Who was the more natural volleyer, Roddick or Djokovic?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Sid_Vicious, Jul 23, 2013.

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Better net player?

Poll closed Jul 28, 2013.
  1. Roddick

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  2. Djokovic

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  3. Equal

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  1. Sid_Vicious

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    Okay, both are great players but volleying does not come easy to them. Who do you guys think was better at the net?
     
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  2. Warmaster

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    I say Roddick. His biggest problem was his approach shot.
     
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  3. Sid_Vicious

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    Roddick definitely improved his volleying in 2009. His volleys became more "polished". However, back in 2003-2004 Roddick's volleys were horrendous. I remember his match against Hewitt at the 2004 TMC. When Roddick realized Hewitt was outplaying from the baseline, he became desperate and tried to volley and produced one of the most dismal displays of net play I have ever seen. It wasn't just the approach shots, Roddick was hitting sitters into hewitt's strike zone or the net.
     
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  4. SuperHead

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    Federer! :lol:
     
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  5. mattennis

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    Both players were a disaster at volleying and net game in general (given their great tennis talent in general, I mean).
     
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  6. sunof tennis

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    I agree with you the Roddick's approach shots and the timing of his approaches were generally awful. However, he was not a natural volleyer. I would say he and Djokovic had equally naturally bad (for a pro) volleying skills. I think Roddick improved his more though.
     
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  7. Rock Strongo

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    Like many have noticed, Roddick had hilariously awful approach shots but his volleys weren't half bad. When he was serving and volleying he generally had a good sense of where he was putting the ball and actually did that style of play really well.
     
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  8. FD3S

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    I'd say Djokovic. While Roddick was for the most part a generally competent volleyer who had the occasional flash of good touch, Djokovic seems to have a better sense of when to approach and how to approach, and shows in his volleys.
     
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  9. President

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    I think Djokovic is a more natural volleyer (not that either of them are very natural at all) but Roddick was probably technically better at the net because he worked really hard on his volleys over the years. Djokovic generally seems to have more success though because of his vastly superior approach shots, Roddick had no feel at all of how to properly place a forehand approach shot, always hit with way too much spin too.
     
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  10. 6-3 6-0

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    IMO, it's ARoddick. TBH, NDjokovic isn't that great at the nets (but still better than most of the players) and is certainly not better than ARoddick.
     
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  11. Chico

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    Clearly, Djokovic is better. How is this even question?
     
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  12. Chico

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    Also why are you talking about Djokovic in past tense?

    You people are unbelievable.

    Please stop disrespecting and undermining the current #1 and the best player in the world.
     
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  13. NadalDramaQueen

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    Relax, a differing opinion isn't a sign of disrespect.

    I think their volleying skills are pretty close, but Roddick was definitely much better at the net (even with the questionable approaches), if only because he had a much better overhead.
     
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  14. TMF

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    But picking Nole you can say that is disrespectful to Roddick. It works both way. Capiche ?
     
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  15. The Isomotion31

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    I like Roddick better at the net. Wish he was able to serve and volley and make better approach shot decisions.
     
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  16. Morj

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    Neither of them were natural at all but i think Roddick has shown more instances of touch than Djokovic.

    However, I'd actually give the edge to Djokovic overall in terms of who is better at the net because Djokovic's flexibility and athleticism allow him to cover the net better and make some pretty impressive "gets". I remember a few impressive volleys on the stretch at this years Wimby
     
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  17. papertank

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    Djokovic has been underrated at net in the past few years. He typically does a great job at net and knows when to come in. Neither are naturals, but I'd give the edge to Djokovic.
     
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  18. roberttennis54

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    Roddick was not a natural at net, but he got the job done. His biggest problem was sometimes he would panic during a match and rush the net foolishly. Still for most of his career Roddick was significantly better than Djokovic at net. Roddick had one of the best overheads in the game, not so much for Djokovic.
     
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  19. Steve0904

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    I hate sitting on the fence, but I'm going to have to say equal. Neither one of them is good enough for me to give one the nod over the other.
     
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  20. Defensive Tennis

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    I have to go equal. As Morj stated, I think Novak covers the net better, but Andy had better feel and overheads.
     
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    I was going to post this very thing
     
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  22. Anaconda

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    People need to understand the OP wrote in 'natural' in the title; Djokovic is the more natural volleyer. Roddick was not naturally a great volleyer because he never ventured to the net. He had to learn like when he was 23 when he realised hitting 0 forehand winners wouldn't get you very far on the ATP. Djokovic on the other hand at the start of his career was pretty competent at the net.




    If we asked, who was the better volleyer at the end. I'd go with Roddick. The guy has had to pull of the most unbelievable volleys to compensate for stupid approaches from 2006-2012



    Djokovic on the other hand had the better, and smarter net game. Djokovic; anticipates, has better touch and moves a lot better around the net than Roddick.
     
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  23. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Once Roddick was planted by the net, he got it done.

    His problem was how he got there. His approach shots had less juice than his normal groundies from the baseline. Or he slices it down the middle of the court.
     
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  24. roberttennis54

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    Even in 2004 Roddick volleyed better than Djokovic on average. Djokovic has blown so many big matches for his poor net game. He has one of the worst overheads in the top 30 as well.
     
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  25. TheCheese

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    Roddick was actually a pretty good volleyer towards the end of his career. His approach shots, however...
     
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  26. jackson vile

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    Federer's volley skills just got aired out at Wim. no less, his supposed best surface. Federer sucks at volleying compared to a true S&V player, and is only mildly better than others, and more often than not loses to Nadal when face to face at the net.

     
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  27. Russeljones

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    Odd because I can't remember a match where I thought Djokovic's volleys were good and they are quite scarce to begin with.
     
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  28. zagor

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    Well both look akward at the net but I actually think Roddick displayed better touch throughout his career and has a much better overhead.

    That said, Novak is faster going forward, approaches better (some of Roddick's approach shots were just terrible, who can forget those CC slice and loopy FH approaches) and smarter (at more appropriate times), he also I think covers the net better due to his speed and agility though Roddick did display a couple Boris Becker dives throughout his career (some of them even on HC).



    You're obsessed, read the title of the thread again and the OP, slowly.


    P.S. Fed won Wimbledon utilizing serve and volley as one of his main strategies (wake me up when GOAT Rafa manages to do the same), one loss at the age of 31-32 doesn't expose anything, other than the fact that he's human and that no one can win against time (don't worry though, we'll draw as many conclusions from Nadal losing at the FO in 2018, I reckon he'll get "exposed" too).
     
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  29. SuperHead

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    Chill down, dude. It was only a joke. :twisted:
     
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  30. dominikk1985

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    BTW is novak really a bad overhead player? or did we just remember some bloopers that anyone has sometimes?

    is he generally having a hard time against good lobs?
     
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  31. Morj

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    Brilliant, by this logic Federer's forehand has always been a terrible shot because he has been shanking recently. And he has always had poor footwork because recently he hasn't been moving as well. The level of play he shows now at age 31-32 is exactly how good he has been playing his entire career.

    Come on, Fed has always been considered an excellent net player, its part of his all-court game. Even his matches just last year at Wimby he exhibited some superb volleying. Net play is part of the reason Federer is considered one of the best all-court players of all time, he's not pure baseline like Rafa/Novak.
     
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  32. smoledman

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    Both equally horrible.
     
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  33. Chico

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    You both misunderstood me. All I said is that is it disrespectful to talk about Novak in past tense like he is retired, or god forbid something worse.
     
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  34. zagor

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    Don't worry I'm relaxed, it was just a suggestion made to you two nice accounts.
     
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