Who are the best Freshman coming in next year?

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  1. Vicious Vik

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    What do you think?

    Giron is the best by a large margain. He will be an instant hit in the NCAA and will be a top 15 player next season in the ITA rankings.

    Vinsant is the next best, Frantagelo is ovverated and has already peaked.
     
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  2. SoCal10s

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    Mitchell Frank,Efferding,Pasha,and Withrow .. are my favorites ,, they are right up there with Giron ... all still have a lot of potential left..also Dennis M. @ UCLA if he can keep injury free..
     
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    Jack Sock is generally considered the #1 American recruit, but he's undecided on if he'll play in college. I think if any incoming player is going to shoot to the top of the rankings, it'll be him. Giron has an impressive resume, it'll be interesting to see how he fares. Don't be deluded by some of the stuff you hear on other message boards, college tennis is a step up from juniors, not a step sideways.

    Vinsant and Fratangelo are classified as juniors. They've got another year before making the college decision.
     
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  4. Vicious Vik

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    Sock will be a Longhorn if he plays college tennis. Join him with Vinsant and watch out country
     
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  5. SoCal10s

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    yes you guys know it.. I think Sock will try college tennis for a year then go pro if he dominates ,which I think he will not.. too many upperclassmen to deal with.. none will roll over and play dead..
     
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    where are these guys committed to playing (if they have)?
     
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    Giron - UCLA
    Efferding - Texas A&M
    Frank - UVA
    Pasha - UGA
    Withrow - Texas A&M

    and I'll add Gonzales Austin who is headed to Vanderbilt
     
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    agreed.. gonzales austin should be added to the list.. look out for vanderbilty and south carolina for taking huge strides in the rankings..
     
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    Sock's last quote on the matter was he was considering Texas, Nebraska (where his brother plays) and Virginia. My guess is there will be announcement about whether he's going to play in college late in the Fall semester. He has stated he'll only play one spring semester, but as we found, sometimes the hot shot juniors find the sledding a little tough in college and hang around longer.
     
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    most of these kids need to look at Devin Britton got some bad advice after winning NCAA's and went pro. He has not done much in the last year. He would have been better served staying another year.
     
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    yeah Britton made a bad decision. He kinda had a fluke run to win the NCAA's that year. He was not a top player throughout the year, he played at #2 or 3 for Ole Miss and didn't win every match and was ofetn pushed to 3 sets. He also lost to some not so great players like TCU's #2 player.
     
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    what about Steinman for Stanford ?
     
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    Britton apparently had a lot of money thrown his way to go pro. The USTA's rule of thumb is if someone is willing to put $250,000 in an account in your name only - go pro. If not, go to school. Hopefully, Britton did well enough for himself. Sometimes the deal is too good to pass up.
     
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    I didn't miss G.Austin ,same as Nick Chappell .. they play that grinding game and they're too husky to be like Nadal .. I can't see them really dominating as freshman .. but then again,I could be wrong.. I always love lefties ..
     
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    Not enough international experience at this point honestly, although it is a semi-weak argument. I've seen him play a few times, and he doesn't really seem like he has the game to hit the next few levels, but I've been proven wrong many times before, so maybe I am again.
     
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    Giron reminds me of Guillermo Gomez
     
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    I heard he has 120 + mph serves as his routine serve. that means he can hit 130mph if he continue to improve. That in itself can carry you a long way in college tennis.:)
     
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    He CAN hit that big, but he doesn't regularly (heck, I can hit that big, although you're entitled to believe me or not) from the matches I saw. Besides, there are many players in DI tennis that can also hit 120+ mph serves pretty regularly (your lover Klahn being one of them).
     
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    Yep. It's all about placement,variety and consistency on the serve. This is a big difference in college and pro. College players do not get enough free points on their serve because they are not as good at placement, mixing it around the box and disguising it
     
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    I would say that disguise is the bigger issue than variety out of those two. That's why I think Steve Johnson's serve is better than Klahn (amongst other comparisons), since he uses arguably the same ball-toss on most-all of his serves.
     
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    Anyone heard anything about where Frantagelo is going? Ohio State?
     
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    He's got another year before he decides.
     
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    real good win by M. Frank in the Vero Beach futures. Beating strode 2,1 is very impressive. only him, giron, and novikov have ATP point(s) in the 2011 class
     
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    Pasha, next


    2nd best may be Giron or Quinton Vega
     
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    Quinton vega? are you serious?
     
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    If Jack Sock decides to go to Stanford next year, this is a Lock for the NCAA championships in 2012.
     
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    Jack Sock is going pro, if not he would choose to play for the Dawgs.
     
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    no he would play for virginia, nebraska, or texas as evidenced by his tennis recruiting and numerous articles.
     
