Who do you think uses the most gamesmanship on tour? - men or women

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  1. surfvland

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    Aside from the obvious old school guys i.e. Johnny Mac Nastase etc.

    I'm going to say Mary Pierce, and Nicky Kiefer
     
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    oh come on!What kiefer did except for that one single time?Don't be ridiculous for one to win this title,should be consistent.Nadal uses much more gamemanship with all the delayings than Kiefer does.
     
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    Rafa Nadal is the king of gamesmanship that it just seems like part of his game:D
     
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    I kind of agree. I don't think it's by design, but Nadal does a lot of little things that probably annoy some people more than contrived things. Put Novak's ball bouncing into that category as well.
     
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    Nadal for sure then Monfils
     
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    • Rafael Nadal
    • Maria Sharapova
     
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  8. surfvland

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    Kiefer is a very heady player. Watch the final with Vince Spadea in Phoenix for Vince's only ATP win. You'll see what I mean.
     
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    Agree, I've seen them both play live several times. With Rafa I don't think it's as intentional, but with Maria it's obvious.
     
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    My top three are Nadal, Sharapova and Djokovic. Nadal goes berzerk when he gets called for a time violation so the umps are scared to do it.
     
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    Anybody who's screaming last almost until their opponent hits the ball.
     
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    Nadal, then Keifer.
     
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    hey I can't find the match to watch so please can you elaborate on the gamemanship used by Kiefer?What did he do?Curse in German?
     
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    you know..you're absolutely right.
    So much sexiness in one man is almost illegal.:(
     
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    It's funny no one has mentioned Serena. I guess there's nothing you can really pin point with her.
     
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    Men
    1. Stefanek
    2. Nadal
    3. Djokster
    4. Kiefer
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    1. Sharapova
    2. Serena
    3. All the female grunters out there really
     
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    Not sure about that one. Although to me he is fairly boring to watch, Andy seems like a pretty fair person on court.
     
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    sure......when he's winning
     
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    Yes but his outburst are rarely directed at his opponent, or meant to through his opponent off.
     
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    If Maria is the only player grunting, then I can understand, but she isn't and the WS grunt just as loud as her. Wasting time is bad, but not nearly as bad as arguing with the umpire, threaten a player & line judge, demand closing the roof b/c she was losing.
     
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    Serena never demanded a roof closed when she was losing. Get your facts correct pal.
     
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    She was behind in the match at the AO when the roof was still open. So which player ask to close the roof?
     
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    Has everyone forgotten about John Mac Enroe???
     
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    ignore last post if your talking about current players, i thought it was past as well, since there has been a lot of retired players mentioned as well...
     
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    There's heat rules that regulate when the roof is closed. Everyone knows that. Serena did not ask to close the roof. Even her biggest haters will admit to that.
     
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    Yes, that was brutal. Although it was not gamesmanship, it was more just being ruthless and rude.
     
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