Who will beat Nadal on Clay in 2008?

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  1. deme08

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    I'm predicting that Nadal will be beaten on clay at least once (and perhaps 2 or 3 times the most) this year. Who do you think could take him down? Name 3 players that you think have the best chance.


    Ferrero, Juan Carlos First one who defeated Nadal!


    Federer, Roger (SUI)


    Djokovic, Novak (SRB)


    Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)


    Ferrer, David (ESP)


    Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA)


    Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)


    Murray, Andy (GBR)


    Almagro, Nicolas (ESP)


    Andreev, Igor (RUS)


    I don't see any other players outside this list could beat Nadal on clay.
     
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  2. Nadal_Freak

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    Federer and only in Hamburg.
     
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    An injury, which I hope will NEVER happen!
     
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  4. gj011

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    Where is the poll?

    Djokovic and Davydenko. I don't see anybody else that have even a remote chance. Federer is not playing good enough, Ferrer also, Almagro is a choker, he might go up 6-0 6-0 5-0 in RG and will still lose to Nadal, others are either not in the best form, injured, clay is too much trouble for them or are simply not that good.
     
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  5. fastdunn

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    Federer or Djokovic. Federer is still the best clay courter among all the players listed in OP, IMHO.
     
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  6. Nadal_Monfils

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    I'm going to go with no one.
     
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  7. counter_puncher

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    Ferrer will beat him in Hamburg!
     
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  8. counter_puncher

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    i mean Monte Carlo

    also he will lose to Safin 1st round in FO.
     
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  9. roddick89

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    Agreed, i'm hoping he goes thru the caly court season unbeaten to close the gap on fed.
     
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  10. Thor

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    Depends who will be the lucky guy o be in his draw in Hamburg - I suspect he'll be so tired from playing 3 tournaments in 3 weeks and winning them
     
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  11. ninman

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    Ancic has a good chance tomorrow of defeating Nadal. Everybody seems to think that his domination of clay will carry on forever. In my opinion it's gone on for a lot longer than it perhaps should have, Niemenen was up a set and a double break against Nadal, Hewitt nearly took him down in the semi's at Hamburg, Davydenko almost beaten him, Federer has beaten him and had match points against him in Rome 06, as well as 17 bp's against him at Roland Garros last year.

    PHM almost had him at Roland Garros in 2006 also. I think people have to just believe that they can beat him. In my opinion Federer should have taken him out in Rome 2006, and I think that defeat hurt Federer a lot more than he was willing to let on.
     
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  12. zagor

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    The guys who have a chance are Federer(if he improves his current form),Davydenko(obviously pushed him very hard last year in Rome),Djokovic(has yet to take a set from Nadal on clay but he is a better player this year and more confident) and Nalbandian(if he is fit,motivated and healthy).
     
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  13. Andres

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    Youzhny? Gonzalez? Murray? Tipsarevic?TSONGA????

    Nalbandian has a better chance than most of those guys, except Davydenko, Federer and Djokovic.
     
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    Agree with Hugh. Nalbandian is another guy that could do it. Actually only if good Nalbandian shows up. :)
     
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    He whipped Youzhny last year on clay. The same with Gonzo. Won't even comment on Tipsy. And Murray? The chances of Murray ever beating Nadal on a clay court are too small to compute. I would give Tsonga a fighting chance if he could overpower him. But Nalbandian is a safe bet.
     
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    Robert Dee, U.K.
     
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    Murray and Djokovic
     
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    I'm certainly not a Nadal fan, but I don't think he'll lose on clay this year. Only if he gets injured or playing a 7 hour long match and has to play another match the next day against a top opponent.
     
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  19. Nadal_Freak

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    Yes people got close to beating Nadal just like people have been close to beating Federer even more on clay. I'm impressed you got such a good memory on every single match Nadal struggled on in clay. Getting close and actually closing the deal are 2 different things. Nadal was exhausted last year in Hamburg so if he continues to play that crazy schedule than he will most likely lose there. Rome is the fastest clay court but I think Nadal can win that again.
     
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  20. diegaa

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    federer always have a shot. djoko too... besides these obvious choices im risking ferrer.
     
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  22. crawl4

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    hahah, when tsonga lost to him on hard court at IW how is he gonna win on clay. I no he whipped him in AO but its rare for a player to find that kind of form consistently and to do those kind of shots like his volleys is impossible all the time.

    Only federer, davey and Nalbandian have a chance.
     
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  23. (FEDERER)vs(NADAL)

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    it will be one of these 3...
    1. davydenko
    2. djokovic
    3. federer
    and of course possibly an injury. but i certainly don't see him going unbeaten this year. remember he hasn't won a title yet!
     
