Who's ready for Sandy?!

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  1. kiki

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    Sandy Mayer never reached that heat...
     
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    Hope everyone in the hurricane's path is safe tonight.
     
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    You might want to make sure the batteries in your CO detector are fresh and/or explain to them electrical power is not necessary after they expire in their sleep (RIP Vitas)!
     
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    my god... Just saw pictures of the lower east side is completely flooded.

    Be safe my friends.
     
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    I conducted a survey and turns out I have one battery-operated radio and the only suitable battery is inside the fire alarm on the ceiling.:lol: Next time I’ll just buy a canoe to sleep in, just in case the whole island goes underwater lmao…
     
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    ^^^Manorhaven and Sands Point are probably a virtual island of their own right now...Shore Road in Port Washington used to flood badly in mere conventional rainstorms when I lived there. Take your canoe up there...might take a few hours from Jamaica!
     
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    That sounds like a wonderful idea for a trip tonight. Heck, with sustained 45mph winds I won’t even need a paddle! I could just grab onto the downed electrical lines in the water to navigate!!:lol:
     
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    As someone who lived in Forest Hills (1970 - 1979) and for the last 30+ years in the Houston area my deepest hopes are that all in the North East get through ok.
    Having lived thru quite a few Hurricanes it's not fun.......with our last big storm (IKE in 2008) we had NO power for almost 11 days and it took a week before the first gas stations opened - of course none had gas on a regular basis......

    I'm sitting in Siania, Romania this week on holiday and watching all this Sandy stuff live on Sky News and CNN and FOX Global........horrible fire in Breezy Point.
     
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    Power shutoff to lower manhattan. Holland, midtown, path train, and 7 other subway tunnels flooded and holding seawater. Looks like its gonna be a while before power is restored. Power station blew up on westside last night. Joeldali sent me eyewitness report. Gonna be a lot of ice cream melting at every corner store :(

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    Here on lawn guyland, power was out but came back on overnight (although my village has its own power plant and utility and I've seen them out cutting down trees and fixing lines). Town next door doesn't have power. South side of my town that's at sealevel flooded big time. At the height of the storm, flooding extended to 3 blocks away and I'm at ~19 ft above sea level. Reports of strong rogi-like 2nd serve speed winds recorded out here on the island too.

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    Looks like the flooding going to be the biggest issue......watching CNN now and they are showing the guy in Atlantic City and all the water gone and damage pretty light compared how bad it could have been.

    I guess living on the gulf coast and going thru this on a regular basis kinda jades you and you get used to it.

    The worst was the scientist CNN had on last night (grey haired Asian - cannot remember his name but is one of their talking heads) going on and on about how this was going to cause like 3000 deaths and that it would be the biggest disaster ever!!! Thank god those numbers are way wrong and at least hope the worst has happened.
     
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    Irene last year , Sandy this year.. is this
    new norm for the East Coast?
     
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    If you look at the past history of Hurricanes late season storms hitting the Atlantic states quite normal.......most have just not hit that far north - it has happened before -
     
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    Now that everyone will start looking to clean up just wait for all these poor folks start calling their insurance companies and finding out the deductible on the policy will be based on a fixed percentage of the property value and not the flat $500 or $1000 for normal events. OUCH!!!! Many many many of us on the gulf coast after post Katrina events had that wonderful present.
     
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    It may be normal for a hurricane to hit in October, but all the experts have argued that this is quite an unusual storm. See earlier posts for details.



     
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    Where did you find that data?
     
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    americans should devise something to prevent this natural calamities from occurring instead of assigning names to hurricanes
     
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    The storm is incredibly large. I don't recall seeing one that covers such a wide expanse.

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    LMAO even during Sandy... hipsters can instagram.

    They are unstoppable it seems.
     
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    Some horrible stuff! Best wishes to my fellow north east Americans. VA wasn't hit too bad, relatively speaking...
     
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    1. Recent article in the Finanacial Times in the UK about recent late season storms.

    2. hurricaneville.com - they have data and info on hurricanes and storms that go back all the way to 1500 -

    Any school kid who lives on the gulf coast and has had to do a report on named storms has checked out hurricaneville.com
     
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    Believe in the power of jolly

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    Haha, I wonder if the courts in the east coast will play faster after being sand-blasted by debris/rain and such.
     
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    students in the east coast are happy becasue of 3 days of class cancellation, monday - wednesday.

    Last night my whole school lost power for 1 hour, and whole school lost internet/wifi for like 20hrs.
     
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    From the looks of that picture (post 70), there will be a lot of used cars for sale on the east coast. Beware salvage titles.
     
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    Im sorry but i still find this hard to believe.

    When and where has a storm of this size happened before along the Atlantic states in recent years??
     
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    The Breezy Point devastation hits me personally...my ex-in-laws had summered there on the Irish Riviera for 30 years before winterizing their bungalow to live yearround on the beach. It is a tight knit community in spirit, largely helped by the proximity in space between the bungalows. Thankfully, there were no fatalities but it will be a tough rebuild for many.
     
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    Yes their story is heart breaking , such tradgedy and really unlucky with the fire spreading like that . Horrific.
    I feel for all involved .
    Its even worse to see the detachment from the obivous in that warmer oceans lead to amped up weather and freakier patterns than we have been used to for the last generations .
    Just too much emissions out there that deteriorate the values and services we are depending on.
     
