Which was greater, Nadal's 3 slams in 2010 or federer's 3 slams in 2006?

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Which was greater, Nadal's 3 slams in 2010 or federer's 3 slams in 2006?

  1. Rafael Nadal's 3 slams in 2010

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  2. roger federer's 3 slams in 2006

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  1. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    In 2010, Rafael Nadal became the first man in world history to win slams on clay, grass AND hard-court all in a calendar year. His run included winning Roland Garros without dropping a set (and wiping the floor with the now-retired soderling after a 2009 loss). He won the channel slam and won the US Open title being broken only 5 times, a record shared with andy roddick, and became the youngest player in the open era to win the career grand slam (at the age of 24) and also became only the second player to win the career golden slam (4 slams + Olympic gold in singles).

    roger federer won 3 slams in 2006.

    Which was the greater achievement? :p
     
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  2. dudeski

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    It is widely agreed that Nadal 2010 success was due to easiest draws of all time. Just look at his opponents in all the slams he won.
     
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  3. FedererDropShot

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    2006 Federer.

    3 Slam wins. 1 Slam Runner-up. 1 WTF win. Basically, had he won the FO, he'd win the best thing in tennis.

    NOT JUST the Calendar Year Grand Slam but also the WTF as well.

    Same could be said for Rafa, had he won the AO but no WTF so yeah.

    The triple surface thing is great but not great enough to beat 3 slams + a WTF + runner-up at missing slam.
     
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  4. pds999

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    2010 by a mile. The competition was on a different level.
     
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  5. TMF

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    What about Fed 2004 and 2007?

    Those year Fed won the WTF which Nadal failed to win in 2010.
     
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  6. malbaker86

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    Rafa as he only dropped 4 sets those three tournaments
     
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    Nadal's because his 3 slam titles were on 3 different surfaces, which has never been done before or since.
     
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  8. FedererDropShot

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    All things being equal, let's look at the 5 key events:

    Rafa:
    AO - Quarters
    FO - Champion
    Wimby - Champion
    USO - Champion
    WTF - Runner-up (to Roger)

    Roger:
    AO - Champion
    FO - Runner-up (to Rafa)
    Wimby - Champion
    USO - Champion
    WTF - Champion

    Roger's 2006 AO outperforms Rafa's 2010 AO run by a big margin.
    Rafa's FO outperforms Roger's FO 2006 run by a small margin.
    Roger's WTF run outperforms Rafa's WTF run by a small margin.

    By the totality of the year they achieved the 3 slams, Roger wins.

    But if by JUST the 3 slams, ignoring WTF and their missing slam, Rafa's triple surface is better BUT people care so much about the CYGS so we need to take into account of the missing slam.

    (Not my fault that people like to inflate the CYGS achievement)
     
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  9. qwertre

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    Why is there no option for equal greatness?
     
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  10. FedererDropShot

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    Pretty much, equal greatness because Rafa has the triple surface achievement while Roger was a bit closer to the so loved 'CYGS'.
     
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    WTF is not a slam. Of course Fed's 2006 season AS A WHOLE is better than Rafa's 2010 but if we talk about slams ONLY, then what Rafa did is an absolute record. What Fed did (3 titles + a final) was great too of course but not a record.
     
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    WTF is the 2nd most important event behind the 4 slams. We are comparing the entire year so you can't limited to slams only. But even if you did, Roger made all 4 finals while Nadal lost in early round at the AO. Also it's been beating to a dead horse already that Roger won 90+ percentage, more single titles, consistent throughout all 4 seasons.
     
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  13. The_Order

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    The question is which was greater, Rafa's 3 slam wins in 2010 or Roger's in 2006. This has nothing to do with WTF or the performance in the 4th major.

    Pretty obvious Rafa won 3 on different surfaces, only the fed turds would choose Fed's 3 slams from 06.
     
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    No, we're comparing the 3 slams, not the whole year. Didn't you read my post? I don't care about the WTF. Otherwise, I would have asked "which year was better, Nadal 2010 or federer 2006?". But I didn't. :p
     
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  15. FedererDropShot

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    If it's JUST THE 3 slams they won, Rafa wins (sadly).