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    Well played, sir !!
     
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  25. NikeWilson

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    yeah, i'd say either Federer or Djokovic. but they won't. if one does, it's probably gonna be Djokovic. he's younger, and fresher and newer than Federer.
     
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    I could have sworn I wrote down, "I would give Tsonga a fighting chance if he could overpower him." I don't recall saying he would destroy him. And besides, his win over Tsonga in IW was less than convincing, but a win nonetheless.
     
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  27. IvanAndreevich

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    I'm looking forward to seeing Nalby vs Rafa for sure. And wanna see Novak vs Rafa, of course.
     
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    This is clay man. Tsonga's game does not suit clay. Too high risk and his parts of his game are neutralized.
     
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    fed, djokovic, murray, or ferrer

    davydenko's a choker in big matches usually, nalby's no match for nadal on clay although on hard court can teach him a lesson, and tsonga wouldn't win a set against rafa on clay. tsonga dominating or overpowering nadal on clay is some far-fetched delusion
     
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  30. edberg505

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    Oh, have you seen him play on clay?
     
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    so? what make you rule that out?
    what makes you think he cant beat fed?
    he won the other clay tournament and crushed daveydanko.
     
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  32. Leublu tennis

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    Davydenko has a real easy draw in MC and has been playing well, so this might be his chance against Nadal. If not, then Djokovic will have a crack at him in the finals. In either case, we get to see early how Nadal's clay season is likely to look.
     
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    I don't understand why you rule Roger out. Does he have a history of playing bad in big tourneys? :-?
     
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    I dont think many have considering he has only played 1 clay tournament to date. Now what does that tell you about Tsonga's view on his clay game?
     
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    Given this year´s schedule of the clay season (he should play 4 consecutive weeks from now) many players can do it if Nadal doesn´t withdraw or tank in some clay tournament. Who can do it against a fresh Nadal is a different question. And who can do it against a fresh Nadal in a best of 5 sets match is also a different question.
    As long as he wins the French Open he can lose some matches, that´s fine.
     
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  36. my_forehand

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    Federer (if he plays better), Davydenko, Ferrer (?), Blake :D

    Would be interesting to see Nadal-Guga in RG...
     
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    Somone sent me an article on him-54 straight losses until yesterday! Now that he's got a win under his belt you just never know...
     
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  38. deme08

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    Against a fresh Nadal it'd have to be either Federer or Nalbandian playing at their absolutely best.

    Against a slightly worn out Nadal, both Ferrer and Djokovic have a good chance of taking him down.
     
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    Somebody has to beat him. I'll say Djokovic.
     
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    Tsonga plays well on Clay. Once he gets over his most recent injury you'll see, hopefully at Roland Garros. But who will beat Nadal. I don't think anyone will.
     
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  42. welcome2petrkordaland

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    No one will beat Nadal at Roland Garros this year barring an injury, of course. I'd say this year and probably next year too.

    What a beast Nads is!
     
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  43. deme08

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    He surely is a machine on clay. Poor Federer, had so many chances...
     
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    tsonga is horible on clay, he didnt even play clay last year because he is so bad on it/hates it, now he kind of has too but hes not even a top 50 clay court player
     
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    Federer. Federer's the only one who's beaten Nadal on clay these last several years. He's the only one who took a set off of him at the FO last year. He's the only one with enough heart and stamina.

    Djokovic? LOL. Give me a break. A guy with not enough conditioning, not enough brains, and not enough heart and balls.
     
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    im not even sure there are more than 10 players even capable of beating Nadal on clay on his worst day, I cant say who I think will beat him because I think if Nadal doesnt win its more about him losing it because of fatigue(physical and/or mental) or injury not the opponent winning it, if 100% though I dont think Nadal loses on clay
     
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    You can't just win all the matches on your favorite surface for 5-10 years in a row. I'd say eventually someone in a 1st/2nd rd will play out of his mind and surprise him.
     
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    I think someone will beat a tired Nadal in Rome. Make your pick. It doesn't really matter. We may get a shock early in this event. Rafa will pull a muscle in his famous ass and become a wounded piggy.

    But he'll recover by RG and dominate there again.
     
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  49. lambielspins

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    I dont see why he would be tired. He did not lose a set at Monte Carlo and none of the doubles matches play a real 3rd set anymore.
     
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  50. fgzhu88

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    Federer is the only one with any chance of defeating a healthy Nadal on clay.

    Everyone else just dwarfs in comparison to Nadal and Federer on clay.
    Federer certainly has the tools to take out Nadal but he would have to keep up that Godly level of play we saw in the 4th set of Rome 2006. Which is very unlikely.

    Obviously Nadal is still the undisputed king of clay.
     
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