Who thinks there will be another Federer vs Nadal final in Rome?

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  1. Shabazza

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    I'm just curious, both got through to the final pretty easily I'd say and I don't see anyone out there beating them atm. - We could be in for 3 finals between them the next few weeks...with the possibilty that Roger will lose up to 5 straight matches against Rafael or, hopefully, gets one of them...
    Anyway, exciting weeks are waiting for both fan-bases. :D
     
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  2. Moose Malloy

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    Honestly, I hope they both skip at least one of the next 2 masters series, because it will hurt their chances at the French to play so many matches.
    Both should be looking foward to Paris instead of wasting energy on these events. The claycourt season is very grueling, you need to have reserves. Playing 3 masters series events(which all have 64 draw) then playing 6 best of 5 matches to get to the French final is too much to ask.
    It would be a shame if they do play all 3 masters series final(no 2 players have ever contested all 3 in one season, I believe), then one or both is a little off or tired during an early round match at the French. And then we have to watch a Ferrer-Davydenko Roland Garros Final.
     
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  3. ACE of Hearts

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    I have a funny feeling that Roger will skip Rome.
     
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  4. VamosRafa

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    I think, with Rafa playing in Barcelona next week, that if he does well there, he cannot play both Roma and Hamburg.

    He'll have to see how he is feeling after Barca, and make a decision. I do know, though, that he wants to add the Hamburg trophy to his mantel.

    Roger has done the most talking about how he can get above Rafa, etc., but Rafa told the Spanish press a couple weeks ago that he wants Hamburg.

    So we shall see.

    But neither one of them wants to go into RG overdone.
     
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  5. Moose Malloy

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    And I think Nadal will(or should) skip Hamburg. So then we'll have to wait until the French for Round 2.
     
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  6. ACE of Hearts

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    Apparently, Roger is playing in Rome.Tony Roche is meeting him there.
     
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  7. Moose Malloy

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    I think that's a bad idea because you know he won't skip Hamburg. He will probably, at the least, be in the finals of Hamburg & Rome(unless he throws a match). That's a lot of tennis. No one has ever been in the finals of all three clay masters & then gone on to win the French. Not Guga, Muster, Bruguera, Ferrero or all the other dominant clay players. Most of those guys never played all 3 in one season, let alone come close to winning all 3 in one year.
    I think Fed is biting off more than he can chew. Hope he's fresh come French Open time. Otherwise, Nadal will be the least of his problems.
     
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  8. msn

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    By playing all 3, Fed is making a real honest push for the French this year. May not be the best strategy, but you'll got to hand it to him for making the attempt.
     
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  9. Moose Malloy

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    Was just looking at this study. Apparently Hamburg champs are less likely to win at Roland Garros than the other clay masters winners.
    Since 1990 only one Hamburg winner has gone on to win the French-Guga in '00.
    Maybe Fed should skip Hamburg.


    http://www.tennis28.com/studies/CW5.html
     
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  10. VamosRafa

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    Isn't there something, too, where the Monte Carlo champion generally goes on to win RG. I'm sure there are exceptions to that rule, but it would be nice to know the stats on that.
     
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  11. superman1

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    Federer just wants to eat up the clay this season. He wants all the practice he can get, and all the matches with Nadal that he can get. He's fit enough to handle it. This year is his best shot at the French title, so he's expecting to work harder than ever.
     
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  12. Shabazza

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    The conditions and the clay are very different to RG. No surprise about these stats. MC on the other hand is indeed a good indicator who'll win the French.

    I'd say if both reach the Rome-final, they'll both should skip Hamburg - Fed doesn't need to defend his points, cause of the ones he wins in Rome and Nadal...even I think that he isn't stupid enough to play 4 tourneys in 4 weeks before RG!
     
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  13. Tchocky

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    Fed is already commmitted to play in Rome & Hamburg. He wants to defend his Hamburg title and Nadal wants to defend his Rome title. I don't see Rafa playing Hamburg but the opportunity to beat Roger in 3 consecutive Master Series events may be too tempting.
     
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  14. fjgarciap

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    I agree with you. As I wrote on other post today, the more Roger plays Rafa the better for him to figure out the tactics to push him harder and revert the tendence of constantly losing to him. He might be seeking this confrontations in Rome and Hamburg to get better chances in the French Open.
     
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  15. dennis10is

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    If I have to guess, I would say that Roger wants to face Nadal as much as possible because it fits with what he has done to other players who had a winning record against him. As a champion he wants to test himself and he has that for sure, same as McEnroe and Borg. They want to face each other so this can only be good for Federer's development as a player and Nadal to me is also in the same mold. He'll want to face Federer whenever he can. This is fantastic for the sport, espeically the clay court season where the US basically ignores it. If Federer manages to take Rome away from Nadal, I can almost be sure that Nadal will play Hamburg and take Hamburg from Federer. Can you imagine that scenario? Awesome.

    If Nadal defends Rome, he may skip Hamburg and rest for RG, while Federer will definitely be going to Hamburg.

    FWIW, I was able to watch most of the match via Internet streaming and it was a cat and mouse the whole match. Federer tried different things, Nadal tried different things. Neither of them could maintain a consistent game plan because the other one would make the adjustments. Right now, Nadal is more comfortable making the adjustments, he plays within his expanding game, which is so well suited for clay. In contrast, Federer has to manage a larger repetoire but one that is suited for everything but not specific to clay. I think Nadal is hitting flatter when needed and played closer to the baseline and more aggressively when needed. So, he's definitely learning and adjusting. Roger is still experimenting with what combinations will work against Nadal, he tried everything and everything worked sometimes and sometimes not. Federer amazing variety works against everyone except Nadal and this is really interesting. Nadal is able to ignore whatever the opponent is trying to do, and imposes heavy topspin on anything. He reminds me of Borg and it is great to watch him just grind topspin against, top, flat, slice, loop, etc...

    If only I get the tennis channel!
     
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  16. superman1

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    I'm sure Federer would gladly lose all of these Masters finals against Nadal if it improved his chances in the French Open final. You almost get the feeling that this is just practice for Federer. In the end, no one really looks at your win/loss records throughout the years, or even the tournaments that you won. Grand Slams are all that matter. I don't know how many Masters titles Pete Sampras has, but I know he has 14 Slams. Federer is not afraid to lose the occasional match if it's a learning experience, and I'm sure he's surprised at how shocked people are when he loses.
     
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