Why all the sudden hate especially from fed fans towards Djoker??

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  1. djokovic2008

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    I have noticed a lot of negative comments here about djoker since he realized his potential this year especially from fed fans. Nadal fans seem more reasonable, is that because djoker has beat him five times this year but djoker has beat fed 3 times this year too. Are fed fans scared to death that djoker will ecilpse feds achievments?? its getting pathetic.

    When fed was winning everybody had to stand back and take it so now its your turn thats how life is.

    Can cut the stupid comments like djoker has no slice or volleys or he can't take on net players etc because he has beatn every type of challenge out there on all surfaces. He won WIMBLEDON for surely he is a complete player!!!
     
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    Thread is useless without brain.
     
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    Nope, he hasn't reached a Roland Garros final and he hasn't won US Open either.
     
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  4. djokovic2008

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    oops another fed fan let me guess I would'nt expect any other answer considering the stuff I have read on here recently!!
     
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    I think we can both agree he is an amazing HC player, two USO finals and two Aussie grand slam titles need I go on???
     
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    Federer: 4 AO titles, 1 more final; 5 USO titles, 1 more final.

    Hmm. That seems like an amazing HC player.. Djokovic is only a 'fair' HC player.

    Thanks for playing!
     
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    Fed has amassed titles over a long period of time its Djokers time now and lets see how they play at this years USO i'm sure you will be posting afterwards!!!
     
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    The djoker is burning out though...
     
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    Thats nice.

    Besides, it is impossible for djokovic to beat feds slam total unless he keeps winning multiple slams till his mid 30s.
     
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    Djoker is a quitter. People don't like quitters.
     
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    Is that so impossible with more experience it will just be about his physical condition at that point its not impossible.
     
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    Novak is 24 years old. If he wins 2.66 slams a year in the next six years, he will have 19 slams by the time he's 30.
     
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    good luck with that
     
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    Thats not a bad post, he can doiminate the aussie open which has the best conditions for his game the its just one more.
     
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    :lol::lol:

    The only player right now who has just the slightest chance of eclipsing Feds achievements is Rafael Nadal. And I don't see that happening.
    Djokovic is less than a year younger than Nadal and has 7 fewer GS titles, there is not a chance he will ever get to 16. I highly doubt he will even overtake Nadal.

    So if there are truly guys concerned about Fed's legacy being endangered, they should be happy that Nole is so succesful against Rafa...
     
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    I thought the conditions at the AO were not ideal for Novak? When they have the AO, I thought it was VERY hot in Melbourne.

    I realize he has won it twice, but I still think he prefers cooler weather to play in.
     
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    Do you mean Fed "fans" or Fed "tards?" There's a different, some of us can enjoy the tennis :)

    If anything I thought that it was the *******s who were suddenly singing Djokovic's praises for "saving Fed's legacy", and it was the Nadaltards who were spreading any hate because their guy kept getting beaten.



    ...I'm never using the word **** again, I feel dirty :oops:
     
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    WTF are you talking about? Fed fans usually like Novak. I love him. Nadal fans are the ones who suddenly hate him.
     
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    That's a lie, you know, OP.
    So, screw you :^D

    While he's a smart ass at times, I like the guy and enjoy watching his tennis.
     
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    Ther court surface is perfect for him slow/meduim speed, the night sessions he loves there too.
     
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    You are making it sound as if it's easy, and you are assuming he has the capability of remain and consistent as Federer in grandslams as well as keeping up the high level of play.

    Although Djokovic is really smart with scheduling and is physically fitter this year, he is showing signs of burning out during this half, which is really one of the prices you pay for winning. I can see his play is no where the level it was in the first half of the year. Even at Wimbledon there were some signs that it was coming.

    I have high respect for Djokovic has achieved, but I have my doubts about how long he'll be able to keep this up.

    There is one key reason why Federer managed to consistently dominate the tour as well as delay his decline and remain as a Top 3 player. Federer's game is nowhere near as physically demanding as Nadal or Djokovic's. Nadal was originally and mainly a defensively oriented player, with certain offensive capabilities, in return he went through injury and early signs of physical decline are showing mainly in his speed. Djokovic is still young, and because he is generally more offensive, I feel he'll last longer. However, he is still really defensive in matches, he likes extending the rallies a lot more than actually finishing it off quickly, so we can safely say his game is also physically demanding albeit not as physical as Nadal. When you look at Federer on the other hand, his game is the least demanding. I don't you will find a more efficient game than Federer when he was dominant. He is mostly aggressive, but he did have some exceptional defensive abilities. He generates the largest amount of power with the least amount of effort. He relied more on his actual footwork, positioning, and anticipation rather than pure speed. And when he was on the defensive, he would turn it into an offensive position in a matter of a 2-4 shots, he doesn't really continuously stay on the defensive and let the opponent continue pressuring him and then gradually force the error or dominate the rally. His relaxed style of playing and fluidity only continue to help cut the strains on the body. The reason he's declining however is because his footwork isn't that good anymore, however somehow I doubt it actually physical reasons, since he was fine at the AO 2010 and WTF 2010. Federer's game is more demanding technically, requiring extremely accurate timing and focus as well. It's mainly that department that Federer is declining now.

    Djokovic has a large amount of potential, but in order to really achieve and surpass what Federer has he needs to smart about the way he approaches the game, because the unreal defensive abilities don't last forever. He has a solid game, with no particular glaring weakness, good of both wings on the ground, exceptional at the net, reliable serve, excellent returning abilities. He just needs to shift a bit more to the offensive and he should be fine.
     
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    I agree with a lot of that post and djoker may burn out, But I have all always heard him talk about trying to shorten the points to win matches easier. At the first part of the year he was beating guys 6-0 which is what he needs to do and win in straight sets. He may adapt we will have to wait and see.
     
