Who is our best player on the boards..??

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by tennisflyboy, Jan 29, 2005.

  1. Kalin

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    Since many seem to be reading this, a rating question: many websites have the standard description of the NTPR (or is it NTRP) ratings, which description are, admittedly, somewhat vague and lend themselves to quite loose interpretation, as we have often seen. I have seen once, however, and was never able to find again, an expanded description of the above rankings, which contained more detailed comments about what a player of every level is supposed to be capable of during actual play situations. These comments made the levels much more understandable and well defined and made it easier for one to rank him/herself.

    For example, I remember one of the things for a 4.5 (where I usually rate myself) was- 'you should be able to return virtually every kind of shot, provided it is hit right at you'. Before you laugh, this said 'every kind'. How many of us 4.5's can really return a pro's heavy groundstoke hit right at our weaker wing? How about several of them in succession? Makes one wonder about our self-rankings sometimes.

    Does anyone know where these comments can be found?? Those were a really useful read.
     
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  2. Cigo

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    Like that overhead from baseline that Roddick hit right at Federer during wimby finals last year?
     
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  3. Ronaldo

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    3.5 but my goal is to work hard, have a BAD year, and appeal my rating. Find a loaded 3.0 team and rule.
     
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  4. coach

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    it's a little complicated, 4.279 second serve, 4.476 first serve, 4.6258 backhand, 5.12774 forehand, 5.177 return of serve, 4.265 volley, 4.988 chip, 4.655 charge, and then factor in my weight, sleep from the night before, age and condition of balls (tennis balls), and opponents rating and shot. Add this together and divide by number of marriages by J-Lo, divide that by the number of racquets in my bag, then add the number of trials Michael Jackson has had and that's the number that I go by.

    On a more serious note, (for Kalin above, and others) here's the link to the NTRP ratings: http://www.tennis.com/instruction/fullstory.sps?inewsid=16825&itype=1481
     
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  5. bc-05

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    divide by jlos marriage? man ur rating would be divided by 10 x infinity? talkin about mj ur rating should be based on how much kids michael jackson has done.. to make it interesting compare to jlos marriage
     
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  6. TripleB

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    4.5 player with a 5.5 backhand, a 4.0 forehand, a 3.5 serve, a 6.0 dropshot, a 2.5 volley, a 4.0 return....yep, your standard 4.5 player.

    TripleB
     
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  7. perfmode

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    [3.0retardwhodoesn'tunderstandthentrpratingsystem]I am a 4.0 on a bad day and 5.0 on a good day[/3.0retardwhodoesn'tunderstandthentrpratingsystem]

    News flash: You're NTRP level doesn't/cannot fluctuate by entire points on a day to day basis unless you suffer with short term memory loss and you have to tattoo checklists onto your forearms to remember how to play tennis.
     
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  8. Brettolius

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    remember sammy jankis!! remember sammy jankis!!
     
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  9. Dedans Penthouse

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    Tim teaches in NYC? Hmmm, I thought he went to divinity school (to become a minister of something like that). Anyway, Chris Mayotte:
    * The "feisty" Mayotte, is the brother of Tim (or "Timothy" as he refers to him). Closing one's eyes, why one can still hear the anguished ghost of Chris Mayotte chastising himself in the 3rd person "Christopher!" and dropping the "F-bomb" on court 2 of the outdoor (Har-Tru) New Rochelle Tennis Club (Valley Rd.) vs. N.Y.A.C. (wink).
    * Sweet hands. Loved to make a monkey's uncle out of many a club player when he played a cute little 1-2 combo in doubles--hit a soft "buggywhip" forehand with a lot of spin to get the volleyer lunging forward, then would move in, take the volley out of the air, and hit a half-lob volley winner over their heads. Nice touch, could also hit a ball through a wall if needed.
    * Played with a blue Head racquet (280?). Brother Tim played with that Aqua-blue-green Head with the white grommets.
    * Guy had one of the "better" appetites around (if you could put a Buick Regal on a hamburger roll and top it with Swiss, Chris was capable of devouring it). Smirk.
    Delivered one of the funnier lines on court #1 (at home) during a New Rochelle match vs. Armonk T.C.. Referring to his partner's quickness at net during one particular point, Mayotte remarked in amazement: "Wow! He poached on himself!"
    *Became money manager? Got married, had kid then gained "a pound or two?..." (smirk).
    * Nice person. Nice player.
    * On the "flip" (bad) side.........is a Red Sox fan.
     