    But the problem is, since people like to overhype the CYGS... I think we should look at the performance of their missing slam too (Federer being closer to the CYGS).

    But I don't give a damn about the CYGS (I consider Sampras greater than Laver because for me, it's all about total slams). So yeah, Rafa's THREE > Roger's THREE is a fact and there's really no debate.
     
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    Pretty stupid thread, it's not which year was better or even who preformed better at the slams no it's "Which set of 3 slams is better".

    Having the 3 on all surfaces is better, though the AO and USO both played quite differently.
     
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    We can if we want to, why not. One can compare slam perfs, master perfs, streaks, specific records, overall seasons, ranking points. One can compare whatever one wants to.
     
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    No. The question is whether people are still willing to answer seriously to a broken record such as NSK.

    The answer is a big fat yes, sadly.
     
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  19. Mike Sams

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    I think Djokovic's 2011 was the most phenomenal run in the history of tennis.

    AO, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open.
    Add the semifinals of RG and the finals of Cincinnatti to that and it's ridiculous.:shock:

    Nadal's 2008 is also a great season because of his amazing run in the spring, summer.

    Monte Carlo, Hamburg, French Open, Queens, Wimbledon, Toronto, Olympic Gold.:)
     
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    With the homogenized courts Nadal basically won all three on the same surface. And he didn't make the final at the AO. And he didn't win the WTF. And he only won 7 titles that year whereas Fed won 12 in 2006...So Fed wins!
     
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    Sadly the other Nadal 'fans' are treating him like a serious poster...
     
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    But you care about the Gold Singles Medal (which is worth less in ATP points), no?

    People overhype the Career Golden Slam and CYGS too much.

    Heck, if Federer HAD achieved the Career Golden Slam + CYGS and let's say he had 19 slams. And a new guy comes along, never achieves the Career Golden Slam or the CYGS, but gets like 21 slams and gets to more slam finals... I'd take the new guy anyday.
     
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    Nadal's 2010 for sure:)
     
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    This. I think any player if they had to choose their 3 slams they won in a season would choose the 3 most prestigious.. FO, Wim, USO.

    AO just isn't going to catch up in prestige value to the other slams... although i suppose if the asian fan overtakes the US fan.. maybe it could.


    But I think Federer's 2004, 6, and 7 were all better seasons than rafa had in 2010.

    nice run for Rafa... it's cute that we have to rate his one 3 slam season.. when Fed has THREE.

    Rafa will never catch federer in multiple slam seasons... what he has 2 to Federer's 5
     
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    OP, think before making a thread. The Fed brigade will soon come here saying 2010 was a fluke since Nadal could never repeat it while Fed has 3x 3 slam years :neutral:
     
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    Because that's not NSK's plan for the thread? To vile up Federer fans. I'd wager that half the hate Nadal receives on this forum is due to people like NSK constantly being annoying.
     
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    AO - Champion
    FO - Runner-up (to Rafa)
    Wimby - Champion
    USO - Champion
    WTF - Champion

    That settles the debate
     
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  28. Vamos Rafa

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    Well considering the number of slams they won was the same, I would rate both achievements pretty much the same. Don't see the point trying to make one year sound better than the other when they were obviously both amazing years.
     
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  29. Mainad

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    IMO Nadal's 2010 Slams definitely have the edge:

    1). They were won on the 3 different surfaces (HC, Clay & Grass)
    2). The finalists, Soderling, Berdych and Djokovic were all top 10 players. (At 2006 AO final, Baghdatis was unseeded).
     
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    Baghdatis played better in that final than Soderling and Berdych...
     
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    Let me rephrase the question - In 2006, Roger Federer reached all four Grand Slam finals, winning three of them. His only loss came in the French Open final in four sets. In the other three Grand Slams of 2006, Federer defeated Nadal in the final of the Wimbledon Championships. He defeated Marcos Baghdatis, at the Australian Open and Andy Roddick at the US Open. Federer made it to six ATP Masters Series 1000 finals, winning four on hard surfaces. Also, Federer won one ATP 500 series event in Tokyo, three ATP 250 series events in Doha, Halle, and Basel, and captured the Year-End Championships for the third time in his career. His win-loss %age was 94.84.

