Whose GOD-MODE level was the most impressive?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Mike Sams, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. Mike Sams

    Mike Sams Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    I don't mean just in 1 match but over a series of tournaments, displaying a consistent level of incredible form. For example, Rafael Nadal winning 7-8 straight tournaments over the summer of 2008 or Djokovic winning everything from AO 2011 all the way to Rome, etc. Who impressed you the most, displaying great ability over a period of time in a season?
     
    #1
  2. NDFM

    NDFM Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Messages:
    255
    Federer in 2006 (and 2005 although he didn't win 3 majors that year), the only people that beat him that year was nadal (4 wins) and murray (with 1 win). Did nadal win 8 tournaments in the summer of '08 or was it over the whole season? Djokovic's 2011 was pretty impressive.
     
    #2
  3. RF20Lennon

    RF20Lennon Legend

    Joined:
    May 2, 2011
    Messages:
    7,225
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Federer 06 Djokovic 2011
     
    #3
  4. Jackuar

    Jackuar Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    122
    Statistically, it would be McEnroe's God year.

    But considering not just the number but the level of play as in quality, the way the player dominated I'd say Federer 2006 and 2007; haven't seen McEnroe play.
     
    #4
  5. Limpinhitter

    Limpinhitter Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2010
    Messages:
    9,277
    The Rocket!
     
    #5
  6. zam88

    zam88 Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    1,341
    When Nadal blows though the entire clay season without dropping a set or maybe A set... it's friggin' impressive. And he's done it a few times.

    Nadal's clay God mode is sick... and when he follows it up with a Wimbledon, it's even sicker.


    for longer stretches, you can't beat what Djokavic did in '11, or what Federer did from '04 to '07.

    Fed's 237 weeks of god mode will be extremely difficult to repeat
     
    #6
  7. dangalak

    dangalak Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    Messages:
    608
    Federer's 2005 was ridiculous. Look at the tennis people had to play to beat him.
     
    #7
  8. Clarky21

    Clarky21 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2011
    Messages:
    12,686
    Fed without a doubt.
     
    #8
  9. Mike Sams

    Mike Sams Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    I find Djokovic's god mode more impressive than Federer's. Djokovic smashed an all time great in Nadal countless times in a season even on Nadal's best surface. Federer even despite god mode kept losing on clay on the other hand. Federer basically ruined a potential Djokovic/Nadal RG final. Nadal was mentally at Djokovic's mercy at that period.
     
    #9
  10. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    I would say Nadal in 2008 and 2010 since he was winning vs all opponents on all surfaces, whereas even god mode peak of peaks Federer found himself regularly not winning on clay and regularly losing to Nadal, with only 2 Hamburg titles to show for all his clay efforts from 2004-2007 (2004 when Nadal was irrelevant), and losing 6 of his first 7 matches to a teenaged Nadal.

    Nadal in 2008 wins the French Open on clay, wins Wimbledon on grass, wins the Olympics on hards. Nadal in 2010 wins the French Open on clay, wins Wimbledon on grass, wins the U.S Open on hards. Consistently beats Federer, Djokovic, Murray, whoever is on the other side of the side with only occasional defeats. No surface, no opponent, no problem, unlike peak Federer.

    As for Djokovic, even 2011 Djokovic lost to 30 year old Federer in a slam and was match points down to lose to him in another.
     
    #10
  11. Cup8489

    Cup8489 Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2007
    Messages:
    9,238
    Location:
    Silvis, IL
    2005 Federer might have been the highest level of tennis played. Nadal during summer 08 was close, but not quite. Djokovic was close as well, in a different manner.

    It's weird b/c federer won only two majors that year, but without a doubt his highest level.
     
    #11
  12. zam88

    zam88 Professional

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    1,341

    maybe, but Djokavic's god mode lasted about 60 weeks and then he went back to just being extremely good.

