Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2005
    Messages:
    1,037
    IMO the best copolymer currently available is the Weiss Silverstring. The Scorpion is also very lively if you are looking for a little additional zip.
     
    #2
  3. PROTENNIS63

    PROTENNIS63 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,722
    From the list you have, I would get gosen og sheep micro and big ace as those seem to be the most popular right now.
     
    #3
  4. Bundey

    Bundey Professional

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2007
    Messages:
    1,123
    The only one of these that I have tried is the Gosen OG sheep micro. I really liked that a lot, so get it.
     
    #4
  5. lilxjohnyy

    lilxjohnyy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2007
    Messages:
    1,759
    Location:
    Somewhere Over the Rainbow
    i chose gosen and cyberflash for my self
     
    #5
  6. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    I've played all of the strings on your list, and I'd go with Babolat Attraction (NOT Attraction Power, which is very different) followed by Gosen OG Sheep among the synthetic guts. Among the polys, I still like Luxilon BB Alu Power the best, although Touch Turbo, Pro Hurricane and Red Code aren't bad. Again, note that even though they have similar names, Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour play quite differently.
     
    #6
  7. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Did you play with them in hybrids or full set-ups?
     
    #7
  8. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    I have also heard that Attraction has pretty bad durability and tension stability. Is that true? Also, which Gosen syn gut would you recommend? Gosen OG Sheep Micro Super or Gosen OG Sheep JC or just regular Gosen OG Sheep Micro? Which gauge would you recommend too?
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2007
    #8
  9. shojun25

    shojun25 Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,492
    Location:
    Irvine, CA
    Do not get Wilson Extreme and both Babolat Attraction (I haven't played with Attraction Power, but it is a rip off for that price). They lose tension way too fast. I have not tried Pro Supex Syn gut, so I cannot help you out there. If you are looking for an average string that is cheap, get OG Micro; it doesn't have any special characteristics, except that it is a low powered syn gut. I would recommend getting Prince Multi if you want more power, and an enhanced feel when you are hybriding it (thus, look at my set up). I would rather choose Prince Original than Duraflex because of the feel; textured strings are not for me.

    I have not tried Klip K-boom and Hardcore, Big Ace (however, I have heard that Big Ace is a great polyester), Technifibre Spinfire, Pro Line I, and Polystar Energy. Both Pro Hurricanes have a softer feel than regular polys; the only difference with the two is that the Tour version loses more tenion than the original (IMO). Touch Turbo is great the first week, but it just dies after that; I do not recommend getting this string. Competition, Red Code, ALU Rough, and Polylon are pretty good polys with that original stiff poly feel. I do not recommend getting Polylon because it looses tension way too fast. Pro Line II is very comfortable in the arm and it has great feel. ALU Power is a power string fitted for baseliners. Cyberflash is my favorite string so far - it has great feel, tension maintenance, and control; it is also low powered so I can whack the ball as hard as I can (not literal).


    Overall, If you have a low-budget, get both Gosen in reels. If you have a medium-budget, get the Prince strings for syn gut, and Cyberflash and Big Ace for polys. If you have a high-budget, just get Natural Gut and a poly of your choice ;)
     
    #9
  10. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    I'm thinking right now of a hybrid with either Pro Hurricane or Pro Hurricane Tour in the mains with Attraction or Conquest in the crosses. Do you think that it'll be a good set-up?
     
    #10
  11. rum02

    rum02 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    260
    Location:
    somewhere down south
    I was sorta in the same situation as you ronny, Australian dollar peaking and i wanted to get a poly and synthetic gut reel while I could cheaply. The advise I would give you is try a string in a set before you by the reel. Just because everyone on this forum recommends a certain string, it doesn't mean that you will like it. I eventually opted for a reel of spinfire and a reel of gosen og micro, both in 17 gauge. Polys i've tried: Cyberflash, Sppp, pro hurricane and none were significantly better than spinfire. nylons I've tried: gosen og sheep, prince duraflex. og wins.
    ps. Did you end up stringing your racquet with redcode?
     
    #11
  12. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Yeah....long story short, my mum accidentally took the wrong strings to the stringer but its doing pretty well
     
    #12
  13. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Also, what racquet do you have??
     
    #13
  14. downdaline

    downdaline Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    917
    Pro hurricane x Attraction = Softer feel

    Pro hurricane tour x Conquest = Stiffer feel

    Pro Hurricane from my experience is much softer than the tour version, so i'd recommend that. Attraction doesnt last long, especially in terms of tension maintenance, so i'd go with Conquest. Conquest isnt exactly any better than Attraction, but at least it's cheaper with similar qualities.

    Also, i've found that if using Pro hurricane Tour in the mains seems to eat into softer crosses (eg. Attraction, XCel Premium), so beware.
     
    #14
  15. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Okay, then what would you chose instead of Attraction? Xcel? OG Sheep?
     
    #15
  16. rum02

    rum02 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    260
    Location:
    somewhere down south
    babolat pure storm (not the new model, the one before that) at the moment. xcel premium, gosen sheep, biphase would all soften up the stringbed well. with the og sheep @ $30 a reel you can't go wrong. I've actually tried both xcel premium and biphase in hybrids and I actually prefer the way cheaper gosen sheep. From my experience with hybrids getting strings that complement each other and not stringing the poly too high are the best ways to find your perfect string job. For instance, a tried cyberflash mains 56lbs and gosen og crosses 58lbs way too soft for me, so unless you are specifically trying to achieve softness/stiffness/power try to achieve a balance in your string properties.
     
