Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet?

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  1. rpsbel

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    We have different point of views. I respect yours, but I have mine. We never agree with. Thank You.


     
  2. rpsbel

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    But Ti, MG Radical, have 98 sq......., not 95...........




     
  3. BreakPoint

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    You've just explained why Federer isn't winning as much any more. It's his age and mileage. It has nothing to do with his racquet. Is Hewitt winning any Slams anymore or threatening to get back to #1 even though he switched to a bigger racquet? He's the same age as Federer.

    Sampras saying he should have switched to a bigger racquet is the same as me saying I should have bought the winning lottery ticket yesterday. Because, of course, if he had switched he would have won 10 more Slams and if I bought a lottery ticket I would have won $100 million dollars. LOL Or it's also possible Sampras would have lost even more Slams if he had switched and I would have just lost my money buying a worthless lottery ticket. It's called wishful thinking. If we could all predict the future with 100% certainty, we all would have bought Apple stock when it was $10 a share. :) LOL
     
  4. BreakPoint

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    No, they are not. Measure them for yourself. They are only marketed as being 98 sq. in. but they are really only 95 sq. in. Just like Head's 93 sq. in. Mids are only really 89.5 sq. in. It's all marketing and it's because it's easier to convert between 93 sq. in. to nice round number like 600 sq. cm. for marketing.
     
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    ^ you can not be serious
     
  6. BreakPoint

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    Totally serious. This has been discussed on this board ad nauseum from day one of this board's existence. Do a search and you'll see.

    PC600 sounds a lot better than PC578 for marketing purposes. Same for PT630 which sounds better than PT613. So Head used 600 sq. cm. which converts to 93 sq. in. instead of its true size which is 578 sq. cm. (89.5 sq. in.), and they also used 630 sq. in. which converts to 98 sq. in. instead of it true size which is 613 sq. cm. (95 sq. in.). They did the same for the 660 sq. cm. (102 sq. in.)

    For marketing, it's much better to use nice round numerical names like 600, 630, and 660 than their true size numbers. Thus, the 93, 98, and 102 are just conversions from their metric marketing names and not their true headsizes.
     
  7. Doubles

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    It's completely true.
     
  8. roundiesee

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    TBH, I did believe that Roger would have done better with a bigger midplus racket, that is until last week, when I actually tried playing with the BLX Prostaff 90. I am not saying Roger plays with this particular retail version, but certainly he uses one which is quite similar. The racket had so much feel and control, I was playing better tennis than when I was using the Babolat Pure Drive 2012, so go figure :)
     
  9. Larrysümmers

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    im tellin ya. he bumps up that head size a little. maybe a touch stiffer and a tad lighter and he'll be hitting the ball like he was 26 again.
     
  10. BreakPoint

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    I hope not. He's hitting the ball better now than he was when he was 26. :shock:
     
  11. Praetorian

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    ooops.. wrong quote
     
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    I'll bite, and give you the benefit of a doubt that you know what's better for Federer, than Federer himself. Please enlighten us as to your authoritative qualifications. Verifiable facts would go a super long way in establishing your credibility. Thanks in advance.
     
  13. Scottish Tennis Fanatic

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    If Fed had used a bigger frame he wouldn't have been as successful as he has been.

    The 90" requires supreme accuracy, not many could use his racquet.
     
  14. rpsbel

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    establishing your credibility

    You can not be serious!
     
  15. Praetorian

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    So are you saying you are John McEnroe??

    Uh yeah.... that's what I thought. Thanks for playing though.
     
  16. rpsbel

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    Ohhh,

    Just members with 1.000.000.000 posts here could say anything. New members just read........

    Give me a break!

    Everyone could express their opinions. If You do not agree, patience. This is a democracy.

    When somebody write anything, they express their opinion, not the undeniable truth. Come on!

