Who is greater of all time - fpeliwo or TonLars?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by SoBad, Nov 16, 2012.

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Who is greater of all time?

This poll will close on Feb 29, 2016 at 8:32 PM.
  1. fpeliwo

    63.5%
  2. TonLars

    17.3%
  3. Other

    19.2%
  1. SoBad

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    Let's discuss and please include all links, vids, etc. This poll closes around December 2016, so you need to vote before then if you want your voice to be heard in the stats.
     
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  2. cmb

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    is it even a question?? Junior Grand slam champion up against college player and teaching pro! lol!!
     
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  3. DolgoSantoro

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    Peliwo obviously. I doubt Tonlars would disagree.

    Doesn't matter much, few people on this forum would be any kind of a threat to either of then even if they were having a terrible day.
     
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  4. SStrikerR

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    I know right? Clearly the teaching pro.
     
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  5. woodrow1029

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    They can play a match to decide. I'll be the chair umpire
     
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  6. Razoredge

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    I hear Peliwo's serve is even bigger than Raonic, is that true?
     
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  7. thejackal

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    He wishes. Haha
     
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  8. The Bawss

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    I don't have a source but I heard the same thing. Just after hearing he could generate more rpm on his forehand than Nadal.
     
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  9. thejackal

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  10. fpeliwo

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    Haha this thread is great, Im loving it
     
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  11. Sabratha

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    Nadal would lose in a tight three setter to Filip Peliwo.
     
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  12. Warmaster

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    Only on clay though, it wouldn't be a contest on the other surfaces.
     
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  13. SoBad

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    True, but TonLars faced tough competition on the college circuit, while fpeliwo had it relatively easy. True, he won Wimbledon and USOpen in the juniors, but it could have been a different story if he played in the earlier stronger jr era and had to face prime Andrey Kuznetsov on grass or in-form Berankis on hardcourts.
     
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  14. axel89

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    actually tony lars has a high chance of beating peliwo he has tony has beaten ranked 300's in the world and fp is 400 or so
     
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  15. TonLars

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    Hey all! Yeah Filip is definitely better, and he is going to continue to improve and be alot better than I am. Right now if im playing well we could have a competitive match, but he would win at least 8 out of 10 times Id think. Ive beaten several ranked players up to about current top 600 and some former top 300 and better, but I think Filip has a pretty high ceiling of course to far surpass that. We nearly faced each other in Winnipeg Futures, but I lost that 4 hour match 1st round where I played a little shaky, and Filip beat that guy in the second round in straight sets pretty convincingly. I didnt see the match unfortunately, but I believe most days I would have beaten the guy I lost to.

    Filip is a great player and I wish him good luck, seems like a good guy too. Im still improving and I will definitely be better 2 years from now than I am currently, barring injury. If i play a few futures this year I like my chances at picking up a point, Ive been close.
     
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  16. Gorecki

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    Sow Bed.... this is Sou Bead...
     
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  17. Devilito

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    they'd have a close match right now. I played Wett and Filip just lost to him so it gives me a good idea of his level atm. Just like Tony said though, Filip will improve at a high rate in the next year or so being on tour full time.
     
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  18. sureshs

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    Jolly is the greatest.

    Followed by LeeD.
     
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  19. marpiw

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    Stupid Thread...it Seems That My Fellow Forum Members Have Nothing To Do And They Create Those Science Fiction Players...you Have Nothing To Say About The Real Ones?????
     
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  20. JoelDali

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    Toni would crush LeeD.

    Absolute crushing. Lethal.

    Epic.

    5.5 VS 4.0

    No chance for Lee.
     
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  21. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    you do realise that

    1. SoBAd is kidding
    2. These are real people, Felip is a Junior GS champ and Tony a very good Open player on the North American Money circuit..
     
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  22. JoelDali

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    Suresh VS Cindy

    Epic TT Battle Exho
     
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  23. Power Player

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    I second this goat match. It must be done for the future of the sport to endure.
     
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  24. sureshs

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    I am ready.

    Is she?
     
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  25. JoelDali

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    I would like to invite both of you to my villa in Milan for drinks and falafel lips.
     
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  26. thejackal

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    actually might have a chance to get a doubles game going with fpeliwo and one of his training partners at the national center (DI player at a big NCAA school next year) against me (crappy open-level player) and a co-worker who used to be a ranked junior. 7.0 + 6.0 vs a 5.0s...nothing good can come of that

    will probably have the webTV team at work film part of the match
     
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  27. slowfox

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    Greater than each other or not, both guys got class. Sometimes slumming it with us TT hacks.. :)
     
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  28. axel89

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    Jackal how do you know fpeliwo also Tonylars is like a 6.0-6.5 so invite him
     
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  29. Rjtennis

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    I would be a good watch to watch for sure...
     
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  30. KineticChain

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    wat

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  31. thejackal

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    Question:

    I'm preparing a list of tennis-related challenges for the filming. If you had to decide, what kind of mini-games would you like to see us play?

    Ideas we got so far:

    1) Mini-tennis (all four players start at the net, we start the ball at the center of the let tape, and play out the point using the service boxes)

    2) 5.0s stand across from each other at the net, and the two pro players pair up. Both teams play volley-volley and see which team can get the most hits in 60 seconds

    3) Targets are placed in a service box. Each player has 60 seconds to take out as many as possible with his serve.

    4) Full tiebreak, pros vs hacks, loser has to play butts up

    any other ideas?
     
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  32. JoelDali

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    How about you all play in the hot tub with Serbian models and endless supplies of Basalt and champagne.

    I have to be honest here and say that no one wants to see any of the idiotic activities you posted above on film or via third party hearsay.
     
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  33. SoBad

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    Yes, that could be a good watch to watch, but an even better watch to watch would be one of those classics of Fedace v. joeyg at Ojai in SoCal.
     
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  34. JoelDali

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    If I was a watch I would be a Federer watch.
     
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  35. SoBad

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    And if I were a pair of black Armani boxer-briefs... oh... Anyway, if I got a wish I'd wish for three more wishes!!:lol:
     
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  36. sureshs

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    That would be great for being "picked" by Nadal
     
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  37. Joeyg

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    That's pretty funny!
     
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  38. SoBad

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    I bet Federer doesn't even know how to tell time on a clock:lol:
     
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  39. adamX012

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    Other,---me :)
     
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  40. NLBwell

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    fpeliwo has had some great posts, but it is too early to say whether his body of work over his entire TT posting career will be greater than TonLars.
     
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  41. SoBad

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    You hit the nail right on the head here. By “greater of all time” we don’t mean “who is more accomplished” or “who is more likely to win a match if they played today”. It’s a complex combination of past accomplishments, current ability, future promise, and finally the contribution to our forum here, among many other intangibles.
     
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