    Yes Federer did ruin the chance to see that match, and i would have liked to have seen it... but on the flip side Djokavic ruined the chance for me to get to see Fed vs. Nadal at the USO.. TWICE! and i would've really liked to have seen that.


    also Federer did what Djokavic '11 did (to a slightly lesser extent) THREE times
     
    #12
  13. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    BTW in fairness to Federer, the Nadal which Federer faced on clay from 2005-2010 was so much better than the Nadal of 2011 on clay it isnt even funny. So in the Federer-Djokovic comparision that isnt entirely fair either. Had peak Federer faced a Nadal struggling with Isner and some other clay bums throught the year on clay, I am sure he would have had more success as well. Meanwhile put Nadal of 2008 Roland Garros up against any version of Djokovic on clay, I most everyone would agree Djokovic will do well to even win a set. That plus Djokovic is just naturally a much worse matchup and challenging opponent for Nadal than Federer is, has always been the case, even before Djokovic 2.0 emerged.
     
    #13
  14. NDFM

    NDFM Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Messages:
    255
    Federer's 'god-mode' level is more impressive as he done this over consecutive seasons, nadal and djokovic haven't
     
    #14
  15. The Bawss

    The Bawss Banned

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,829
    Location:
    Lyon, France.
    Good post. I don't think anybody past or present could have beaten Nadal at RG 2008.
     
    #15
  16. Mike Sams

    Mike Sams Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    Djokovic has been a problem matchup for Nadal on clay even when Nadal played god-mode tennis. Check out Hamburg 2008, Monte Carlo 2009, Madrid 2009, etc. That's before Djokovic even reached his best level and was still shaky mentally.
    2011 Djokovic would've been a formidable challenge for any version of Nadal on clay. Djokovic was playing at an almost inhuman level at times.
     
    #16
  17. The-Champ

    The-Champ Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2007
    Messages:
    6,541
    Location:
    Sweden
    That's because during the peak Federer years he had to play peak Nadal on clay. The Nadal djokovic played is at least 3-4 years past his very best on the surface.
     
    #17
  18. tennis_pro

    tennis_pro G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2011
    Messages:
    16,820
    Location:
    Poland, eating bigos and ┼╝eberka
    I wouldn't say Nadal in 2010 was in godmode, at least not on 2/3 surfaces, he "just" won the biggest tournaments but wasn't even close to dominating it. He didn't do better than Federer in any of 2004-2007 as we knew Federer would take the biggest tournaments from the beginning (who cares he lost to Canas, baby Murray or Nalbandian - they would never beat him in a slam at the time) Nadal is a good candidate for the "player to dominate a surface the most" thread but not in the general pwnage.

    From his 2008 run, the most impressive, at least IMO, was his win over Djokovic at the Olympics. We can obviously understand his domination on clay and his Wimbledon win (from a time perspective looking how Fed's level dropped a lot compared to even 2007 while Nadal stayed the same or marginally improved), but those wins on hard courts are what made the whole streak impressive.

    To answer the question - I'd pick Djokovic in the first half of 2011. I mean the guy didn't f*** with nobody, he was beating everyone HANDILY on every surface. And Federer had to play arguably his best match of 2011 to beat Novak and cool him down a bit.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2012
    #18
  19. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    In the end Federer's career H2H with Nadal on clay is equal to Djokovic's, this despite that we admit Djokovic was a "worse matchup". This hardly rates in Djokovic's favor in the comparision. Especialy when clay is Federer's worst surface and one of Djokovic's best.

    As others have said though Federer's god mode lasted 4 years. Nadal sparatically came and went for a few years, and he seemed to burn himself out even reaching it. Djokovic's lasted 9 months, possibly to never return again. That is the biggest advantage Federer has over the other two.
     
    #19
  20. tennis_pro

    tennis_pro G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2011
    Messages:
    16,820
    Location:
    Poland, eating bigos and ┼╝eberka
    We need a more specific time frame to answer the question. F.e.:

    - 2 weeks - probably goes to Nalbandian who beat Federer (twice), Nadal (twice and pwnage both times), Djokovic and a couple of other top 10 players to win Madrid/Paris back to back in 2007

    - 4 weeks - Roddick getting hot in the North America hard court season in 2003 - when he took Canada/Cincinnati/US Open scoring some very impressive wins including 1 against his nemesis Federer (the fresh Wimbledon champion), there are other candidates like Rafter in 1998 (same part in the season)

    - 3 months - Nadal in mid 2008 - owned clay, owned grass, and had a couple of very good wins on hard courts

    - 6 months - probably Djokovic, he went insnane in the first half of 2011

    - 1 year - Federer in 2005 - *bows to Cup8489* - the highest level of tennis one could play, Fed was flawless

    - 4/5 years - Federer in 2003/2004 - 2007 - what can I say? The most extended period of GOATness I have ever witnessed
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2012
    #20
  21. shakes1975

    shakes1975 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2006
    Messages:
    741
    Pete Sampras between Wim 1999 and until he had his back injury. He was astounding. He was a lock for the USO that yr. IMO, nobody was good enough to take him down had he played that USO - not Agassi nor anybody else.
     
