Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by tennisplayer1993, Mar 13, 2013.
2004 Roddick or 2007 Nadal?
bump what do you guys think?
Nadal for sure
If it's played on actual fast grass, than Roddick obviously.
If it's played on slow grass, than probably Nadal; but even then Roddick 2004 would have a good chance of winning.
Nadal 2007> Roddick 2004 IMO, could well be a five setter though.
Roddick 2009 could make mincemeat of Nadal 2007 though...
Nadal in five sets I'd say.
It would be a close final, but I would give Nadal the edge.
Roddick of 2004 was much better than Roddick of 2009. Roddick of 2009 was better than 2006-2008 but still couldnt even beat a very subpar Federer (who Nadal for sure would have beaten had he been able to play that years Wimbledon) in the final.
I'd have to go with Nadal. He pushed Federer to 5 sets in '07. I can't think of any reason to go with ARod in this hypothetical matchup.
Even as a Roddick fan, I think this would be true. However, I think it would be a very entertaining match!
Roddick 2009 was a mean machine. Even in the slower courts. He finally adapted to them and was probably at his peak. That was heart breaking watching him lost that tie break of wimbledon 2009 against fed. He was never quite the same after that
Im an aussie, but he's my favourite player too. IMO if the courts and balls were never changed the big 4 would've been Roddick, Fed (still a good player in the quick courts) Blake and Hewitt (strangely enough Lleyton favoured fast courts too - He was the aussie version of michael chang, but far more angry and anti social - Blake and Hewitt never got along back in those days because of it. The Aussie's liked Blake more for that reason at the time. Hewitt's nicer and different now that he's totally whipped )
bump? lol i feel like we could get many opinions on this thread
I'd say Roddick. While Nadal was rounding nicely into form by this point, he was still vulnerable to big hitters/big servers on fast surfaces, and Roddick in the 04 final was delivering massive pace from everywhere with a surprising amount of consistency. Remember, Fed didn't start winning until he changed his strategy; up until that point he was trying and generally failing to cope with Roddick's power from the baseline, and only after the rain delay did he start chipping and slicing more, making Roddick either have to pass him or come in and hit a lot more volleys then he had earlier in the match. Would Rafa make that adjustment? Possibly, but I'm not sure if he would be able to pull it off as well as Federer did.
I vote for Nadal and his passing shots at Wimbledon, on either the old courts at Wimbledon or the new ones. He plays the critical points far better than Roddick.
Hard to say. Most of you pick Nadal mainly because he pushed Roger to 5 sets, but remember Nadal was pushed to 5 set by Soderling, who I don't think is as good as Roddick in 2004.
Yes great logic, a players form in the 3rd round means more than a players form in the final, the round the hypothetical match would have taken place. More daily genius The Master of Fail logic.
To be honest, Roddick seemed like a totally different player with super consistency during that match. I still think in terms of quality tennis (especially his first set), this match was his highest despite losing it.
I'm of two minds of this - while I concur that this was Roddick's peak in terms of his power-baseline game, the 09 version that played Fed had a markedly improved net/transition game even though his groundies had lost some pace. With that said, I'd probably take 04 Roddick too - I mean, I still honestly think that Fed's the only person who would have beaten him in that final. Even Hewitt - who ate pace off serve and groundstrokes for lunch - would have been hardpressed the way Roddick was hitting and serving.
Another note I also forgot to throw in regarding the hypothetical match against Nadal - Nadal wouldn't read/return Roddick's serve nearly as well as Federer, and considering even Roddick's second serve was doing significant damage that day...
How is this even a question? 2004 Roddick would destroy any version of Ralph. Ralph's moonballing won't work against him. Roddick's serves would be whistling past Ralph's ears. :lol:
Also Roddick beat Hewitt at Queens that year in a close match. I also think if it wasn't for Federer, Roddick would beat anyone else in the 2004 Wimbledon finals
What's so funny?
any more thoughts?
We are talking SLAM finals here. Roddick was historically not the most level headed player when it came to slam finals. (I can't even count all the brain farts he had vs. Fed over the years in slam finals and with some other guys). Nerves always got the best of Roddick and one way or another he would take jack up a big point.
Maybe if it was Roddick-Rafa in a QF match or something.. Possibly. But no doubt nerves would get the best of Roddick and Nadal reigns supreme.
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