Who is able to put the greatest amount of "junk" on a ball of all time?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by VOLLEY KING, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2012
    #1
  2. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    25,781
    Location:
    Weak era
    Welcome back, "Attila the tennis Bum", "balls in your court", "King of Aces" etc.

    When are you gonna make a poll about the number of Nadal fans vs Fed fans?
     
    #2
  3. Cup8489

    Cup8489 Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2007
    Messages:
    9,190
    Location:
    Silvis, IL
    lol. putting Federer at number two immediately makes this thread completely useless.

    Hide your self hate better buddy.
     
    #3
  4. The Bawss

    The Bawss Banned

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,829
    Location:
    Lyon, France.
    Santoro was the junk king in the 90s and 2000s. Now it's probably Dolgopolov or Tomic.
     
    #4
  5. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Come on .....Federer can't be the #1 for everything .

    Why don't we just start the church of Latter day Federites.

    Sheesh!!!

    .
     
    #5
  6. Cup8489

    Cup8489 Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2007
    Messages:
    9,190
    Location:
    Silvis, IL
    why would he even be on this list? he doesn't hit that way. LOL
     
    #6
  7. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Are you kidding ??????

    Federers backhand slice is just amazing !!!!

    Maybe the best ever. I have never seen so much junk put on a ball!!

    And that running squash shot has amazing junk on it .

    "junk" is not a bad word .....it's just means "spin".....crazy spin.
     
    #7
  8. Cup8489

    Cup8489 Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2007
    Messages:
    9,190
    Location:
    Silvis, IL
    I thought 'junk' meant no spin or pace. Using heavy backspin, in my mind, doesn't qualify.

    But yes, the backhand slice is impressive.
     
    #8
  9. joe sch

    joe sch Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    4,721
    Location:
    Hotel CA
    Should have been a poll and Id choose Bahrami
     
    #9
  10. AtomicForehand

    AtomicForehand Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,792
    I don't know if Dolgopolov puts "the most" junk on his balls, but he sure hits junk a lot. I've seen him hit a sharply C-curving slice followed by an S-curving slice followed up by a sharp-angled soft dropper. He gets my vote for the Wizard of Junk on today's tour.
     
    #10
  11. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Joe what guage do you use on your vortex ? Is there different MSV hex versions or only one ?
     
    #11
  12. topsltennis

    topsltennis Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2005
    Messages:
    553
    Location:
    Destin, FL
    McEnroe? Gilbert? Don't think of spin when I think of those two.
     
    #12
  13. joe sch

    joe sch Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    4,721
    Location:
    Hotel CA
    Really off topic but guage and rackets do help enhance spin, but the greats could do those wicked spins with their player rackets. Generally can get more spin with thinner guage string and more open patterns. MSV hex comes in many different guages and the Vortex rackets need a thin guage because of the modern grommets, I used 118 in the crosses and 121 in the mains. I could hit much more spin with those rackets than with my pc600s but Im more competitive with my heads.
     
    #13
  14. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Yeah but I didn't know how to reach you.

    Excuse my lack of knowledge here but does 118= 18 guage? What is 121?
     
    #14
  15. Bobby Jr

    Bobby Jr Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2010
    Messages:
    7,325
    How come Muttiah Muralitharan isn't in the list?
     
    #15
  16. seattle_1hander

    seattle_1hander Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2011
    Messages:
    154
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Bernard Tomic
     
    #16
  17. jackson vile

    jackson vile Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2005
    Messages:
    9,828
    #17
  18. jones101

    jones101 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    4,276
    Location:
    Wales
    Nadal's BH slice is currently the top junk shot of the top 4.
     
    #18
  19. jerriy

    jerriy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 10, 2010
    Messages:
    2,076
    Santoro AND Bahrami above even Federer
     
    #19
  20. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    #20
  21. andry16

    andry16 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    160
    His junk is just so beautiful

    that sounded so wrong XD
     
    #21
  22. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Omg.:shock:
     
    #22
  23. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2012
    #23
  24. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    #24
  25. jerriy

    jerriy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 10, 2010
    Messages:
    2,076
    What's with Yanks and their fetish for the word "junk"?

    Why do I never hear Brits use it even once, for anything? I presume it must be a class thing: blue collar origin (macho substitute slang to avoid saying some technical term that may be perceived as sissy-ish)
    .
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2012
    #25
  26. VOLLEY KING

    VOLLEY KING Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,013
    There's nothing else that really describes it.

    What word would you use instead?

    You could say "spin" but that doesn't really work because Nadal put a lot of spin on the ball but it's topspin not "junk".

    You could say "backspin" that's a bit closer but doesn't really describe the insane stuff Santoro or Bahrami puts on the ball. Or what kind of spin would you call that crazy squash shot that Federer hits?

    Junk is spin that cannot be taught. It's just a crazy ball. The type of spin that is put on it is indescribable so they call it putting "junk " on the ball.

    The term is used for baseball pitchers as well.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2012
    #26
  27. cknobman

    cknobman Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    5,969
    Location:
    Saudi Arabia
    Nadal

    Nadal

    Nadal

    Nadal
     
    #27

Share This Page