    #21
  22. Prisoner of Birth

    Prisoner of Birth Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,786
    This post renders the rest redundant. Good job, sir.
     
    #22
  23. The-Champ

    The-Champ Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2007
    Messages:
    6,541
    Location:
    Sweden
    And how many sets did he win against Peak Nadal at the FO? ZERO. Peak Fed bagelled peak Nadal and pushed him hard in other matches during Rafa's best playing level years on the surface. Those results are more impressive than anything peak djokovic have managed against this slow version of Nadal lol :D And yes, peak Federer would certainly have beaten the FO-Nadal of 2010-2012.
     
    #23
  24. Prisoner of Birth

    Prisoner of Birth Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,786
    No way any version of Federer would've beaten 2010's Nadal at the FO. 2011, sure.
     
    #24
  25. The-Champ

    The-Champ Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2007
    Messages:
    6,541
    Location:
    Sweden
    2006 version of Federer would destroy any version of Nadal post 2008 on clay. I'm a huge Rafa's fan btw, but Federer was nuts that year on the surface.
     
    #25
  26. BauerAlmeida

    BauerAlmeida Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2012
    Messages:
    566
    Location:
    Argentina
    1-Djokovic 2011 January-April
    2-Federer 2005 Since Miami/Iw untill USO
    3-Nalbandian late 2007
    4-Federer 2nd half 2006-AO 2007
    5-Agassi RG/Wimbledon 1999
    6-Safin late 2004, early 2005
     
    #26
  27. Agassifan

    Agassifan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,542
    Nadal on Clay. Fed over 3 years on every surface (except when playing Nadal on clay).
     
    #27
  28. The Bawss

    The Bawss Banned

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,829
    Location:
    Lyon, France.
    There is only one god mode. Federer 2006 DEFINED god mode. Any other level of tennis can merely be expressed as a percentage of Federer's god mode (%FGM)
     
    #28
  29. vive le beau jeu !

    vive le beau jeu ! G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    11,446
    Location:
    Ometepe, Pink Granite, Queyras, Kerguelen (...)
    then sampras' 1999 summer (from wimbledon until his retirement against spadea) was kinda "god's daddy mode". ;)

    agassi wasn't in god mode at all at RG 1999... he struggled against several opponents.
     
    #29
  30. stringertom

    stringertom G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2010
    Messages:
    13,030
    Location:
    In a sureshsian vortex
    James Scott Connors' 1974 season was very much God-mode...99-4 with 3 majors and 15 total titles. In fact, he was looking pretty good in early '75 until The Graceful One took him out in the Wimby final in the biggest upset of our sport's history. Orantes and Newk followed suit later that year and his aura of invincibility dwindled. Still, he was a pretty tough "out" in any tourney on any surface for the next decade.
     
    #30
  31. Mike Sams

    Mike Sams Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    Federer would never have beaten Nadal at RG. What are you smoking??? Federer was in the form of his life in 2011 RG and still lost to a lackluster Nadal.
     
    #31
  32. Prisoner of Birth

    Prisoner of Birth Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,786
    No he wasn't. He was just in-form. 2006 Federer would straight-set 2011 Federer on all surfaces.
     
    #32
  33. Mike Sams

    Mike Sams Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    What about Sod Mode? Soderling RG 2009 4th round where everything is coming at rocket speed and going into the court? :lol: We saw another glimpse of Sod Mode the following year at RG in the QF. Both Nadal and Federer witnessed Sod Mode first hand!
     
    #33
  34. Mainad

    Mainad G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Messages:
    13,290
    Location:
    Manchester, UK.
    Am I the only one who thinks it a bit odd and surreal to talk about the same player playing against himself at different points of his career?? :x
     
    #34
  35. The-Champ

    The-Champ Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2007
    Messages:
    6,541
    Location:
    Sweden

    That's because you started watching tennis last year. Seriously, go see a doctor :D
     
    #35
  36. Prisoner of Birth

    Prisoner of Birth Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,786
    :-D Sorry, I could've made my point in a more elegant way I guess.
     