    #16
  17. downdaline

    downdaline Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    917
    I'd go for OG Sheep 16. Lasts longer than Attraction or XCel.
     
    #17
  18. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Thanks, I'll most likely go for the Gosen syn gut but which one should I buy? Super JC 16/17? Or just normal OG Sheep 16/17?
     
    #18
  19. downdaline

    downdaline Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    Messages:
    917
    The normal OG Sheep is good enough. I honestly cant tell much of a difference between Sheep and JC (hehe, really).
     
    #19
  20. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Yeah, I can get a reel of OG Sheep for $33.50AUD and I normally pay $40AUD just for 1 RacquetFUEL string job.
     
    #20
  21. rum02

    rum02 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    260
    Location:
    somewhere down south
    yeah, labor is $20 and the cheapest strings like $20 where I live. If i get a string machine, I'll be stringing racquets for next to nothing.
     
    #21
  22. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    What characteristics of Spinfire attracted you to it and what did you think of Pro Hurricane and Cyberflash?
     
    #22
  23. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    I've played with all of them both ways, actually. Why? Generally, I prefer to use natural gut in hybrids (just my personal taste), but have tried every possible combination of the strings mentioned (full setups, as well as hybrids as both mains and crosses). Which I'd recommend for each application depends on your playing style, level and how often you break strings.
     
    #23
  24. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    I haven't found any difference in tension stability with Attraction compared to any other string in its same category. It's a solid, fairly crisp synthetic gut that seems to appeal to those who like things in the NXT/NRG/Live Wire category, but with a little added stiffness/crispness over the softest multifilaments. I like the OG Sheep JC, but if you're being totally technical, it's really the same string as the OG Sheep Micro Super, they just used to have finer controls over the tolerances and materials. The differences are negligible in terms of actual play, but the JC is probably a bit better made and more consistent. I'd say the 16 gauge makes the most sense in that string, since thinner breaks more easily, and thicker will give you less feel and bite.
     
    #24
  25. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    As for durability, I'd also say it's comparable to others in its class. It doesn't last forever, but it's not any worse, dollar for dollar, than others of the same construction/type.
     
    #25
  26. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    That's a decent setup. It'll play stiffer/crisper than pure Attraction or Conquest, if you like that. What level player are you, and what's your playing style? Do you break a lot of strings?
     
    #26
  27. rum02

    rum02 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    260
    Location:
    somewhere down south
    It's hard to put my finger exactly in on what I like about it. It is a nice and crisp poly, without being to stiff and it also has a decent amount of power (this is with a hybrid, I haven't tried a full job yet) and also I liked the feel of it, I felt I got more "feedback" from the strings with this poly. from what I've tried, I'd rate the polys in this order
    1. pro hurricane
    2. spinfire
    3. cyberflash
    4. SPPP
    Cyberflash for me lacked a bit of feel and power. Pro hurricane from memory was my favourite, being soft yet lively and responsive (although this was with xcel premium in the crosses as opposed to gosen sheep with the rest).
     
    #27
  28. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    It's kinda hard to tell my playing level since I'm in Australia but my playing style is a aggressive baseliner who likes to attack the net and has an all court game. I don't break a lot of strings seeing that I'm using poly but I break syn gut(prince syn gut w/duraflex) in about 2-3+ weeks.
     
    #28
  29. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Which hybrid would you recommend? Out of all the strings I listed.
     
    #29
  30. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    That depends on what you're trying to achieve compared to your current string setup. Are you looking for more power, more control, more spin, more durability? Usually you can't have all, so you favor certain qualities. Also, what's your current setup?

    As for level, are you playing tournaments (e.g. for rankings, etc.)? Have you played college or school tennis? Even in Australia, people are using the NTRP system now somewhat. You can check that and give a rough level idea.
     
    #30
  31. Ronny

    Ronny Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,539
    Location:
    Australia
    Yeah, I'm playing tournaments and for school. I posted a vid of myself from January last year and people said that I was a 3.0-3.5ntrp so I guess I'm now around the 4.0 level. I'm currently using full Red Code. I want a mixture of power, control and durability. I would like to have spin but wouldn't mind not having it.
     
    #31
  32. Field

    Field Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    107
    You might want to try the combo Big Ace / Spiral Flex. Right now I'm playing this hybrid and so far I like it. Going to give other hybrids (PS Matrix Hybrid, SPP Pure / Spiral Flex and Cyber Flash / Spiral Flex) in the near future a test drive as well.
    But as other already stated, at the end it's up to you :)

    Field
     
    #32
  33. sunflowerhx

    sunflowerhx Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2005
    Messages:
    230
    Location:
    Bangkok
    I am using Big Banger Original with Babolat XCel Premium.
    Very nice setup.

    My stringer says you should use a high end syn gut with poly to gain back some comfort.
     
    #33
  34. LPShanet

    LPShanet Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,618
    LOL...at least in lab terms, power and control are considered opposites, so asking for both is a little unrealistic. If you increase control, you may be able to swing harder, therefore adding more of your own power, but generally a string won't give you both. Alternately, if you increase the power of the string, that's usually associated with less control. The subjective feeling may be different, but that's what the lab says. Strings aren't magic, after all, they're a matter of physics combined with personal taste. Instead let's rephrase the question this way: What don't you like about your current setup? What is wrong (for you) with the full Pro Red Code?
     
    #34

Share This Page