Who here likes rap music?

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  1. LetFirstServe

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    Well for me I'm a huge Wu-Tang fan since like 95 and even like many of their albums released after The W that not many care about and most didnt even go gold.

    But Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2 is one of the most anticipated albums in hip-hop today and I'm waiting for its release on Sept 8th.

    Here is a really good pre release mixtape put together by boy Memory Man yesterday...it spread throughout the internet like a brushfire to all the major sites and shouted Mem out on his twitter.

    I just really enjoyed this mixtape and I dont really like mixtapes.

    here it is:

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    # 1.Cuban Revolution Intro
    # 2.All That Money Is Us
    # 3.Run Away (ft. Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck, Method Man & GZA)
    # 4.Better Shoot Something
    # 5.Cipher Born (ft. Ghostface Killah & U-God)
    # 6.Get Your **** Beat In (ft. Polite, Chip Banks, Ghostface Killah & Trife Diesel)
    # 7.Slang Copulation (ft. Nas, Cappadonna & Ghostface Killah)
    # 8.Curiosity
    # 9.Iron Chef (ft. Ghostface Killah, Polite & Inspectah Deck)
    # 10.A Wise Man
    # 11.Cuban Revolution Interlude
    # 12.We Gettin' Knots (ft. Fat Joe, Armageddon & Big Pun)
    # 13.Fearless Ninjas (ft. Ghostface Killah)
    # 14.The All-Time Lineup (ft. American CREAM Team, Inspectah Deck & Method Man)
    # 15.Live Kid (ft. Notorious BIG & Ghostface Killah)


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    Oh yeah, this thread you can talk about anything hip-hop and only welcome people who like the music and not for those who want to debate racial and cultural ignorance.
     
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  2. Topspin24

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    Rap is awful.
     
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    Oh hell yeah I love rap music. Below is one of my favorites.


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  4. Claudius

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    I never heard old school rap, so I can't comment on that, but I can say rap today is awful.
     
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  5. diredesire

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    I'm not a hardcore fan of rap/hip hop, but i have been listening to a bit more recently, to mix it up from my typical repertoire.
     
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    Well good sir, although you went ahead and stated your unwanted opinion anyway I can halfway respect it. I enjoy all genres except for opera and new age country. Now that you are "chillin in Chile" you are obligated to post some good Chilean music because it's in short supply in North America.
     
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    Any music can be considered awful when it reaches its commercial peak and slightly declining.
     
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    I like electro/hip hop...check out a group called LMFAO...they are pretty funny.

    I mostly listen to electronic, but have been getting into indie/pop/electro groups like empire of the sun and others like MGMT.
     
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    I never liked it that much until about a year ago. I got kind of bored with my blues and jazz albums, and decided to get give hip-hop a chance. I really like listening to The Roots, Wu-Tang, Run Dmc, and A Tribe Called Quest. I cant listen to most of the recent stuff but there are a few, 50 Cent, some of Kanye West's stuff (before he decided the auto-tuner was the greatest thing since slice bread) is alright too.
     
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    I am in Chile to play tennis...music varies here like in america. I like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, that gives you taste of what I like. I could careless if you like Rap but to me its just awful, I can't stand it. Anyways, why is my opinion unwanted? The OP said we could post our opinion, negative or not. You couldn't handle a negative thought about what you listen to?
     
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    ^^^I handled it fine according to my reply. On a forum where its not about hip-hop people leave ignorant opinions why they hate it but you just said you thought it was awful which is fine. I was aiming for people to only reply that like hip-hop but people like to post so what the heck.

    Now what local Chilean music is good there?
     
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  12. Topspin24

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    Poop, its like pan-like flutes to regeton/rap to heavy metal.
    I don't know how to spell regattttton
     
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    nah i dont like a lot of reggaeton...mostly classic reggae and some of the newer stuff. I thought they would have had some cool latin jazz
     
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    Its not that they don't but I was showing how it varies, I'm just here to get better at tennis, not searching around for interesting music.
     
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    RHCP is one of my favorite bands, although I really dislike some of their albums, so take that for what it's worth. I'm a big fan of Counting Crows and other less-hard-rock-y bands, but as with any given facet of life, talent is talent. Rap and hip hop can be hard to listen to sometimes when you consider the garbage on the radio (I am especially not fond of the blurred lines between hip hop and R&B, and a lot of the content [read as: lack thereof] of radio "rap").

