Who has a better chance against Nole in the final?

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Better chance.

  1. Federer

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  2. Murray

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  1. TenTan

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    Who has the better chance of beating him? Federer or Murray?

    Federer - Lost in straight sets to Nole twice here, but if he brings his A game he can trouble him.

    Murray - Lost to Djokovic in the final in 2011 and last year in a close 5 set match. Much younger and in better form than Federer.
     
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  2. Fedex

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    There was already a thread for this but it was deleted for some reason.
    Some over heated arguments possibly?
     
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  3. ruariatp

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    Murray I would've thought, though i'd love Federer to take the title :)
     
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  4. NadalDramaQueen

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    I'm not sure, but I think either of them have a decent chance, to be honest, unless they end their match 25-23 in the fifth or something. :)

    I think the fanboys are getting a little excessive about the Ferrer crushing.
     
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  5. Fedex

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    If Murray gets through he needs to get really angry and develop some good old fashioned Scottish hate and angst for Djokovic.
    He's been far too paly with Djokovic in the past being his hitting partner in 2010 and we know where that got him at AO 2011.
    He needs to hate Djokovic and the very site of him, his flat plastic hair, and his Serbian pals Troicki and Tipsarevic who keep retiring at strategic parts of tournaments to help gain their buddy an advantage.
    He needs to hate Djokovic for stealing the Shanghai final 4 MPs and Rome semi match serve game with a lucky net chord.
    He needs to think about how Djokovic humiliated him at the AO 2011 final and how he used Murray as a hitting partner previously to better his game and get to know Murray's and use that against him.
    He needs to believe all this and Lendl is the man to instill the venom.
     
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  6. mistik

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    Fed will beat Murray and he will be in the final.However AO isnt Wimbledon and ı dont give him that much of a chance in the final.Novak form reminds me 2011 as well.
     
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  7. zam88

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    djoker has lost to both of them in their latest grand slam matches.
     
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  8. NadalAgassi

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    Neither has a good chance at all, but Murray has the better of the two. Probably only 20% based on Djokovic's form and his dominance on this surface though.
     
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  9. Fedex

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    Get angry! Get angry NA I tells ya. Enough of this calm facade over analytical stuff.
    Djokovic is King Edward the first - r*pe pillage and slaughter of Scots.
    AO final is Bannockburn and time for revenge.
    I'm feeling it. That's the way.
     
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  10. heninfan99

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    Cincy 2012! You know who begaled Djoker!
     
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  11. mistik

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    Cincy fast surface AO slow.:(
     
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  12. equestion

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    As over the top as this is, I think you're onto something. I think an under-rated edge Djokovic has over the tour is he's clearly taken the time to fraternize with most of the top players. I always see Djokovic clowning around with some other player in the locker room, or trading joke tweets etc. And it's not just his Serbian friends. Just from this tournament alone Stan and Ferrer BOTH tweeted at him good luck after he ripped their hearts out. In other words, he's taken the hate out of everyone's games, except for his main rivals, who generate hate for him more out of necessity than anything else. Well, except Federer, and even he's kind of mellowed out on that.

    It's easy to say that this type of motivation is petty and shouldn't be a deciding factor, but every last advantage/edge helps.
     
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  13. Fedex

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    My first post is slightly less over the top.
    I thought at the time late 2010 how naive Murray was paling around and hitting with Djokovic when Murray was the more in form and likely player to dominate. He'd beaten Djokovic in 3 consecutive Masters finals and had the edge but still should have recognised Djokovic was a big threat and needed eliminating.
    Very naive of Murray. Lendl would never have allowed that nonsense.
     
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  14. kishnabe

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    Liberman Navirtitova tactics: Kill Novak :lol:

    Hoping Roger or Murray wins the event...Preferably Roger. Novak and Azarenka...the classless champions should not win.
     
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  15. Fedex

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    To be honest I can imagine Djokovic is a really nice guy and a lot of fun in private and it must be hard to develop a dislike and motivation to "kill".
    You would really have to keep your distance so as not to be trapped in his spell.
    Lendl did criticise Murray for being too close.
     
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  16. heninfan99

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    Gilbert & P. Mac said the AO plays faster than the outside courts of the US Open. Fed has said the AO courts are playing 10% faster this year. So...maybe they are no longer slow?
     
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  17. Clarky21

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    Nobody. He won this title months ago.
     
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  18. Fedex

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    Glad you're not Fed or Murray's motivation coach Clarky.
     
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    If he is, they would have committed suicide by now..............:twisted:
     
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    Andrew 'The Highlander' Murray.
     
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  21. Clarky21

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    Sorry, it's just the truth.
     
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  22. Fedex

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    Or just say you're going to lose anyway so no point in playing, just go home.
    Djokovic looks formidable but there's always a chance.
     
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  23. nikdom

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    Bread has the best chance OR WADA, depending on which theory you subscribe to regarding Novak's amazing recoveries.
     
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  24. Gonzo_style

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    Murray obviously...
     
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  25. THE FIGHTER

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    it will be a snoozefest either way. terrible AO in my opinion. it didnt feel special like before
     
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  26. Sabratha

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    Only because Ferrer lost.
     
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    Whichever one can slip him some gluten.:twisted:
     
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  29. THE FIGHTER

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    because there were no quality matches. the djokovic wawrinka match was barely over 4 hours long. it shouldn't even be considered a potential classic because we all know djokovic participates in suspect extracuriculars. it was boring through out the whole thing.
     
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  30. Sabratha

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    So, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga and Federer's match wasn't entertaining?
     
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    I say Muzza cause his pushing makes people sad. :(
     
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  32. Nostradamus

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    I say both. they both own Novak right now.
     
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  33. THE FIGHTER

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    no. post prime fed choking away break points is entertaining to you?
     
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  34. dr325i

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    Yep, Fed owns Novak (London) right now...
    And London was faster than this...

    I would say Murray has a good chance, better than some say on this board.
    Federer, not at AO...

    HOWEVER, I would NEVER write Fed off, so, it is not zero-chance, but I would be surprised if he gets more than a set out of Novak.
     
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  35. timnz

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    No

    A 10% speed up on extremely slow (basically clay speeds last year) results in it being still very, very slow. It really needs basically a 50% speed up.
     
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  36. RF20Lennon

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    Andrew "scot" Murray obviously but 2012 cincy roger straight sets nole screw the surface
     
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  37. Prisoner of Birth

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    I think the guy who wins the semifinal has a better chance because the other will be eliminated.
     
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  38. RF20Lennon

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    I hear if Murray makes the final Judy Murray has already asked for huge turbo fans to be behind djokovic and his shoes be made very slippery
     
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  39. RF20Lennon

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    what a genius!! they should make you head of the ITF
     
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  40. Prisoner of Birth

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    I don't do such menial jobs.
     
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