Who will fall in 09?

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  1. Michael Bluth

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    Who do you think will be the players who suffer from a dramatic fall in rankings this year? Last year some prominent examples were:

    Haas: 12 to 80
    Hewitt: 20 to 70
    Ferrero: 22 to 52
    Baghdatis: 16 to 96
    Chela: 19 to 141.
     
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    Fed will probably take another plunge (although not as low as the examples went) if he still has that back injury. maybe even down to #5 if Tsonga makes some magic and Murray lives to all the hype. But my bet for biggest Top 30 faller is Davydenko. He is past winning Slams and it's tough competition in the Master's.
     
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  3. norbac

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    I don't see either Fernando Gonzalez or James Blake doing much this year.
     
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    i can see nadal going to 3 or 4 if his knees act up again. davydenko will definitly fall. karlovic will the way the courts are slowing down
     
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    I see Djokovic isn't getting on too well with his new racket, i'm not predicting a major fall but he could struggle a bit.
     
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    Even if worst comes to worst and Tsonga does something bigtime, there is no way Federer would fall below Tsonga in the rankings IMO. Tsonga is nowhere near consistent enough a day in day out performer, he is hopeless on clay, and he is injury prone.
     
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  7. counter_puncher

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    Wow. Chela is now 141?
     
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  8. Michael Bluth

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    My own bets would be Blake, Gonzo and Ferrer.
     
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  9. joshburger

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    hel probably just stick with the racquet hes confortable with and put a paintjob on it, like all the pros do
     
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  10. norbac

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    Whoa, he's freaking old. He should've retired like 110 years ago.
     
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  11. Jack Romeo

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    apparently novak is actually using a new head racket. he said he struggled to serve with it in his first match this year. so maybe he will go back to the wilson and just do with a head paintjob.
     
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  12. mrmo1115

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    But I don't see them going down like the players that were mentioned in the first post.
     
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    Well said. Add Davydenko to that and that is my list. Maybe Karlovic as well.
     
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    Nadal will fall to the ground after winning his 2nd Wimbledon title!!!
     
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    Ljubicic, Robredo, maybe Berdych
     
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    We can't say that after just one match . I didn't see the match ,but Gulbis might have played a solid match. He is always dangerous. Nadal knows that, he tells press before playing Gulbis that it will be tough, I think this was at Wimbledon?
     
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  17. Feña14

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    Gulbis didn't play that well to be honest, Djokovic was just awful from the ground and his serve was even worse.

    As I said, i'm not predicting a major decline from him but with Murray, Nadal, and a possible resurgent Federer.. he can't afford to give an inch.
     
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  18. mrmo1115

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    Uh-oh, I say Djokovic won't win the AO...
     
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    I don't think he cared that much about that tournament anyway. I suspect he will be in much better shape at the AO. Remember the Master cup, not many people expected him to win it and yet, he did. I don't think he is the main favorite at AO either but I also don't think one should underestimate what he's capable of.
     
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  20. joshburger

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    i day blake falls into the low twenties and a big run for nishikori lol
     
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  21. GameSampras

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    Judging by the way Djoker played Gulbis, if he keeps this up he will end up falling instead of reach #1 or 2 in the world. It could most feasibly happen.. That inconsistent play of his isnt going to get him far. You never know what Djoker is going to show up these days. One day he can play like the best player on the planet, the next he sucks
     
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    Okay top 4 wise I am going to say Djokovic will be taking a bit of slip. Djokovic has a lot to defend early, and if he does not get on par he is going to see the biggest fall and it will be fast. Although his lead on Murray is huge and he is not that far behind Federer, Murray has nothing to defend at the Australian Open all he has to do is show up and his ranking stays the same...(and i bet he does more.) Federer on the other hand has to protect a semi. Even if he only makes it to the quarters if Djokovic doesn't win or misses the finals he will lose ground. Let us not forget he has two master series also, one being clay. I don't see him slipping too far, but if he doesnt shape up by France he can find himself sitting behind Murray and maybe a few more places back if someone else gets run. Though I see him staying in top 10..just there are chances he can fall out of top 5.

    I see Blake and Simon easily falling out of the top 10, but they have strong end of the years so they can hang around for a while..but I see them falling. Gonzo and Nalby are also taken hits in my opinion.

    I think Roddick is on the button I could see him falling but if he doesn't I will not be suprised...I mean I could see him playing decent enough tennis to be stable in the top 10 still. We will see though.
     
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    That would be very ironic because during all his Wilson years he has been playing with a mold based on a Head frame.
     
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  24. anointedone

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    I did not see the match but Gulbis hits the cover off the ball. Even vs the best players they are at his mercy to some degree to whether he is keeping his shots in court or not.
     