    I've been listening to some of the following:
    Binary Star, Black Star, Common, Giant Panda, Lighteheaded, People Under the stairs, Sound Providers, Talib Kweli, The Roots, A Tribe Called Quest, and (one of my favorites, because they're a little corny) Ugly Duckling. Not sure what you'd categorize my taste(s) as, but I am pretty floored sometimes when these artists come up with something incredibly clever, smart, witty, or what-have-you. Like I said, talent is talent, I have never been a huge fan of the genre, but I like a lot of these artists because they have (generally) positive messages, and very impressive talent when it comes to lyrics. I'll be biased and gravitate away from radio rap when I know better ;)

    I don't think rap/hip-hop will grab the majority of my listening time, but I listen to Pandora a lot during work, and it seems to me that Pandora tends to gravitate towards the "popular" songs that I thumb-up, so I get tired frequently of listening to the same thing over and over. I jump over towards the other side of the spectrum for something "refreshing."
     
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    ^^that was awful
     
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    I like it. I've listened to Kanye West for a while, but Lupe Fiasco is the one who brought me to like it most by not rapping about the same things as every mainstream rapper, by creating well though out lyrics, abd by having good beats. More recently, I've listened to Dead Prez, who also is really good IMO. I've listened to Wyclef Jean for a long time, but his genre is not really rap.
     
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    Rap is my 3rd favorite genre behind rock and electronic. I listen to alternative rap, a la Kanye West's first 3 albums before he got on the auto-tune bandwagon. Rap that can pay homage to its roots in blues and jazz and still be original and creative is the best.

    Most of today's rap however is fueled by corporate agendas. The lyrics always talk about having the b******, the booze, the drugs, etc. It has no soul in it and that's why I don't listen to newer rap.
     
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    I agree with your Kanye assessment. Auto-tune sucks. Have you tried Lupe Fiasco or Dead Prez?
     
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    I love Underground Hip Hop and I hate the Hip pop they play on the radio. What you hear on the radio is not hip hop it is hip pop, Hip pop is based from hip hop but it is more of pop music. I really love Underground Hip Hop and I myself am an Emcee. If you think Hip Hop is horrible you might wanna listen to some good artists, there is alot of profound, political, spiritual, and fun in the genre of Underground Hip hop. Almost all of my song contain a message I am trying get out. So I think if you listen to the right people you are well off and would most likely respect if not like the genre. By the way Vince is horrible. Also diredesire thats a good list and Letfirstserve, I am not that big fan of the WU tang but I think they are good. I was'nt listening to Hip Hop when the group was in their prime so I can't relate to the connection the group had with their audience.
     
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    It's not his only Youtube Video either. Apparently, he makes videos like that all the time (predicting he'd win the Australian Open in one). He's defeated Sampras, a young Federer (actually giving Federer one out of his only three 0-6 sets in his career), Agassi, Nadal, Roddick.

    Guy has some strange videos, like applying to Starbucks (has won $5 mill in his career).

    Maybe he and Djokovic could launch a rap album together.
     
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  24. TennisLover17

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    Yeah I like rap. I mean,alot of the up and comers today are just a disgrace (i.e Soulja Boy, New Boyz), but I'm a fan of normal Hip Hop. I like Kanye, Lupe, and Drake is really working his way to the top of the game. Never really listened to much classic hip hop, but i'm a fan of Nas, Jayz, Rakim, etc.
     
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    Alright so Underground:

    reef the lost cauze
    Skyzoo
    One Be Lo
    Blu
    Cyne
    Kenn Starr
    KNow Jaunder
    The perfect Median
    Median
    Nujabes
    9th wonder
    Edgar Allen Floe
    Bobby Creekwater
    Alpha Noise
    The Specifics
    Torea
    Quan
    Ali Vegas
    Artofficial
    Binary Star
    Dela
    Dj premier
    Reks
    The Last Emperor
    Quite Nyce & Raydar Ellis
    Luck one & Dekk
    Dilla

    Just thought i'd let you in on some of the good artists in the underground game right now. I think you'll enjoy at least 90% of these artists. If you don't, than theres something severly wrong with you.
     
