Who is the BEST commentator??

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Who is the BEST commentator??

  1. Cliff Drysdale

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  2. Johnny Mac

    34.4%
  3. Mary Carillo

    3.8%
  4. Luke Jensen

    0.6%
  5. Jim Courier

    10.6%
  6. Brad Gilbert

    11.9%
  7. other

    28.8%
  1. Shaolin

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    Okay I guess we can decide this too. Again you can write someone in. I couldnt think of many good choices actually, haha.

    Im going with Cliff, day in and day out he is cool and never bothers me. He also says interesting things without taking it to a level of extreme corniness like Jensen.

    Some of the people are on my best and worst list, thats because I think they occasionally make good comments and give me something interesting, they do annoying stuff (like Carillo, Jensen, Gilbert and Courier).
     
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  2. Joe Oldschool

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    Cliff is a class act. He gives a broader perspective on the game. Also, don't be fooled. He knows a hell of a lot more about the modern game than P Mac. However, he is a professional and does his job like he is supposed to (i.e. he is the play by play guy and therefore defers "questions" to P Mac and the others - they are the color/analyst people).
     
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  3. borisboris

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    :p The Firey One Fred Stolle. He was the Gene Siskel of the Drysdale-Stolle Carillo Trio in the late 80's -early 90's. Very big loss for ESPN. Cliff is still the champ and I need him in the booth for at least another 5 yrs. John Mac & Courier are also excellent with insight very few in the world can offer.
     
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  4. RickN

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    I agree that Johnny Mac and Courier are the best ones. I wished they would cover all the events. I'm sick of P. Mac and I'm sure a lot of people are as well.
     
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  5. pound cat

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    Peter Burwash who does the commentary for TM Canada on ESPN....boy, does he know his tennis. And I like John Barrett who does the commentary on European ESPN feed which we occasionally get. All tennis, no mindless blather, solft spoken, and the French channel (Helene Pelletier) who comments on ESPN S. Am feed. Or Jimmy Arias who did AO when we saw all of it on ESPN but S.Am feed. We get this in Canada, and it's too bad US fans can't get to hear them even once to see what tennis commentary should be like. Honest, there are a lot of good commentators!
     
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  6. Kobble

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    Jimmy Arias.
     
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  7. PureCarlosMoyaDrive

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    Seriously, whoever picked Carillo, how could you? She is the most arrogant commentator and is so biased, not to mention her masculinaty.
     
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  8. tcjackson

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    Like John McEnroe a lot. Very insightful and funny.
     
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  9. amarone

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    Even if you are right, and even if you could spell masculinity, what an earth has that got to do with how good a commentator she is?
     
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  10. pound cat

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    What's masculine about Mary C? The fact that she has some kids and a husband? Is quite attractive? The timbre of her voice? Knows a lot about tennis? Comments about men playing, and because she's a woman should really be doing only WTA stuff if she was a REAL woman. Please explain . Thanks.
     
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  11. @wright

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    Well the fact that her voice is deeper than most men, she dresses like a man usually, she has the stature and body structure of a man, and if you cut her hair short, she could easily be mistaken for a man, leads most of us to believe that she is masculine. In what way is she attractive, no offense, but you are the only one on these boards that has said she's attractive and you happen to be a woman, I rest my case.
     
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  12. Shaolin

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    Awright--have you noticed that Carilllo sort of looks like "The Rock", if her hair was really short?

    Her voice always reminds me of a big guy trying to talk really softly....gives me the creeps. She doesnt hold back though, Ill give her that, Ive heard her say some pretty offensive things, which kinda adds to the fun.
     
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  13. pound cat

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    LOL @wright. I take what you said as a compliment.
     
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  14. @wright

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    Shaolin, as a matter of fact, I have noticed it! They have the same facial features and beady eyes with eyebrows that are almost always in "angry" position, slanted down.
     