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    50 billion dollar bill from the Hurricane and a 10 billion dollar bill if flood barriers are built. An assessment:



    “Three of the top 10 highest floods at the Battery since 1900 happened in the last two and a half years. If that’s not a wake-up call to take this seriously, I don’t know what is."
     
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    where did you find those figures?

    According to economists that have studied the costs of and the values lost in terrain where we dont curb carbon emissions the bill wont increase linearly but exponentially.
    Stern,Daly,Jackson,Costanza etc.



    Seems like it. The key may be 'cognitive dissonance,do you agree?
     
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    The Northeast was long overdue for a cyclone or two. They had not been hit in a very long time.

    For awhile, I thought Florida was immune to hurricanes. Sure we got a tropical depression or storm every year but no hurricanes. Then 2004 brought 3 hurricanes across the state in 6 weeks and another one that hit the panhandle. Hurricane Wilma hit South Florida the following year.
     
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    Sandy actually caused death and devestation in Haiti and Cuba long before it got to the Big Apple as well.
     
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    Don't forget Jamaica and the Bahamas!
     
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    How can we best prepare and hinder these storms form getting even worse in the future , given that they increase their impacts if given higher water temps and more water vapor?
    Do we have a chance now to say do something constructively for the sake of our security and health ?

    These events wont go away but i hope we can find better ways of not contributing to their powers.
     
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    If New York was still in Dutch hands there would of course have been almost no flooding whatsoever.

    Even if you think its just the normal weather, Dutch public mindedness and great engineering would have solved this problem decades ago.

    Even the English now have the Thames Barrier.
     
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    was suppose to play tournament on friday under the bubble. don't think its happening anymore. these courts will be playing like a swamp for the indefinite future. Heard at work this morning that a building my company does consulting for that is located in the same town, behind the boardwalk on the the atlantic ocean, flooded the basement and damaged the boiler, which apparently runs on diesel, and is now leaking and the area is contaminated. fck.

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    Many small steps by each of us to reduce our personal carbon footprints can have a positive long-term effect. They may not seem like much but if you follow the serenity creed (God give me the power to change what I can, the serenity to accept what I can't and the wisdom to know the difference between the two) in making personal decisions and stick to them, all of us together can change the trend. Here's a few examples from my personal agenda:

    1. I can't afford the purchase of a more fuel-efficient car but I CAN inflate tires properly for max mileage, tune up again for efficiency, and drive in a conservative style. I also commute via mass transit at least once a week.

    2. The Brita water bottle: no more wasted plastic bottled-water. Tastes great and saves money as well.

    3. The coffee mug: when ordering coffee with breakfast, it's poured into my mug and saves 7 paper cups a week.

    4. Beer & soda: cans only! The aluminum is recyclable and earns $.55/lb. My recycler is on my way to work so no mileage wasted there. I also often walk to my neighborhood convenience store and pick up the cans thrown from cars onto sidewalks and road shoulders.

    5. At least an hour per night, I shut everything down that consumes electricity (fridge is an exception...doesn't make any saving). It's actually quite relaxing to sit quietly in the dark or in my yard with my dogs and reflect on the day or plan for the next day.

    6. Run the AC/heater at as high/low temp as comfortably possible. Here in Florida, I'm now entering "poor people's weather", when neither are necessary for more than a few hours on the coldest nights!

    So, in short: figure out what you can do, take action and feel good about your effort! Tell your friends and family! We CAN do so much to change trends

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    Here in Florida, the coastal homes can't get private insurance. So our wonderful State government created an insurance pool for them. Now I get to subsidize the fat cats over on the coast.
     
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    Insurance and infrastructure are two entirely different things!

    One is to prevent damage in the first place (infrastructure), while the other is only reactionary (insurance) and profit driven...
     
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    What the reason behind that coastal homes cant buy private insurance? Is it because the insurance companies see it as a risky proposition due to the increasing amount of energy that is in the climate system and thus damages can become 'abnormal'?

    On subsidizing: How do you feel about the fact that taxes finance subsidies in the nation that then go to oil businesses?
    10 billion.. http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

    They seem to get handouts and thereby make emissions of carbon go up which then in turn cause the climate system to produce amped up weather and storms, that is a 'situation' and dilemma , dont you agree?
     
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    Thanks for explaining that Sparky. :)
     
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    How do you feel about $600B for failed green energy companies?
     
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    Mike, you always ask questions instead of giving answers. Why do you do that?

    Here is my answer to your question. Please show mutual respect and answer the questions i put to you in my earlier post regarding coastal home insurance and oil subsidises, in your next post.


    Answer:
    I think you have the facts wrong. Here you can look it up.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/romneys-clean-energy-whoppers/
     
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    Stringertom ,
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    ok, yes thats right.
    Nothing gets done unless you begin:)
    With time and sustained effort , results will come, otherwise we can face unacceptable consequences.
    Most people feel that they want to contribute and sometimes they are scared to do mistakes since its not all that easy to be a sustainable superhuman. there are some that find 'pleasure' in finding faults , small medium or large, with ones efforts . Rather than reflect for a second or 2 over their own.
    But you know , a baby cant run before standing up.
     
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    Yes, I did know about this but the problem is also that the private real estate developers did a job on the state government to make them do this to ensure the viability of the industry, as they see it, of course.



     
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