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  25. coloskier

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    I noticed that no one has said Roddick will fall. With all the Roddick haters on this board, I am shocked. Davydenko is already going to fall because of injury. Tsonga is too inconsistent. Gasquet can't get his head screwed on straight. Blake is another headcase. Never count out Karlovic, if for no other reason his serve. Baghdatis looks like he doesn't care any more. Moya might actually move up. Ferrer is done, everyone has figured out his game. Simon will probably run out of gas even faster than Nadal. Simon is a young Davydenko. Gonzalez is too inconsistent. I predict Murray will overtake Djokovic, but not Fed or Nadal. Nadal will have to cut back on tournaments this year or his body will crater. Either that or change to a more aggressive game to end points faster, which he is capable of doing but doesn't like to do it. People will start to figure out Murray's game this year, and Murray by the end of the year will not have the success he had at the end of last year.
     
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    He was injured most part of the season (he had surgery for something in his groin, i think). Besides, he isnt that old and he was a consistant top 40 for like 5 or 6 years. Why he should've retired? Nonsense.
     
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  27. bladepdb

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    Definitely Davydenko now in light of his recent injury. I don't think it'll be a huge drop in rankings for him but anytime someone who is in the top 10 so consistently drops out of the top 10 (which I speculate), it's usually a big fall for their career.

    I think Roddick is in a position where he can either climb back up or he will fall spectacularly. I'm guessing the latter.

    Blake is definitely done this year IMO as far as being in Top 10 is concerned.
     
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    Ferrer/Blake/Davydenko
     
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    Roddick will stay in his consistent lose to the top players and hang barely in the top 10. Not a huge dropoff.
     
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    I'm not sure about Karlovic. His game is so centred around that serve, that his movement could drastically worsen, and his drop would not be that dramatic. His enormous stride gets him to the net quick enough, and he rarely even has to play a volley :p
     
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    If davy has problems with injuries like he has already then he'll slide quickly. Gonzo and Blake don't have much left but they should stay within the top 30 this year.

    I predict Wawrinka will fall.
     
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  32. vmosrafa08

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    I don't know... we can't predict who will fail in 2009. It all depends on the player. Some players are prone to drop in the ranking system.
     
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    Yes, results such as the masters cup final at the end of last season really indicate davydenko is going to go down rapid in ranking.
     
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  34. akv89

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    The people who're going to drop the most are those who get injured and are forced to miss tournaments as a result, as evidenced by the four players mentioned from last year in the original post. Looking at how Davydenko is withdrawing from the AO, he might drop quite a bit depending on how his injury is resolved.
     
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    Davydenko will drop out of top 10 this year. Yes I know it's going out on the limb but I can sense it.
     
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  36. Michael Bluth

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    With Davydenko it depends on how badly he's injured. He didn't have that many points to defend at the AO.
     
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  37. LeftyServe

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    Every one of those guys suffered significant lost playing time because of injuries. So maybe the question is: which players are most likely to dramatically fall in ranking as a result of injury? Davydenko's a good bet. Tsonga, maybe?
     
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  38. tacou

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    lose to top players? hmm... I remember him quite clearly spanking one Rafael Nadal in Dubai. I think Roddick will go top 5 this year, possibly better.
     
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    You or any other person will MAYBE look like a genius, being that he just withdrew from the Australian Open with a heel injury. Please stay out on that limb....
     
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    Maybe Ferrer, but big run this year for Stakhovsky. This guy is playing very aggressive!
     
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    i agree with the chela one!!!
     
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    I think djoker drops. He seems to me streaky at the moment. I think blake will stay about the same and Roddick will move up a couple of spots. Nothing to defend at slams. I think Ferrer drops, especially with his form at the moment. and I think Lopez moves up :)
     
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    i second this post.
     
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    You read it here first, it is going to be either Nadal or Djokovic. :twisted:
     
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    Moya is finished. If you saw him at Madrid, losing to Kohlschreiber, he looked disinterested and tired. At 32 and ranked 42, he's on the brink. He lost in the first round at Chennai after reaching the semi's against Nadal last year, so he's already lost plenty of points.

    People are underrating Karlovic. SandVers develop later, he's only getting better.

    I agree, Blake has to play smarter or he's in the thirties.
     
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    ......

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    my forecast on this topic

    Tsonga - out of the top 20
    Nalby - down 30+ spots
    Nadal - outside the top 5
    Soderling - outside the top 20
    Monfils - outside the top 30
     
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    Nadal outside top 5 could not possibly happen this year after he won 1 slam and several masters. (And don't forget he didn't play master cup last year, he can only win points there.)
     
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    im only saying this because hes recovering from injury, i, by no means, see him staying outside the top 5, but i cant see him holding in there and being actually 100% til AO next year where i predict him being runner up to murray and starting the climb for dominance again.

    Roddick and Del Po, if continued will earn enough to make it close if not pass. they both could easily have over 7k points after the uso, and roddick, like rafa, has 0 points to defend in the masters. maybe it will be djokovic who falls outside the top 5 but roddick and del po if things continue will both be inside the top 5 forcing out someone.
     
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    He doesn't look that bad to me. He may not be good enough yet to recover #1 spot but I can see him recovering #2 by November (especially since Murray has a lot of points to defend in the next months)
     
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