Who's Up & Coming in USA Juniors ???

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  1. Milan

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    Boys 14's and 16's.. Who's got the game to make it Professional or at least Top Collegiate Player?

    I hear these names thrown around Kozlov, Rubin, Blumberg, Kerznerman, Volk, Wiersolm, Sharma, Kodali, Levine, etc.. Any good? Any others?
     
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  2. Tennishacker

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    Connor Hance and Dieton Baugman, both have great support teams.
     
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  3. Ash_Smith

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    You had all four boys semi-finalists at Les Petit AS this year and the girls runner up. Tiafoe and Blumberg, looked good for different reasons, Pontwith and Mmoh looked tidy too.

    Cheers
     
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  4. chalkflewup

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    While it may be fun, it's extremely difficult to crystal ball 14 year old boys into the pros. Too many variables and unknowns but, I think we have a stable of up and coming kids.
     
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  5. Number1Coach

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    A few years ago in Carson , Ca there was a kid there I got to watch he went out early i think 3rd round but you could see his game was being built for the pros by the way he moved and swung the racket , his serve motion was really nice better then the player that beat him "the ncaa Champion Bradley Klahn"

    Well a few years later and this kid has done a pretty nice job on the tour he didn't go to Stanford or USC but Milos Raonic has done well ,, because he and the people he had around him could see that the technique and movement and conditioning were important ,,today we look for results , just look for the builders .
     
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    nvm....................
     
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  7. tenniscp

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    Tough to judge at 14 and predict but Kozlov is certainly ahead of the bunch with being 14 and top 60 in ITF rankings.

    Have seen Weirsholm, Rubin, Kerznerman, Sharma, Levine, Kodali.Pretty good but nothing that stands out.

    Kozlov and Tiafoe are the two to follow, I think.
     
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    Well, said. How are you building your prodigy, Brad? You have been so quiet nowadays that I am not sure what to make of team Baughman and his prodigy Deiton. Are we going to see you guys playing wild card next year at Indian Wells, that is 2013.
     
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  9. Rob_C

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    Having seen a clip of Tiafoe, whats up with the lack of a ready position on his forehand?? I cant see how that wont turn into a problem as he gets older and the balls start coming faster.

    For those of you that havent seen him play, on his forehand, he doesnt hold the racket at the throat with his off hand, his left hand. He just spins the racket to the 'correct' forehand grip without using his left hand.

    I'd love to hear some coaching input on this from TCF, errrrrr, I mean CoachDad, or any coaches.
     
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    In the mental toughness department, Kozlov competes as though he's 21...big, big heart. The gap is narrowing though, and it will get interesting as other kids grow into their bodies.
     
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    I wouldn't say it was lack of ready position, his non-dom hand doesn't extend across his body as much as some players, but not to the point where it inhibits his shoulder rotation. I really like his forehand having seen quite a bit of him in Tarbes, his takeback is quite 'straight' back for my usual taste, but he maintains a good wrist angle and he accelerates exceptionally well into the contact.

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  12. chalkflewup

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    When Nadal wraps a lasso forehand around his shoulder, it's not technically perfect. Delpo's missile forehand isn't perfect either. Bottom line...Tiafoe can play tennis and he can drive the forehand. Has a great feel for the game, great hands, sick droppers. Serve needs to get better but it will with age.
     
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  13. Number1Coach

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    didn't Delpo enter the tour and for a couple of years served about 115mph tops? iT HAS INCREASED A LITTLE.
     
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  14. Number1Coach

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    nadals forehand is perfect ,,he reinvented the forehand now everyone will catch up soon ,,just like roddicks serve motion didn't look like sampras so it was wrong then after many years everyone caught on.
     
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    Two excellent quotes in a row. I really like the first one, "the builders". Well done Brad!
     
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  16. chalkflewup

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    Is DB's FH grip extreme like Nadal's? Does DB lasso around his head now on the FH? Nadal's FH is a freak much like the Kareem skyhook. Others didn't follow because it's too unconventional.
     
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    oops wrong thread
     
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    I think you misunderstood my point. When he's switching to his forehand grip, his left hand doesnt touch the racket at all, he just rotates his grip over to his forehand grip by turning the racket in his right hand alone.
     
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    Publicity and discussion like this IS a huge reason why few Americans make it. Too much pub, notariety and ego feeding means not enough hunger. That's just the way it is.
     
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    "When Nadal wraps a lasso forehand around his shoulder, it's not technically perfect."


    What is imperfect about it? Excellent prep, fantastic body rotation, perfect extension at contact, best spin in the history of tennis. Borg's follow through was very similar, and Laver hit many buggy whips as well. We need to look to the greats to give out great information as coaches.
     
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  21. chalkflewup

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    Mitch,

    I hear you loud and clear and can't disagree with your comments. Nadal shouldn't change a thing, however; if his forehand is perfect, why hasn't the coaching fraternity adopted his Hawaiian grip and buggy whip follow through as the prototype forehand?

    His forehand is a phenomena, a freak just like Kareem, the all time leading scorer in NBA history largely because of an unstoppable, non-traditional skyhook.

    P.S. It also helps that he's one of the most fierce and admired competitors in professional sports today.
     
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  22. Milan

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-wVLlmLCQ

    You're right that's the weirdest thing i've ever seen
     
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    I hate his forehand!
     
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  24. chalkflewup

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    All Francis does is win. Great instincts. He's really a character too.

    No one liked Santoro's strokes either ;)
     
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  25. tenniscp

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    I think a few kids are going to the French open jr and wimbledon from the ones that were mentioned. Any hope that our kids will do well on the clay of Europe? After all. we do have an American who won Roland Garros last year.
     
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  26. donnygg

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    Nadal does not use a Hawaiian grip. It's not even a western grip. He uses only a semi western grip.
     
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  27. chalkflewup

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    3/4 western grip
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out though...not the first time I've been wrong!
     
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  29. THAAS909

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    I live one town over from Josh Levine and all though he is going to Duke to play tennis, I do not think he will ever show up on tour. However, Noah Rubin is different story. Volk is also in my area and is very good.
     
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  30. tennis_tater

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    Noah Rubin seems to be doing well this year at the French Open juniors, as is Mitch Krueger.
     
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  31. tennis_tater

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    Rubin and Krueger are both in the quarters now.
     
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  32. tenniscp

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    Rubin will win French Open, or Kruger. Or so I hope.
     
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