    #36
  37. Mike Sams

    Mike Sams Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    Federer's 2011 RG level was exceptional.
     
    #37
  38. Prisoner of Birth

    Prisoner of Birth Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,786
    Exceptional for his age. Not for Roger Federer.
     
    #38
  39. Sid_Vicious

    Sid_Vicious G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2010
    Messages:
    11,681
    Location:
    In The City
    ROFL. Yeah, okay.
     
    #39
  40. Biscuitmcgriddleson

    Biscuitmcgriddleson Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    1,098
    2006 Federer without a doubt in my mind. 2005 was very close also.
     
    #40
  41. BauerAlmeida

    BauerAlmeida Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2012
    Messages:
    566
    Location:
    Argentina
    He clearly played better in other tournamentes during his career. But coming back from 141 in the world to win the GS he was missing was epic. He played great anyway except the first two sets against Medvedev. Great matches against Clement, Squillari, Hrbaty and Moya. On Wimbledon he played much better but Sampras was a beast in the final. And in the USO he played awesome, but I forgot to include it. We could include AO too even. He went 27-1 in GS matches that year, only losing to Sampras in Wimbledon.
     
    #41
  42. RF-17-GOAT

    RF-17-GOAT Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    447
    Federer's ofcourse.
     
    #42
  43. vive le beau jeu !

    vive le beau jeu ! G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    11,446
    Location:
    Ometepe, Pink Granite, Queyras, Kerguelen (...)
    he lost to vince ain't afraid of ya spadea (in the 4th round) at the AO ! ;)

    but i guess you were thinking on the next AO... his 4th straight slam final, winning 3 of them, which was indeed a great achievement.
    ... as was coming back from #141, but i don't think it really corresponds with what people mean with "god mode" (sounds more like a "resurrected jesus mode", in fact). ;)
     
    #43
  44. okdude1992

    okdude1992 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2005
    Messages:
    3,260
    You realize we are talking about Nadal. On clay...

    The guy has 1 RG loss EVER and has a huge mental advantage (plus matchup issues) against Federer. Federer in 06 may have played great but what happened when he ran into Nadal? There's no way Federer ever beats Nadal at the French Open, unless Nadal is well below par.

    Did you even watch FO 2011? Nadal was completely off, and Federer was playing great, yet even with all the chances he had he still won exactly 1 set. Federer has NEVER won more than a set against Nadal at RG.

    But your confident that 06 Federer would somehow be able to "dominate" his biggest rival on his worst surface? Not even beat, but "dominate"?? Totally delusional.
     
    #44
  45. THUNDERVOLLEY

    THUNDERVOLLEY G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    10,515
    Quoted for truth.
     
    #45
  46. WhiskeyEE

    WhiskeyEE Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2008
    Messages:
    5,310
    I agree with 2005 Fed. He lost to Safin at the AO who was also playing god mode. That match is the highest level of tennis (overall from 2 players) I've ever seen.
     
    #46
  47. Prisoner of Birth

    Prisoner of Birth Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,786
    Yes, that match, for me, is of higher quality than any Sampras-Agassi, Federer-Nadal, Borg-McEnroe match. God-mode versus God-mode.
     
    #47
  48. 90's Clay

    90's Clay Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2012
    Messages:
    7,331
    1.Nadal-French Open-USO 2010. 3 straight slams on 3 different surfaces. Hasn't been done in a gazillion years
    2. Fed Wimbledon-AO 2006-2007
    3. Djoker- Jan-May 2011


    At least for current guys..


    Sampras wimbledon 99 level to the YEC (aside from missing the USO with injuries that year) was completely SICK
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2012
    #48
  49. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    Yes I agree. I thought the thread was just about current players, but I would rate that version of Sampras, or the one from January 1994-July 1994, above all of them.
     
    #49
  50. BauerAlmeida

    BauerAlmeida Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2012
    Messages:
    566
    Location:
    Argentina
    Totally, we will never see something like that in years. The level of epicness (?)was surreal. Specially that 4th set tie-break.
     
    #50

Share This Page