Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by safin_protege, May 8, 2005.
Pretty simple, who will win the French Open, and why?
This poll sux and its rigged. The following people have about .000000001% chance of winning.
David nalbandian - out of form
Gaston Guadio - out of form, was never a FO contender, should have lost to coria last year if coria didn't choke, and basically he's a 1 hit wonder
Carlos Moya - out of form
Marat Safin - mental case
Llyeton Hewitt - injured
I like your list of contenders, but would have thought Ferrer and Gasquet also deserve a mention. Im voting Nadal providing he does not burn-out in Hamburg. Moreover, hes attitude and mental toughness is immense for an 18 year old. This leads me to believe he can go all the way.
I agree with you, but comeon Gaudio is the former champ and has beaten Nadal over 3 sets this year on clay. I doubt he could beat Nadal or Coria based on current form but I consider him a dark-horse.
Nadal is definitely the favorite right now, with Coria being a close second based on the results in the past two TMS tourneys. Federer though definitely has a chance provided he gets healthy and has a favorable draw. Also, I wouldn't count Gaudio out just yet. He was playing some of the best clay court tennis down in South America earlier in the year. He's still a threat.
Yes he was playing some good tennis vesus subpar top 30-50 players. Yes he did beat Nadal but every player has a few matches where they're in the zone: they'll beat anyone!.. But to win 7 straight matches for the FO is a totally different story..
The only person that will win the FO is someone with a very consistent performance.. No erratics!
Solid contenders are Rafael Nadal, Guillermo Coria, Roger Federer, David Nalbandian and possibly Gaston Gaudio.
As for the dark horses, I have a ton ::
Igor Andreev (Took Nadal out in straight sets on clay this year en route to the title. He also made it to the Gstaad final last year and took a set of Federer in that match.)
Alberto Martin (A solid baseline grinder and clay court specialist.)
David Ferrer (Had a surprise run in Miami AMS and made it to the semi's. Also took out Gaudio 6-0 6-1 and gave Nadal a heck of a time on Friday.)
Albert Costa, Juan Carlos Ferrero, Felix Mantilla, Carlos Moya, Alex Corretja, Gustavo Kuerten (might sound like a little wild pick, but never count out a champion)
Yeah dont count out trichampion GUSTAVO, he is capable of rolling back the years at RG. He was very close to making the semis last yr.
no way guga is winning this year. no way hosey
Guga or Safin
Guga needs some desperate form, hes match against Pavel will provide an indication of hes progress.
Honestly, can we count federer out already?
Unless nadal has a mental problem, he will most likely win, unless guga feels serious.
Oh guga is not going to feel serious.. He is just coming to poke around at the frenchmen, and maybe get some autographs...
I'd bet on Nadal, he's just too much on fire right now. For second I'd pick Coria, who I'll root for to win it.
How about Andy Roddick? He won the US Clay Court Championships a couple weeks ago...
MWAHHHH HAAAAA, HAAAAAAA, HAAAAA.....
(I like the guy, but would be surprised if he got past the 4th round... and he will need a good draw to get that far.)
I think Federer, Coria, Ferrero, Safin, Nalbandian, and Nadal have the best chances. However, the French can be brutal and guys like Ferrer, Costa, Guga, Gaudio, and Hewitt... they can rise up at any moment and not necessarily to win the whole tournament, but to certainly knock one of the favorites out of contention.
Best joke ever, roddick win the FO LOL I'll eat natural gut strings if he wins the FO.
Should have at least put Ferrero on the poll. He's had a tough year so far, but did get to the final in Barcelona among other things. I don't think he'll do that well but I want him to win. Fact is Nadal or Coria is going to win, unless someone throws a bear trap on the court.
Sorry for the missed players on the poll, but the limit was 10, and these are some good choices.
I agree that Nadal has a great chance; he has been playing well on clay and in general. He's mentally tough and will be going into the Open with a lot of momentum.
And for the first reply; Yes, we all know that Safin is a headcase...but did he not just play to his ability? He won the Australian Open and something has obviously snapped into place in his...immensly talented but messed up mind. I wouldn't count him out
I'll go for Gonzalez, everyone loves an underdog.
I believe that he will win it one day, why not this year?
He is a real dark horse but has pushed Federer and Coria on clay and been unlucky with his clay TMS draws.
I'll be keeping an eye out anyway
Andy Roddick should be in there. Despite not fairing so well he still has his hopes up and a #1 fan like me. Andy proclaims he is in the best shape that he has ever been going into the French and he has no excuse this year for not doing well. As long as Andy is confident and trusts in himself, the work with Dean Goldfine and off court will pay off. We will have to see.... I can not really pick who will win but Nadal, Federer, Gaudio, and Coria on the top of my list.
Andy Roddick will not win the French Open; not because he is not in good enough shape, or that his strokes need work...The fact is, his game is just not suited for clay. In case you don't know, clay is the slowest of all surfaces, so Roddick, a power hitter, will have his biggest weapon eliminated.
Andy Roddick All The Way
Pete Sampras's game was not suited for clay and he still managed to get to the semifinals best. Who is saying that Andy can't win two more matches more than that?
I would love to see it, but I don't think it's going to happen. With his "go for broke" style even if he does get on a hot streak, I can't see him being able to maintain it to the end.
It would be tough for me to bet against Nadal the way he's playing right now.
Moya would be my "dark horse" pick, even though he's a former winner.