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    Here's the reason:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3Qxzd2wXY
     
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  24. monfed

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    You've gotta be kidding me. The more Novak wins,the better it is for Federer obviously since Nadal is kept at bay. However I can't see Djokovic eclipsing Fed's slam count. I'm glad an ATP player is finally standing up to Nadal's mindless moonballing.
    God,what a relief!
     
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    Don't let it bother you, they are just a bunch of haters.
     
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    I haven't noticed a disproportionate number of Federer fans criticising Djokovic.

    Can you give some examples?
     
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    (It's not just Federer fans, its everyone. Don't forget, only Djokovic's actual fanbase sees positives in him. He's just not likeable)
     
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    {[(Nadal isn't anymore likable, no ones likes a cheater who cheers unforced errors and then makes excuses for every loss)]}
     
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    (Exactly, I think the OP has got it wrong. Federer fans look forward to Federer playing Djokovic, because they know the result is on Federer's racquet. Not so with Tsonga)
     
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    Totally disagree with the OP. True that there are a lot of new disgruntled fans with all of Djoker's success. But truth be told, 95% lie in the ********* camp. Even so-called idiots who claim Djoker was their second favourite player show their true colours now that Djoker is destroying Nadal at his peak level of play. What's really really sad is that the somewhat neutral informed Nadaltards are also on the DJoker hate bandwagon. Our world is a testament to the precarious nature of our beliefs and the manner in which emotion rules the way of man.
     
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    This is nearly the same scenario as Murray in Cincy. Djokovic playing well in set 2, fights hard on his serve but is finally broken by the better player... retires with some phantom injury.
     
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    Djokovic retired with a sore throat just as Federer was starting to administer a beatdown. It got up a lot of people's noses at the time when Djokovic retired, especially those Federer fans annoyed at Djokovic beating Federer at the Australian Open. Personally, I think it was all blown out of proportion and that Djokovic saying "I quit" is just as legitimate a victory.
     
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  33. monfed

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    Exactly. I can't see Fed fans being anti-Novak.
    If anything, they want Joker to completely dismantle Nadal.
     
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    Yes, Nadal fan's are terrible.
     
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    I am usually pretty good at remembering important Fed matches but I totally forgot about those things. You know why? Because the rivalry between Fed and Novak doesn't really matter that match. It's even less significant than Fed and Nalby for example. Nadal is the one who was constant pain the *** for Fed since 2005 and everyone else doesn't even come close. So nice try but Fed fan's don't hate Novak. They sure do hate Nadal thou.

    I always liked Novak because of his great personality and that's why it didn't bother me that much when he beat Fed in 2008 AO for example.
     
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    Nice try at what? :confused:
     
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    I like quiters more than cheaters....
     
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    They don't like the fact that Novak has the most complete game in tennis, so they are attempting to belittle him.

    Also, we all know that Novak, unlike Federer, actually could have won the FO against Nadal and in all likely hood will at some point unlike Federer.


    Go Novak!
     
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    Bandwagon much?

    How can one like tennis and not to be a Fed fan?
     
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    What's your point? Does your women laugh at his jokes but not yours? Is that what makes you hate him? Did he beat a player you have a huge poster of in your room? Don't discredit the guy's achievements ( what he DIDN'T win), you just don't have to like him.
    Enjoy the game and all the players as we are blessed to have such an era upon us. All of today's pro's are incredible success stories and have beat tremendous odds to get where they are. Nobody is perfect, and neither is your hero.
     
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    Wow, some of those new fans are really elegant.
     
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    I do like it when he retires from a match, though. That way, he won't win the tournament and spend his acceptance speech lecturing us all on Serbia, Kosovo, and all that political crap, like he's been known to do in the past.
     
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    Define elegant..........
     
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    I need not remind you that you can exercise your god given right of not watching offensive content. Or do you prefer to watch events that trigger negative thoughts or emotions.......I can help you if you have those type of issues. Feeling anger invites a feeling of control, ability and competence. Usually because they are lacking.......
     
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    I think Katy's belly button is quite elegant.

    [​IMG]

    But I apologize for my not so good English because maybe my message didin't get through, but I basically meant you were unpleasant to the other por guy who was just talking tennis.

    But I thought it in less beautiful terms.
     
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    I have no idea. I've always liked Nole. He has great talent on all surfaces, he smiles during matches, he shows fire (pumps himself up when needed) and he claps for opponents + he has this goofy sense of humor off court. I'm not gonna start hating on him just because Rafa has lost to him a lot this year. It is Djoko's job to play as well as he can and I'm glad for him he's having a good stretch after all the struggling of the last 2 years. It's Rafa's and Fed's problem to raise their own level in response. It's not Novak's fault if they can't do it right now. So I'm not going to start blaming him for it.

    ETA: I must say I feel rather isolated though. A lot of Nadal fans are spewing venom on Djoko atm like there's no tomorrow. I often find myself wanting to defend him, not even because I care that much but just because he's being attacked so hard and so hatefully, mostly unfairly imo. (Of course Fed fans tend to be even more rabid but I'm used to that already given how obnoxious they've often been toward Rafa.)
     
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    You are feeling the backlash of the fact Nole retired from ANOTHER match again, that's why the comments are getting to you.

    Novak will NOT eclipse neither Nadal's moreso Roger's records. He is too temperamental to get there. It's easy to make your thoughts jump that he could do it because he is on a momentum, but he won't.

    For the record, I like Novak's game better than Nadal. There is more variety and a bit more cerebral. That being said......


    ......be quiet, ok?
     
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    If you read the majority of that posts that person made you might better understand my response. And there is nothing wrong with that belly button:)
     
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    Are you okay ????

    It's the Rafa fans who are sore about Nole. Think before you post, if that's possible.
     
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