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  10. jun

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    My son's name is Jaden Gil, and I married Steffi Graf....Is that enough?
     
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  11. tennisflyboy

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    Andre... Is that you?...
     
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  12. katarddx

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    .5 on bad day, and .75 on a relly good one!
     
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  13. Don Felder

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    Just curious... are some of you rating yourselves 6.0+ based on the tournaments you play/have played in in the past? Because I personally know some outstanding players.. including former Big Ten #1 players, a guy who used to travel around with Martina N. and beat the **** out of her, and others I have met around my region (The *******) and I have never seen USTA actually rate anyone 6.0...
     
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  14. thatballwas_IN

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    I think I can beat anybody... until I lose to them.:confused:
     
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  15. Chadwixx

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    once u get above 5.5 it all comes down to ur accomplishments. the only difference between a 6.5 and a 7.0 is the 7.0 broke the top 100. its not a very good rating system for players above 5.5 because the stroke aspects are the same. its caterd to 3.0-4.5 mainly.

    also if someone is a 5.5+ why would they want to have an ntrp rating? i know i have seen a few 5.0 tournaments but dont think i have ever seen a 5.5 ntrp tourney.
     
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  16. bc-05

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    they call me fed. im in love with a girl named miroslava or they call her mirka. i use a red racquet and this guy beat me last friday. this is all i can say as i would like my identity to remain anynomous.. name = r federer or roger f thats all the clue imma give u of who i am! ta ta
     
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  17. tennisflyboy

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    Roger... Do you think that you were distracted by the beauty of Safins girlfriend? I'm sorry, but Mirka does hold a candle to Dasha....
     
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  18. jhhachamp

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    I played some tournys when I was in high school and was ranked about 65 in the Easterns in 2002, had a good high school career as well with an undefeated senior season. However, since high school, I dont play nearly as much and my game has dropped off a bit. Somehow my serve has improved though without playing.
     
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  19. perfmode

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    Mirka is a woman who actually cares about tennis. Dasha is just another one of Safin's flings. She won't be around for the Masters' Cup.


    Women > Girls
     
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  20. tennisflyboy

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    With Safin winning the AO, I think Dasha will definately be around for the Masters Cup... He has definately matured as of late, maybe Dasha has something to do with that... Hey... by the way Perfmode, where in Boston do you play? The BAC, Weymouth Club, Mount Auburn...?
     
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  21. Thomas Tung

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    I don't know the NTRP ratings all that well ... although I was told by a 3.5 league coach that I was around 4.0 level ... so I guess I'm a 4.0. You'd have to see me play, and judge for yourself.
     
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  22. bc-05

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    its true its damn true.. on the tie breaker in the 4th set at matchpoint dasha blew me a kiss and she gave me a wink.. so i tried to be fancy with the through the leg shot to impress her.. however when i missed she gave me that evil look saying 'GOTCHA' then when i saw mirka she gave me the look of 'UR ****ED' since then i knew that dasha is evil.. u want me to prove?
     
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  23. tennisflyboy

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    No man.... I totally believe you!!
     
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  24. Kalin

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    Thanks, Coach, this type of extended descriptions are much better.

    Why do people get so sensitive when someone else says their level is 5.5+? There are tons of people around the world that are satellite/pro level players, why is it such a surprise that they would post on a tennis board sometimes?
     
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  25. rlbjr

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    5.0, dropping with age. Have had top ten regional rankings in the opens many years and about 30lbs ago, have been ranked #1 or 2 most of my time in the 35+ dbls. Spent 12yrs as a teaching pro, played HS and College.
     