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    What about John Morrissey? International stud coming up
     
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    What about Women ??
     
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    Ellen Tsay

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  32. 10isplayer

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    beatrice capra for sure
     
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    I forgot who Stanford women's team is getting next year
     
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    I love watching Ellen play, she does things no other girl does.. she so smart and if she can improve her stroke fundamentals ,she can go pro..
     
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    Where is Nick Chappell going?
     
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    With Ellen Tsay coming in, Stanford will once again be the top ranked team for 2012 and will be favored to win it all. With Barte and Mcveigh leaving, hopefully other girls will step up and fill the void as well.

    Overall Record for Tsay against other top players: 6-4

    Date Wins Losses Score
    4/11/11 F. Altick ('12) 7-5;6-2
    4/11/11 S. Morton ('12) 6-3;6-2
    4/11/11 K. McPhillips ('12) 3-6;6-3;6-2
    9/5/10 U. Eikeri
    7-5;6-0
    9/5/10 E. Svitolina
    7-5;6-0
    8/8/10 J. Pfeifler 6-3;6-0
    8/8/10 E. Zabor 7-5;6-2
    8/8/10 J. Vrabel ('12) 6-4;6-0
    8/8/10 S. Rogers
    6-3;6-4
    8/8/10 J. Pegula ('12) 6-3;6-2
     
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  38. mikej

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    yeah, duke might not be one of the teams to beat next year with so many seniors departing this year, but they've got the best recruit coming in

    2010 US Open

    def Karolina Sprem 6-1,6-3
    def 18th seed Aravane Rezai 7-5,2-6,6-3

    then Sharapova sent her home with some bagels
     
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    Rezai isn't exactly a great player on fast courts of US open.
     
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    lol, whatever feddie

    i'm not going to argue with you about whether it's impressive that an incoming freshman has already reached the round of 32 of the us open, taking out a seed on the way

    i know you like to cause this board to be littered with such arguments that a person less mentally challenged than yourself would find laughable, but not this time

    you're right, those were pretty crappy wins for capra
     
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    Tsay's record is more impressive:

    Overall Record for Tsay against other top players: 6-4

    Date Wins Losses Score
    4/11/11 F. Altick ('12) 7-5;6-2
    4/11/11 S. Morton ('12) 6-3;6-2
    4/11/11 K. McPhillips ('12) 3-6;6-3;6-2
    9/5/10 U. Eikeri
    7-5;6-0
    9/5/10 E. Svitolina
    7-5;6-0
    8/8/10 J. Pfeifler 6-3;6-0
    8/8/10 E. Zabor 7-5;6-2
    8/8/10 J. Vrabel ('12) 6-4;6-0
    8/8/10 S. Rogers
    6-3;6-4
    8/8/10 J. Pegula ('12) 6-3;6-2
     
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  42. mikej

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    http://www.tennisrecruiting.net/player.asp?id=233780
    http://www.tennisrecruiting.net/player.asp?id=184216

    6-4 (tsay) vs 23-6 and US open rd of 32 (capra)

    yes, tsay is much more impressive

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    with the emergence of dawgie dawg and fedace's continued insanity, this marks mikej's final post under the college tennis section of talk TW

    to almost everyone on this forum -
    thanks for all the discussions, this has been a fun place to keep up with college tennis - i'll be sure to still drop in to read stuff from time to time and find out what's going on in the college game, and to laugh at the ridiculous arguments that i can think of no other way to rid myself of than to make this retirement announcement (and thus look like an idiot if i come back and post) - yes, i have very little self-control in the realm of internet arguing

    and specifically to the uva fans -
    i hope someday really soon your guys get that NCAA gorilla off their back - the moment will be that much sweeter when it finally comes now that it's abundantly clear how tough it is to win one (also i'm incredibly envious that you guys have your own forum to discuss college tennis without all the craziness of this one - i'd switch to posting over there if it weren't so UVA-centric)

    with that, i'm out - as always, go duke!
     
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  43. Clemson_tennis

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    Giron won the first round of US Open juniors. 6-4 4-6 8-6 over Sborowitz of Chile
     
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    soory meant French Open
     
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    The American boys did really well in the first round.

    Vinsant, Halebian, Krueger, Fratangelo, Giron, and Novikov all won their first round matches.

    Styslinger's the only one left to play, although he faces the two seed.

    Some good recruits in the next class, if they don't go pro.
     
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    Lauren Herring for Georgia is a good freshman coming in. She is a impact player that will make the team better right away.
     
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    Giron loses. Only American left in Roland Garros juniors is Frantagelo. Is he considering pro? Any ideas where Frantangelo may be leaning in 2 years?
     
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    If Fratangelo was smart he would chose Georgia
     
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