who has beaten all the big four of Golden Era?

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  1. kiki

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    While posting about Gene Mayer I thought about players who had wins over the big four of Borg, Mc Enroe,Connors and Lendl
    Mayer was one and Tanner and Vilas were the others
    Kriek never beat Borg or Lendl
    Clerc never beat Borg as neither did Gerulaitis
    Panatta never beat Mc Enroe
    Pecci never beat Mac and never faced Lendl
    Orantes never beat Lendl
    Noah never defeated Connors and Mac
    Teltscher never beat Connors
    Ramurez never beat Mac or Lendl
    Gottfried beat Borg and Lendl but I don' t think he beat The two fellow americans
    Amritraj beat all of them bar Lendl
    And of course neither Becker or Wilander got a shot at Bjorn
    Antbody can help here?
     
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    What about Fibak? he beat once Borg Mac and Jimbo but did he beat his protegee Lendl?
     
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    OMG, what a weak era!
     
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    Correction.Victor Pecci beat 1979 JMac at the much coveted Forest Hills TOC, part of the WCT calendar.He beat Connors at Roland Garros and Borg at Montecarlo.Vilas at both, Rome and Paris.But I just don´t recall he ever met Ivan Lendl.

    Incidentlly, peak time Mats in 84 needed a 10-8 last set to beat an out of form, almost retired Victor on clay.
     
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  5. 70sHollywood

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    Your boy Stockton beat 3 out 4, took Lendl to 5 at Wimbledon in 84.
     
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    Where did he beat Mc Enroe?
     
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    1978 WCT Challenge Cup - 6,4 6,2. (according to the ATP website).
     
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    thanks. Hollywood 70

    I pressumed it had to be 78 but had no idea where.
     
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    Teltscher did actually beat Connors at Chicago in 1987, after losing to him 15 times in a row before that, so he also beat each of the big 4. Borg retired after 5 games during his win over him at Hamburg in 1979, although it still counts of course.
     
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    yes.I remember Teltscher did beat Lendl at the 1980 IO QF and, of course, Mc Enroe during the round robin section of the 1981 Masters.Mac , apparently, had feasted out the night before and looked completely wasted.He was wrongly informed that he could lose to Teltscher and STILL avoid Lendl in the semis...
     
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    Kiki, you'll like this...

    Stockton beat:

    Laver, Rosewall, Newcombe, Roche, Ashe, Smith, Nastase, Orantes, Panatta, Tanner, Connors, Vilas, Gerulaitis, Borg, McEnroe.

    Who's the one top 70s player missing?
     
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    Did he beat Jan Kodes? that is the one missing.I guess he did because both played under contract the Hunt´s tour in 77...and Stockton was head and shoulders the best player of the regular tour ( and 77 Kodes was not prime Kodes)

    Stockton ws extremely dangerous when playing well
     
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    Apparently they only played twice - Indy 1970 and Philly 1974 - with Kodes winning both.
     
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    so, Jan Kodes is the only big name to never concede Stockey a match¡¡¡

    Thank ya dude.You did a big favour to the entire forum.
     
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