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  26. Nubarron

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    I'm about a 6.5 when I **** a .20 or above breathalyzer test. I'm a mid level 4.0 when my BAC returns to below the level of intoxication.
     
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  27. Nubarron

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    whoops! I forgot B-L-O-W was a bad word around hear! Please, please forgive me.
     
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  28. kyle.php

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    I'm 14 and play in the 16 Open, I started playing 2 years ago. I have 2 tournament wins under my belt and I play on my high school varsity team.
     
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  29. Datacipher

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    Yes, there are Kalin and we do have a couple of satellite level players here. The ones I know of have either not posted in this thread or made a joke of it as it deserves.

    However, percentage wise, realize that 6.5 players are EXTREMELY rare. You are looking at a bell curve. The majority of players are below 4.0, though they self rate 4.0+. Further, the ones in this thread who have claimed to be 6.5 have been highly suspicious in the manner they have made their claims. Obviously for example, the kid who started this thread made some huge claims but when asked for evidence by several posters, he fell silent. So, several questions arise....what is the point of this thread? If you will not back up your claim, why claim it? If you are really 6.5, what tournaments have you played? What were your results? Overall it's just silly.
     
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  30. Don Felder

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    Exactly, noone gets rated 6.0... as far as I know... the whole point of a 5.5 rating is to acknowledge that one is too strong to play ina 5.0 league.
     
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  31. andfor

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    I have seen some on the USTA website listed as 6.0. I'll figure out how I saw that before and post the results if I can duplicate it again. If you want I'll try.

    Most likley those rated 6.0 are self-rated and really not that good unless they also have ATP point(s) if any to back it up. Remember over the years there have been hundreds if not thousands of players to gain one ATP point w/o winning a single pro match that earned them the ranking point. If you are given a Wild Card into the right tournament you get an ATP point even if you lose 1R, thus the ranking, even if it is 1500 or whatever in the world. Many of these Wild Cards are given to young promising players trying their luck on the pro tour.
     
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  32. tcjackson

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    It just so happens that there is a legitimate 6.0 rated player right here in the Missouri Valley section. His name is Fritz Bissell. I have seen him play on a number of occasions. He is simply amazing to watch. He is a teaching pro in the Kansas City area.
     
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  33. tennisflyboy

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    My dearest Datacipher... If you have such a problem with this thread, then why are you responding to it? As you can see... it is one of the most popular threads at the moment... I'm not on the boards every single night like youself... People are enjoying reading and responding to it... Isn't that what the boards are for? As to you doubting my claims... Why don't you give me your personal email address, and I can send you some proof... Also, your more than welcome to come visit me at the well know tennis establishment that I work at, and you and I can schedule some court time, and you can personally rate me to what you think to be appropriate... As far as me having to prove myself to anyone what I have accomplished.... THAT is what's silly... Can't wait to hear back from you...
     
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  34. andfor

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    Some of you know-it-alls may be suprised when you click on the links below.

    No offense to those 6.0's listed. The USTA does have a 5.5 league that has limited participation, usually just a national champ. for those who want to bother to play in it I guess. Maybe they played in that or played in a 5.0 league and blanked everyone. Funny thing is many of them have a (B) for Benchmark and (C) for Computer next to their name that means they played somewhere in the USTA system and got their 6.0 rating. Anyone know for sure why they are in the system? Just curious?

    I even found some self-rated 7.0's. See the last link

    http://national.usta.com/Reports/NT...07&DivisionNodeID=&GenderCode=&NTRPRating=6.0

    http://national.usta.com/Reports/NT...02&DivisionNodeID=&GenderCode=&NTRPRating=6.0

    http://national.usta.com/Reports/NT...56&DivisionNodeID=&GenderCode=&NTRPRating=6.0

    Check out the self-rated 7.0's. OK, let these guys slide, they both are currently ranked on the ATP even though it may not be that high to some here, 680 something and 1490 something respectively. For what purpose are they in the system?

    http://national.usta.com/Reports/NT...56&DivisionNodeID=&GenderCode=&NTRPRating=7.0
     
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  35. andfor

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    I could not find Bissell in the system. That does not mean anything though, he's legit.