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  26. revolutionary technique

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    I mean the list gose on, here are some of whom I listen to
    immortal technique
    sabac red ,
    jedi mind tricks
    , ill bill , Necro , Canibus , Jus Allah , apathy , outerspace ,QD , kool g rap , Chief Kamachi, Big Pun, Pharoh Monch, Brother Ali, Atmosphere, Rhymesayer, Eminem, KrsOne , Masta Ace, Killah Priest, Hasan Salaam, Cunning linguist, Akrobatic, 7l&esoteric, PLanet
     
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    haha I tried to name some of the more upbeat guys. I feel like Jedi Mind and immortal tech just get me really angry. Pharroahe Monche hands downs has my favorite freestyle of all time, (What it is). The freestyle is sick. I dont think i'll ever bring my self to like necro. Planet Asia is another good one. Sene and scribe make some ill tunes.

    Thomax
    LMNO
    Dl Incognito
    Understatement
    Yak Balls
    Hyder Ali
    grip H
    1773
    John Robinson
    Charlie Ross
    Blazo
    Substantial
    The good People

    I could really just keep reading through my iTunes...
     
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    I prefer Britney Spears.
     
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    I can't bring myself to listen to the hardcore underground anymore. It takes a lot of time and dedication to look for grass roots music that is not your local stuff.

    The only rappers I listen to that are still selling a lot of records on a label are Snoop and Ludacris. I find Luda has a lot of clever metaphoric lines that are funny.

    Im from Toronto so K-Os and Kardinal Offishall come first. This is the rest of the stuff I commonly listen to

    East Coast: Wu-Tang and fam, classic Duck Down and Rawkus record stuff, Tribe Called Quest, Big L, Biggie, Gangstarr and anything Primo produced, Big Daddy Kane, Jeru the Damaja, jay-Z and Nas, AZ, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Slick Rick

    West Coast: Aceyalone, Mac Dre, Dr. Dre and Snoop, Too $hort (stuff before his official retirement), The Pharcyde, Alkaholiks, the Whoridas, Ice Cube (I love his last 2 albums), Kurupt, Dilated Peoples, Dj Quik, Tupac.

    Southern: the old No Limit Records especially TRU Master P, UGK, Luda, Scarface, Cunninlynguists, Outkast, 8Ball and MJG, K-Rino, Tre-8

    *******: Bronze Nazareth, Vakill, Do or Die, Bone Thugz, Common, Tech N9ne, Hi-Tek, Twista
     
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  30. SlapShot

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    I love hip-hop, but can't stand the hugely commercial stuff.

    Hop-hop groups that I dig:

    Atmosphere
    P.O.S.
    Sims
    Buck 65
    Mike Mictlan

    Funny enough....all but one of the list are local middle-west acts. ;)
     
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    I like Wu Tang a lot, got three or four of their albums, Wu Chronicles and the like. I like Common, Cunninlynguists, Talib Kweli, early Kanye, some Jay-Z(DOA), Nas, some snoop, Biz Markie, etc.

    Favorite songs are C.R.E.A.M(course), you say he's just a friend(biz markie), DOA, Knock Knock, Gravel Pit, Liquid Swords, Protect Ya Neck, and Beautiful Decay

    Also like wolfmother, beatles, doors, rolling stones, bob dylan, marley, hendrix, etc. Listen to a lot of kinds of music
     
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    I disagree with you about Pharroahe Monche. I think he is a great freestyler but still not at the level of Supernat (supernatural). However you said he is your favorite and not the best so I can't really argue. I agree with you on the part that tech use to get me angry but then it just wears off. I can see you not liking necro but his sampled beats are just amazing. Also sometimes you need a break and just chill. By the way I dont know a single person on this list you made I'll check em out.
     
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    I like that KOS from Toronto. New rap blows for the most part... but that is probably good. It needs to die off so pop can be pop and rap can get back to its roots and be done for love of rap and not for love of money.
     
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    I haven't tried Dead Prez, and for some reason I just don't enjoy Lupe. I can't put my finger on it but when Pandora puts him on I go to next song.
     
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    Hes by far my favourite. When I was at York U, he did a free concert for like 500 of us. It was supposed to be outside but it was raining so it was inside so it was a more restricted show. He did a few free concerts this year and you could pay what you wanted after the concert finished.