    Rafael Nadal won 3 slams in 2010.

    Which was the greater achievement? :p
     
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    Trolls must be fed.

    And, for those non-trolls who like an intelligent discussion, "equal greatness" isn't that interesting.
     
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    Why do people even respond?
     
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    This forum has become a sh!thouse of immature Nadal *****. Once upon a time there used to be some good discussions alongside the usual trolling and namecalling. Now, it seems that's all that is left. Thanks to dedicated crazies like sureshs and others...
     
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    The combined rank of federer's opponents in the 3 finals was 65, whereas Nadal's opponents had a combined rank of 20.

    Nadal did it on 3 different surfaces something federer could never manage.

    Victory to Nadal again!
     
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  36. Apun94

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    And I am sure Rog faced GOATs on his way to victory.
     
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  37. Apun94

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    GREAT post. Agree with everything. But I think the OP is only asking about the performances in the slams... Otherwise you were spot on. And that's coming from a Nadal fan
     
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    Facing GOATS would still be harder than facing the draw Nadal did at the 2010 USO. ;)
     
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    federer 's rivals in 2006 =
    nadal,
    nalbandian,
    baghdatis ( :lol: ),
    roddick,
    davydenko,
    ljubicic,
    gonzalez,
    srichaphan ( :lol: :lol: )
    james blake
    jose acasuso :lol:

    in 2010, nadal's rivals =
    federer,
    djokovic,
    murray,
    soderling,
    tsonga,
    berdych,
    verdasco,
    ferrer,
    davydenko


    Fed's grand slam wins on 2 surfaces
    Rafa's wins on 3 surfaces


    so yes, obviously, nadal.
     
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  41. sbengte

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    Nice work, OP. Why limit to finalists alone ? I suggest you show them Fed fans further by getting the average rank of all of the 7 opponents for each of the slams won by Nadal in 2010 to prove he indeed had a Herculean draw at each slam :D
     
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  43. underground

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    OP once again owned himself with the poll. :p
     
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    Lets look at the business end (QF on) of the 2006 Australian Open and the 2010 US Open. federer's opponents had a combined rank of 80 whereas Nadal's had a combined rank of 23.

    Some people choose to ignore facts.
     
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    Oh wow... Surely not ANOTHER NSK? :evil:
     
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    Are you saying these are the players they each faced in their GS wins? I'm not sure where you arrived at these names. First of all, Nadal never played Federer, Davydenko, Tsonga or Ferrer in any of his 3 GS wins in 2010. But you did forget Gianni Mina (#655 in the world, whom Nadal faced at RG) among others.

    Federer never played Nalbandian, Ljubicic, Gonzalez, Srichaphan (not sure why you LOLed at him as he had a career high of #9), Blake or Acasuso in his 3 wins in 2006. But he did play Henman, Davydenko, Berdych and Kiefer among others. Why did you randomly pick those players to mention? Your post is an out and out lie. :shock:
     
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  47. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Having read NSK's posts, I don't think that's NSK (especially since he is a previously banned user). :mad: It looks like another alternate-account user trying to steal NSK's originality. :p
     
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  48. Rock Strongo

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    Goes on and on about the same thing every time, Writes Federer's name in lower case, I guess we have ourselves a new one.
     
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  49. King of Clay

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    Who is nsk? Thanks for defending me, I am just hear to talk tennis.

    I have been reading this forum for a while and you are one of the best posters on here. Always providing good debate, you are also very knowledgeable on tennis, like myself.
     
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    There we go right now. NSK confirmed.

    To quote TheF1Bob's signature: "NSK/Rafa2005rg/6-1 6-3 6-0/Team Nadal/VAMOSDNA - I'm not here to be entertaining, I'm here to talk about tennis."

    Saying that a troll is one of the best posters on the forum is a joke indeed. :lol:
     
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