    Credibility at tennis forum? Ohh. Let me see, I will put an example: A month ago, four (4) experts bloggers (tennis.com) shut their picks for Wimbledon, and they're all wrong, all wrong! 4 experts! Writers with more than 20 years at tennis coverage. By the way, read the book writing by Peter Bodo (Roger......), that is a great book.
    I respect an opinion from one with credentials, ok, but, after listen, I will have my opinion, could be the same or not.
    If You think that just (people with credentials) opinions has weight and veracity, do not wast your time with new users posts.
    Respect is a two way street, not a single........




     
  17. Praetorian

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    Your drivel is only as enjoyable as a Sharapova/Azarenka match. You have the right to post whatever the hell you want. I have the right to call you out. Deal with it, especially if you say "I know...", yet provide no informations as to why you KNOW. Instead of providing anything, to back up your claims, you cry foul. I'm done with you. Feel free to be done with me.
     
  18. rpsbel

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    Your age? 8? 10? Grow up! If You have more than 10 years old, I KNOW You must have to see a psychiatrist. Go treat yourself. World thanks.


     
  19. jaap deboeck

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    Fed's recent "troubles"? Nadal should have Fed's troubles. As of mid summer 2012 Fed is #1 with scant signs of needing a larger stick.
     
  20. blindsquirrel

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    For crying out loud! He's Roger effing Federer! I imagine he's pretty intuned with his equipment.
     
  21. lendlmac

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    I guess it is safe to say, that Federer looked lost out there, did you see the shanks and mishits tonight? The power from Berdych was too much for Federer to handle....

    Federer had a great year, and now he can play for pride, but he looked tired and old and lost...

    Remember when Djokovic had that 4-5 day break at the Fench open last year when losing to Federer? Well Federer had 3-4 days off as well and he looked rusty, tired and old, faded....
     
  22. lendlmac

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    When will roger learn? Just upgrade and you will stay on top! Otherwise it will be painful watching you lose and be blow off the court with power.
     
  23. AlpineCadet

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    Actually, the "98 midplus" Prestige is at or around 96.1 sq inches.
     
  24. ignorant

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    What about speed mp ,is it equal to head size 98 square inches?
     
  25. BreakPoint

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    I don't think so. It looks like a 95 or smaller when I hold it in my hands. Compare it to the PS 6.0 95. The Head frame looks smaller.

    Murray's racquet also looks to be smaller than a 95 to me when you watch him play.
     
  26. BreakPoint

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    So the guy who has been #1 for a record 300 weeks needs to change his racquet so be can become #1 and be on top? :???:

    If power won tennis matches, Berdych, Del Potro, Soderling, Blake, Tursunov, Rosol, etc. would all each have 10 Slam titles.
     
  27. UCSF2012

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    He's #2 in the world. Two ain't bad. Maybe all those chumps below him should upgrade to 105 sq in if they want to overtake Roger.
     
  28. AlpineCadet

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    That's just your random opinion. Try being a member of GSSalliance. :oops:
     
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    Yes, the man is the Wimbledon champ and #1 in the world, but I still think Roger would benefit from switching to a slightly bigger headsize. It isn't made any more evident when you see the tremendous amount of errors coming off his racquet on a regular basis. If he doesn't like the Six.One 95 of Pro Staff Six.One 95 frames, he could always work with Wilson on creating a whole new signature frame just for him that incorporates the 95 sq. inch head size. In all likelihood it would be a huge cash cow for Wilson as well as benefit Roger's game.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  30. BreakPoint

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    Huh? Federer just locked in the #1 ranking for the 300th week.
     
  31. BreakPoint

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    Wilson already made a 93 sq. in. version of the Tour 90 for Federer. He tried it but didn't like it so he stayed with his 90. So Wilson gave the 93 to Dimitrov to play with. It looks exactly like the Tour 90 but with a 93 sq. in. head. If Federer played worse with a 93 than his 90, what makes anyone think he would play better with a 95? :confused:
     
  32. chrischris

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    So i take it you have the experience to tell him about tennis and rackets ?
    I think you think that you think too highly of your tennis and rackets knowledge. Food for thought?
     