No, Sampras's game was not, but it is my belief, and I'm sure others would agree, that Sampras was more talented than Roddick. Where are Roddick's game is 80% power, Sampras could hit with sometimes as much power, but he had more control and could set up points better than Roddick. Sampras could overcome his ill-suited clay game because of overall talent, whereas Roddick cannot.
yes, very good point made safin_protege. you know your stuff.
Roddick probably has as good a chance as Fed Man but I don't think either will win. Nadal should be favored but I look for a dark horse to pull it out, someone not even considered. Just don't ask me who, haven't a clue.
I think Federer and Nadal will play in the final, and Nadal will come in overconfident because he almost beat Federer on hard courts, and Fed will win out.
A-Rod, to dream the impossible dream, eh? As long as he avoids Massu, the Roddick-killer
Even if you believe Andy Roddick can win the French Open(which I personaly think is ridiculous, but you are entitled your opinion)I find this example interesting to say the least. The part Sampras did this and is not suited to clay, so even if Andy is not suited to clay.......I understand. However the part about so why can't Andy win two more matches than that is amusing. There is a huge difference between making the semis of a slam, and winning a grand slam, the two are not even close at all. Well in some rare cases they are but not in this case(Sampras lost 7-6, 6-0, 6-2 in the semis).
I said it before and I will stand by it, Andy Roddick I expect to lose in the 3rd round or sooner of the French, and will be very surprised if he passes that round.
It would be a fariytale if Guga won a fourth french open crown. If he continues to play agressive, like he did against Pavel he has a chance to go deep. The reason I am confident in Gugas ability is that last year he made the quarters playing against the pain barrier. This year Guga is playing pain free with better mobility. However he serious lacks match rhytham. He's match against Robredo will give a good indication of hes chances.
as much as i love him, federer won't make it. nadal will win.
I said it before and I will stand by it, Andy Roddick I expect to lose in the 3rd round or sooner of the French, and will be very surprised if he passes that round.[/QUOTE]
Yeah A.ROD seeding will protect him in the early rds, but he is likely to be shot down by a clay court specialist in rd 3.
Federer has established himself by winning big clay court tournaments in the past, and his dominace over the tour. ppl in the top 100 are good, if they are playing really good on a given day and fed is average they will beat him, but barely as proven.
id say the usually clay courters. costa (never goes down easy there), coria, nadal, federer, gaudio (similiar to costa), hewitt (but he would have to work his butt off, and would need a good draw vs short point players).
moya is hurt, roddick and agassi dont have it mentally, safin (won his tournament of the year, rest is vacation).
Please dont agree with me. It isnt any fun anymore then. :mrgreen:
I think Agassi is more likely to advance further then Roddick at RG. I would like to see young guns like Gasquet and Monfils pull put some big wins by using the home crowd advantage. Infact the French have a good field at RG this year: Monfils, Gasquet, Santoro, Grosjean. Do you think a home-grown player can take the FO crown??
The French players are good but they are not good enough to win the FO. Grosjean has probably played his last Grand Slam semi, he is a good player and will continue to post some good results, but his career has already seen its best days. Santoro will get overpowered at some stage. Gasquet nor Monfils are definitely not ready for that kind of a run in a slam, to do it in a slam with best 3-out-of-5 sets and the atmosphere and intensity of a slam, is totally different than a Masters Series event(eg-Gasquet at Monte Carlo).
Gugoo has no hope
Neither does an Aussie.
Nadal, Federer, Coria have the best chances along with the being the safe bet.
Dark Horse: Ferrer (i'm telling you guys....this man is heating up)
This is a joke right? How does Roddick has as good as chance as Federer on clay? They both won't win this year but Federer can be in the list as the dark horse, Roddick? No way.
Federer, Federer wil win FO.
I think one of the things that makes clay harder for Fed and Roddick, is that they dont win as many free points off of their serves. While both have very good groundstrokes, especially Federer, there are many others who, who feel they can win enough of the baseline rallies to win if they are getting every serve back; plus psychologically it is difficult for them to get used to being used to winning so many free points off their serves on faster courts.
I think at present, Nadal is the man to beat. He's hungry, he's young, and he's in terrific condition (save his hand). His game is very well suited to dirt and his youth enables him the patience that older players lose. He's willing to stay out there all day if needed.
You forgot to put Guga on there. He'll pull thorugh
Nadal. No problem with that, although I wish there were a larger number of TRUE dirt-ball contenders besides Coria and Gaudio.
Fed's always a threat in my book.....funny though, remember how just a year ago Federer was touted as a guaranteed lock to win the Grand Slam?....and how Sampras on his best day wasn't in the same universe as the Roger? Anyway, let's hope Fed gets his game going, because this cowboy does not want to see a repeat of the b.s. from last year's final.
Anyone have any Kentucky Derby type darkhorse threats out there?
I would agree that the clay will take the power off Roddick's serve, and therefore will cripple him, but I disagree that the slower surface will affect Federer's serve more than anyone. Yes, Federer can hit with power, but, on the serve, he has exceptional placement, and can set up points just as well as he can hit by someone.
It remains to be seen what kind of weather it will be in Paris... if it is going to be warm, sunny days than I see Roddick and Agassi making few good wins, while clay courters will suffer.. but if it's rainy, cloudy, cold than Roddick, Agassi might not win a match.. Fed can play in cold conditions, he won Hamburg (the slowest) couple of times afterall...
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