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  15. PureCarlosMoyaDrive

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    Thanks for defending me guys. But seriously pound, she is very unattractive IMO. Her voice is just like a big guy trying to talk softly, and I hate it. She's really annoying, literally wants to marry Agassi or at least acts like he pays her a fricken million to wipe his behind for him.

    And sorry I spelt the word wrong, I knew I missed a letter.
     
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  16. Camilio Pascual

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    Take Tim McCarver to some tennis tournaments for 3 months. Then put him in the booth at Wimby and he would be the best tennis commentator.
     
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  17. Brian Purdie

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    I like Ted Robinson. Sure he's hard to look at, but when he and Mac are in the booth on a late night on USA Network calling a match, I truly enjoy it. Better is when they get someone like Boris Becker, Pete Sampras or Todd Martin to stop by the studio. It's a great atmosphere in which to watch TV. Love `em!
     
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  18. polakosaur

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    pat cash and mali vai washington, pat cash cause he just tells you exactly whats happening in the match and story line and knows so much more than others, i've only heard like 3 matches called by him but i've never seen so many of the small things that affect the match that he brings up, and mali vai cause he tells you whats happening through simple data like shot spot
     
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  19. tennis-n-sc

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    I voted for Jim but was torn between he and Johnny Mac. I also kinda liked Brad Gilbert the one time I heard him. I don't know how that would play as a steady diet. I would like to see Pat Rafter get a shot one day soon. Great insight, classy guy and very funny!
     
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  20. chad shaver

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    Have to go with Fiery Fred Stolle. He is absolutely the greatest.
     
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  21. breetai

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    Mary Carillio is the worse commentor IMO.
    It's has nothing to do with her being a butch.
    She's just igorant bout about gameplay. Maybe MAYBE she has a sense on the personalities and that's about it.


    as for Tim McCarver....I cringe at that thought. He bored me to tears watching Met games, and now on Fox. There's why Fox group him with "personalities" with his baseball ramblings.

    Johnny Mac is good..Jim courier is ok.
     
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  22. Japanese Maple

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    Johny Mac is definitely the best,I like Lukes enthusiasm, and haven't heard enough of Jim C. to voice an opinion, but I am sure he is good. What bothers me about Mary C. in trying to be unique with her phraseology, she will use words that no one who plays tennis ever uses- "they are playing some nice ball" Mary C. has been separated or divorced from her husband for over 1-2 years.
    Her masculinity doesn't bother me, just her choice of wordage in trying to be different.
     
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  23. @wright

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    LOL they are playing some nice ball- hey, that's pretty cutting edge!
     
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  24. Morpheus

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    Easy. John Mac. No one comes close.
     
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  25. garcia_doomer

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    Remember ths old old thread?
    Come on it's interesting!
    Bump bump! :)
     
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  26. J-man

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    I like Johnny Mac, P Mac and Jim Courier. But I actually like the SuperSports commentators the most
     
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  27. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    Darren Cahill, Johnny Mac, and those two guys that commentate during the Master Series, Goodal and Keoinig. An honorable mention should go out to Agassi in his onetime appearance at the US Open 2007.
     
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  28. DoubleDeuce

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    Good to see most voted for JMac. One of the reasons I dont like the tennis channel is that he is not there. They have couple of silly guys with an accent who repeat the same things for everyone one over and over again.
     
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  29. roundiesee

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    The best commentator in tennis is (or rather, was) Dan Maskell; unfortunately I have so far not seen nor heard anyone who is equal to his mastery of tennis commentary....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Maskell
     
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  30. JeMar

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    My favorites are probably the commentators on the TMS feed. If I had to choose from network commentators, I'd go with Cahill or Brad Gilbert. It's pretty fun to listen to how they feed off one another.

    As a side note, I think Mary Carillo an okay commentator. She does let her bias shine through sometimes, but she's probably the most articulate mainstream commentator out there today.
     