    TC, do you know this guy?
    http://national.usta.com/Reports/NT...32&DivisionNodeID=&GenderCode=&NTRPRating=6.0
     
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  36. andfor

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    Dear Mr. Boy,

    If you give me the USTA section and city you reside in I can gladly post your rating, thus validating your supremecy.

    Sincerely,

    AF
     
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  37. WW Volley

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    If anything, we've learned that tennis ability speaks nothing of one's character and intelligence.
     
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  38. tennisflyboy

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    Thanks for the offer andfor... I'll just wait for Datacipher to respond... I know you would like to feel important and help me "Validate my Supremecy" but, No Thanks.... I'll keep it personal..
     
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  39. andfor

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    Is someone hidding behind his keyboard?
     
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  40. Rickson

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    I'm not the best tennis player on this board, but I'm definitely the best fighter here.
     
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  41. andfor

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    I for one will not fight you or anyone for that matter. My days of fighting are well behind me.

    However in my day when I did fight I'd say I was a 5.5 when sober or with a just couple of liquid bravery drinks in me. Depending on how many "pops" I had over and above that threshold I could have been low as a 2.5 on a bad night.
     
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  42. Venetian

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    No idea. Took lessons for a year and played #1 singles in high school. Only played one USTA tournament and was never rated.

    I'd like to know, but I'm not going to self-rate because I don't think I could be an accurate judge of my own game.
     
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  43. Phil

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    Yuck, yuck...your post demonstrates that you probably have the smallest pe=is on this board. But we know that from previous boasts of yours.
     
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  44. Datacipher

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    I think the manner and tone of your reply speaks for itself. You clearly are enjoying this troll thread. You can see that the majority of posters here have treated it as a joke, as I myself did. Kalin however asked a legitimate question and I tried to respond. You should also read more carefully as I didn't even ask for proof, others have, frankly, what matters to me is your posts(which speak for themselves) not any tennis ability you may or may not have. However, I encourage you to email me, my email is available on the board, since you are so eager, I'll expect to hear from you privately.

    More importantly however, why would you put priority on proving yourself to me, who never even bothered to ask the question? Why not answer people who genuinely want to know? Why not take up Andfor's offer or the suggestion of others? You started this thread so I assume you want people to believe you.

    I completely stand by my statement that this thread is silly. Everyone is free to agree or disagree with that. A thread where people anonymously self report ratings and credentials while refusing to offer any proof has no point other than as a character study of anonymous posters on the internet.

    PS. I think it would be great to hit with you if you are 6.5. I hit with a couple young 6.5's and while they can give me a severe whipping when sufficiently motivated but when I'm playing a lot, I can give them a semi-decent workout anyways. I may be doing a lot of travelling this summer, so it could happen! But in all honesty, I hope you're not always overcompensating in real life like you seem to be here.
     
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  45. Rickson

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    It's a freakin joke, Phil, relax. My background in mixed martial arts gave me a nice little handy skill and I'm just hoping that one day my tennis will catch up.
     
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  46. Datacipher

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    LOL. Probably a given.

    Um...you know Rickson...a really great fighter would not likely call himself the name of another fighter like Rickson Gracie. This would be like an ATP pro, using the screenname "Lleyton". It just doesn't seem to likely does it?
     
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  47. andfor

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    Rickson, what is your fighting NTRP?
     
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  48. bc-05

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    /me glove slaps rickson
    ill challenge u to a duel! one on one im an 8 degree red belt in jiu jitsu pwoahhhhh (does the bruce lee)
     
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  49. Rickson

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    Anytime, bc, anytime.
     
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  50. Morpheus

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    Oops, Bruce Lee didn't practice Jiu Jitsu. He began with Wing Chun, then developed JKD.

    And your grammar is really poor.
     

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