  33. Praetorian

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    LOL... the funny thing about guys like him is that they tend to spew "knowledge", because they have no authority or accountability. Say just for $h!7s and giggles Roger decides to go ahead and switch, the following are the possible scenarios:

    Wins - I told you so. I'm a genius, I am a tennis god... etc. etc. etc
    Loses - "Well Roger needs time to adapt", or "He's getting old", or "The other players are getting into their peak".... blah blah blah, I think we'd all get the drift.

    If racket head size is all it takes to be successful, then everyone on this board would be clamoring for big bubba's, and lobbying congress to force a change of tennis rules to allow for even bigger head sizes to be allowed in tournaments.

    Fact of the matter is, there is not fact that "Federer would play better with a 95" racquet". Unless Federer is currently using 95" sq in head, in underground, untelevised, and and advertised, REAL matches, and blowing the likes of Novak, Andy, and Rafael away - even if in 20 years Roger says, "I should have switched to a bigger racket", even that is just an opinion and not a fact.
     
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    I don't see him as having any problems with the smaller frame. He does seem to miss an awful lot of smashes and swing volleys but i'm not sure if that's really racket related. I think if he did decide to go larger he'd really struggle to adjust, but I reckon he's manage.
     
  35. UCSF2012

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    There you go again making up information. Roger's #2 in the world, and Djokovic has a run away for #1. Over 2000 atp points more than Roger. Slam shut any attempt to retake #1 in the near future.
     
  36. MikeHitsHard93

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    Roger has 12165 pts. Novak has 11970.

    FED IS NUMBER 1!!!
     
  37. BreakPoint

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    And there you go being clueless as usual.

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

    Federer is currently ranked #1 in the world (as of the week of October 15, 2012), his 300th week as the #1 ranked player.

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/10/Features/Federer-300-Weeks-No1-Tribute.aspx#
     
  38. Bartelby

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    Youre probably confusing the race (calendar year) with rankings (past 12 months).



     
  39. BabolatTennis9

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    he probably wouldnt play any better with a 95 cause he builds up so much racket head speed that if he shanks its ganna be out anyway
     
  40. lendlmac

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    Now we can all agree Federer won't win the BIG games without a larger racquet.

    I guess it is safe to say, that Federer looked lost out there, did you see the shanks and mishits tonight? The power from Joker, the KING was too much for Federer to handle....

    Federer had a great year, and now he can play for pride, but he looked tired and old and lost...
     
  41. sureshs

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    He should move to a 95 frame if he wants to survive
     
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    or a little lighter
     
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    GREETINGS FROM BRAZIL!!!:mrgreen:

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    !!!!!!!!! Are you serious???!!!!!!!! You want to make the best player ever even better player? He knows, what is the best for his game!
     
  45. matchmaker

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    Ridiculous thread. A competitive player plays with what he feels is the best material. Roger even has a racquet made only for him and people want him to play with another racquet? Moreover the K90 feels really big. A lighter, bigger racquet would have a smaller sweetspot.
     
  46. andreev_forehand

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    I am aware of this.
     
  47. lendlmac

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    Looks like it's official! See all those shanks on that small racquet? Dimitrov doesn't have those problems....he is the NEW King!
     
  48. BreakPoint

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    Shanks are not caused by the size of your racquet. It's caused by your racquet head speed and your footwork. Only amateurs with no footwork think bigger racquets solve shanks. It's already been shown a million times on this board that Nadal shanks more with his 100 sq. in. racquet than Federer does with his 90.
     
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    Declining Federer has a tough time beating UNIGLO clothed players, that's all. :)
     
  50. thebluereverend

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    Pretty much this. I mean I have terrible footwork and I think I actually shank less with my 93 than I did with my 100 so I dont' think I small racquet upgrade would help Fed much.
     

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