    He does stretch the boundaries of what hip-hop does and one of the few that gets praised for it. Him and The Roots are the only ones I know of that tour with live bands.

    He's one of the few rappers that is being original and selling records. Hes underground in the US, but here he makes the radio and is a platinum selling artist in Canada.
     
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    i like rap music.. can't listen to too much of it though
     
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    Big rap fan, but I don't understand the whole Lil Wayne is the hottest active MC thing. Back in the day, when Biggie was the hottest, I feel like even if you hated rap, you could listen to Biggie and just tell his flow was exceptional. But to a non-rap fan, I doubt Lil Wayne is distinguishable from almost anybody else.
     
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    Nah Pharoahe isn't my favorite at all. it was just his one freestyle that I like. Skyzoo has to be my favorite followed by blu and reef the lost cauze. Skyzoo with a 9th wonder beat is the greatest combination ever.
     
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    Rap music is a misnomer. It is not a music form whereas hip-hop music is. Rap itself is a very rhythmic form or poetry or wordplay. I'm not really a huge fan of hip-hop music. However, I really enjoyed a few of the early "rap songs" I heard in the early 1980s because they were fresh = innovative. However, I really can't believe this spawned a whole music genre -- now it just seems overdone and formulaic .

    Anyone remember "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" from Gil-Scott Heron in the early 1970s? This is something of a precursor to rap and hip-hop music.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised

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    You know, I didn't get little Wayne for a long time, but then I started listening to his style and lyrics, and I would say, some of his stuff is better than 90% of the MC's out there. Some of his lyrics are humorus, he uses the tone of his voice pretty well, and has some original lyrics. But at this point, it's just getting played out. He's on every remix, dropping lyrics on every R&B song. I'm going to explode if I listen to "**** Every Girl in the World" again.

    Lately, I've been sticking to The Roots, Mos Def, Little Brother, Common, Talib Kweli, Q-Tip (Like his Renaissance album). I'll mix in some Wu-Tang, Nas. I like this one cut from KRS that I heard recently (Robot). Maybe a little Kanye, even some auto-tune stuff. Heard this one Slaughterhouse cut that was kind of nice. This one Ge-Ology cut with Mos Def on it is nice. Also heard a DJ Spinna cut with Phonte on it that was nice.

    BTW- If you're a Tribe fan check out Gilles Peterson's Podcasts - he has this awesome hour-long podcast with a DJ mixing all of Tribe's best. I'll post the link later.
     
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    Rap music is terrible. I wish it would just disappear.
     
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    Does that "rap" hit your heart as real?...or does it strike you as run-of-the-mill "inventory-taking" bragging?

    Does that "hip/hop" hit your heart as real?...or is it a nothin' more than a nice toe-tappin' (if lifted) "beat?" .... i.e. "beats"

    Miles Davis: "there's only 2 types of music: good music and bad music."

    You can't broadbrush ANY form of music. You have to judge the "artist's" work, be it your interpretation of the artist's INTENT was or....well, maybe the "beats" simply sucked; whatever.

    The "work" not the "form" determines whether or not it sucks.


    Then agAIN......bon jOvi......
     
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    Hey, since alot of people here like the oldskool rap/hip hop I will post my tribute to the oldskool. By the way I am on the first verse. And please don't mind the chorus it was already in the beat when I got the beat, so enjoy.
    ME

    http://www.dopetracks.com/track/148425

    Here is some story telling with a moral and a message. I am on the first verse
    ME
    http://www.dopetracks.com/track/143856
     
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    I usualy listen to slow tempo raping like some of bone thugs (even though they can rap fast as hell) But sometimes I like fast tempo like ghost face killah. I love rap music and Im actualy cool with them talkign about moneys and honeys sometimes but only if they are hardecore enough to. Wu tang realy had some hardcore artists that grew up in the ghetto selling rocks. but when that short little baby LITTLE wayne says stuff like that, it just makes me angry.

    I started getting into underground but im usualy playing tennis so i have no time realy looking up artists and songs.

    Also people are now saying AOTP is the new wu tang?? I dont think they are that good
     
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  48. revolutionary technique

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    Yup they are not that good. Cunning Linguist, Rhymesayers (atmosphere), or demigods are better in my opinion. Aotp has some good members though like apathy and reef.
     
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