Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by brickner_damage, Jun 29, 2012.
Who is favored more at Olympics? Rested Rafa or fatigued Fed?
rest and fatigue doesn't even come into it, nadal may have lost but Fed looked shaky against benny as well. Nadal has got to be favoured over Federer unless Federer wins Wimbledon.
Rafa Nadal won't be mentally fatigued at the Olympics, that we can be sure of. A long holiday..
Aren't there three weeks between the end of Wimbledon and the start of Olympic tennis. That rest period, coupled with playing 2/3 for most of the tournament should mean that Wimbledon fatigue shouldn't be a factor.
Nadal will lose early there as well. Federer won't be contending as a favourite even if he wins this year Championships.
I think Djokovic trumps both.
Federer is way to many ups and downs. He could have easily been following Nadal out of the tournament yesterday.
Nadal has had all of his momentum smashed into oblivion, everything he did to get that edge during the red clay is pretty much gone. He will be coming in after one of the biggest loss in his career.
I think he knew this was likely after he was down 2 sets to 1 twice in the 1st week of 2010 Wimbledon. Isn't the shock that people make it out to be. I think chasing the 7th French Open title tired him out a bit too (mentally), so he'll enjoy the break before London.
I agree, he didn't look that upset in his press conference.
well obviously Nadal can chill now and can rest up big time, Federer if he goes deeper into Wimbledon who knows how much fatigue he will gather in time for the Olympics...idk but a fresh Nadal is usually a consistent performer, so I voted for him
There are two weeks in between Wimbledon and Olympics...how the hell does fatigue even cross your mind, you hobbit.
Rafa needs matches on grass badly if he wants to win the Olympics. He should enter Newport or something.
if Federer keeps winning he will be match-fit and I would favour him.
Me, because I have tickets, I have been favoured by the gods. Actually, they haven't arrived in the post yet, but it is early days.
I will post you some pictures, we are going to have a great time. Hear you can't bring your own food in, so we might get a little raucous with only beer all day.
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Who cares? Rafa alrady has a gold medal and winning another one wouldn't mean much for his career.
He should focus on Toronto, Cincinnati and US Open. At the first two he has very few points to defend.
Wimbledon is bigger than the Olympics!
Wimbledon is bigger than all. Most prized tournament in tennis.
Who gives a hoot about the Olympics if Fred wins the Champs, not that I am expecting it given his abysmal form. God knows how many miracles Jesus and Allah will have to perform just to get Roger into the WO final.
However, if Roger doesn't win WO, OG can be a sort of consolation. I don't rate OG much, so just a consolation.
Who cares. They would both prefer another Wimbledon title over the stupid medal.
Yeah but neither have a chance at this Wimbledon because Rafa Nadal lost and Djokovic is better than Federer in the 5 sets. So Olympic Gold is all that matters now, until the US Open. Career-wise its crucial for Rafa Nadal so he gets the Olympic tennis singles record, and important for Federer so he gets a singles gold.
Better question is: How does Federer even cross your mind????
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Biased thread title is biased.
Total lack of knowledge simply saying the 2 of them can win.
Fed didn't win it yet, wait until the end of the tournament and the winner is probably the favorite.
Rafa depends on the draw more than himself.
Grass will be clean for one week, expect it to be fast.
Neither, Novaks taking it back to Serbia baby!!!
I never said either would win. Djokovic obviously the huge favorite for Olympics. But who is favored more, Rafa Nadal or Federer? One will be rested and mentally fresh. The other will have just played a full Wimbledon..
Really, Rafa has no excuse to NOT win the Olympics. He should be well rested, ready, and used to the grass after lots of practice by then.
If Federer wins Wimbledon, he'll have loads of confidence going into the Olympics. Nadal, on the other hand, won't, and he runs on confidence even more than Federer does. So I don't think rest will be an issue as much as either player mentally preparing himself to win the Olympics. Either one could do it - Djokovic is no god on grass.
How is that possible? He has to play Djoko you know.. Federer will be lucky to win one set. At Roland Garros, was Djoko straight sets. On grass, Djoko can hit through the court even more (while it looks like Federer can't, if you saw his match the other day). Compared to Federer, it looks like Djoko is a god on grass. Federer would have been better off losing to Benn. The pain of losing to Djoko once more will be too much for Federer (especially with Rafa Nadal out of the draw).
I agree,but don't get your hopes up. Nadal runs on confidence and the Stopper just obliterated all of the confidence he had built up recently during the clay season. He's too mentally fragile to overcome it,and I think his Olympics chances,and the rest of the season is shot to hell now because of it.
Where is he getting all of this grass practice at? In Mallorca on hardcourts? He's not winning the Olympics,and really,his chances before he lost to the Stopper were still zero anyway. He also said in presser that his confidence is ruined now,and we all know what the means for the rest of the season.
It is an amazing contrast, at the Olympics. On one hand you have Federer hellbent on winning a singles gold, his main focus this year. And on the other hand you have Rafa Nadal with a singles gold already and pretty much in holiday mode for the weeks preceding the Olympics. Cannot get more different than that. Federer the stress-head, vs Rafa Nadal the vacationer.
I have a feeling Roddick medals in London.
I think you are right. Best of 3 set format and grass always helps him. I can see him beating Federer maybe in that.
There's too many weeks between Wimbledon and the Olympics for that to be much of an issue.
Rafa won't be favoured for anything until next spring. He's done on fast courts. He won't win another title off of clay/slow HC. Ever.
But I think we can safely assume Rafa Nadal will do better in the hardcourt slams than Federer for the next few years. Not much of an achievement, but certainly a positive.
He really gets on my nerves with that. Ugh.
You are right. The rest of the posts here are highly speculative.
Finding a grass court should not be an issue for the #2 who has 2 Wimbledon's in his cabinet. He's physically fit with no injuries, and that's most important. He's already well rested from an easy RG, so no fatigue there.
Most likely not enough match practice, and just getting taken off guard by "Stopper" (lol, what is that supposed to mean, Clarky, it doesn't seem very creative ).
^ LMAO at "Stopper".....you are right, that is unbelievably simple-minded.
Maybe our dear Clarky meant "party pooper".
But maybe her creative juices aren't flowing too well considering the chips are down for PokerStar.
It depends on the umpires really. If they give in to Nadal's reasonable request and therefore instruct his opponents not to breathe, I'd say Nadal is a lock for every tournament he enters.
I can picture it.
Breathing violation called on opponent and then the ump announces: "Mr Rosol has two breaths remaining."
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It's hard to say, I think that the Olympics could have a non-top 4 or top 10 as a winner. The format can really play into a huge server, of which none of the top 4 are.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone with a huge serve wins. They only have to worry about a best 3 out of 5 for the final.
"Stopper" is a term that Jimmy Connors came up with to describe one and done players like Rosol. I thought it was fitting,but if you don't like it,go ahead and tell him about it since Connors is the one who came up with it.
Yeah,mine too. He should be brimming with confidence after the clay season he had,yet he went into Wimby with none,lost,and has only made things even worse for himself. I don't understand it,and can only say that he's just not that mentally tough.
That's pretty rich for someone that didn't think Nadal was tough enough to win MC, Rome or FO.
Sorry,but it's the truth. Nadal himself said his confidence in ruined now. I guess he must be wrong then too.
I guess it depends what kind of semis/final the player gets. Even a low-confidence Rafa Nadal tends to beat the guys ranked around 5-10. Olympics tend to have some surprise early exits, Federer usually.
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