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  31. boredone3456

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    I like Courier, at least he seems to be unbiased and informed on the players, johnny mac is a decent one to...carillo should not even be on that poll
     
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  32. JeMar

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    I guess she appeals to the writer in me.
     
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  33. Djokovicfan4life

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    You need to add an option for Jason Goodall and Robbie Koenig. Jason is the best, IMO.

    As far as Americans go, I like Jimmy Arias. A lot of people seem to hate him around here for some reason, but I find that he says exactly what I'm thinking a lot of the time.

    Also, Corina Morariu is my favorite woman commentator now. I liked how she corrected her grammer today from "less unforced errors" to "fewer unforced errors". It was awesome. And yes, I'm an idiot.

    She also gets major props for putting up with Barry Mackay's sorry ass.
     
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  34. vbranis

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    I was just about to post the exact same thing. The TMS commentators are absolutely brilliant, Arias is one of the best mainstream ones (tied with Cahill) and Mackay, the less said about him, the better.
     
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    Andre at the US Open commentating on Fed vs. Roddick match.

    Tons of insightful tips and observations including Becker's serve tendencies.

    r,
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  36. RF007

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    Goodall and Koenig are the best! Unlike most commentators, they don't talk during the point.
     
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    I like the guys who do the Master series when they simulcast it on Tennis Channel.

    Cheers,

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  38. Djokovicfan4life

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    Yeah, I guess Davenport didn't get the memo on that one. I'm watching the WTA championships and she just won't shut up during points. Also, I find that American commentators tend to stray off topic a lot during a match.

    Like yesterday during the Kuznetsova vs. Zvonereva match. By the third game or so the commentators had gone WAY off topic to things like Roger Federer's approach shots, Dementieva's win at the olympics, etc. I wish they would just stay on topic and focus on the match at hand. Maybe they should pretend they're writing an essay or something. :)
     
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  39. woodrow1029

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    They still don't know the rules. One thing I like about watching baseball or football is when something unusual or different happens, and they are not sure what the ruling is, they will research for a minute, put the rule on the screen and explain the decision. Tennis commentators don't do that. They just say what THEY think the rule is, and too often they are wrong. That irritates me as a spectator and as an umpire.
     
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  40. stormholloway

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    Goodall and Koenig by a country mile. McEnroe is overrated. If I have to hear about "these new strings and lighter racquets" I will destroy something fragile.
     
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  41. Sir Andrew of Roddick

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    Peter Fleming is the man! he works for Sky Sports here in the UK.
     
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    I second that. Peter Fleming and Leif Shiras are awesome!
     
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    I find that most former players don't do really well (of course there are some exceptions). Although I found Tracy Austin quite good watching the WTA Championships. She offered some insight and most of the time, she only spoke when necessary
     
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    Agreed....The Tennis Channel had Lindsay Davenport commentating on Doha and she spoke wayyyyyy to much and mostly about herself. Wish they would have kept her out of the booth and let Carina Morariu do it alone.
     
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  45. 10sbune

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    How about the two guys on The Tennis Channel that did Paris Masters? I thought they were good. I think it was Jason Goodall and Robbie Cohen. Really insightful, not too much talking, valuable commentary.
     
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  46. Leelord337

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    i completely agree with you, doug adler is good too. there is just no comparison from the atp tennis masters series commentators and the espn ones.
     
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    Stolle or Boris Becker.

    Boris commenting at Wimbledon was excellent: good strategy and point analysis, good tactical insights, player's thoughts, no chit-chat crap, no urge to fill dead air with charming banter.
     
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    Boris Becker, gives a good light hearted commentary and good analysis aswell.

    I am waiting for Tim Henman to mature, he was crap at Wimbley this year but I expect a vast improvement as he gets more used to it. Hopefully he will practice with the kids and on the golf course.
     
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  49. J-man

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    Have not heard Tim Henman commentate. Didn't know he was doing it
     
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    Like the British (i think) duo that do the MS and other events shown live on the Tennis channel
     
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