Why do you hate Lendl?

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  1. it was Just out

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    I hate Lendl because he was a robot and the most boring player to ever play this sport. He just seemed evil.

    I also hated him because he said he couldnt play Wimbledon because he was allergic to grass...turns out he was a big time golfer and was just afraid of losing again!
     
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    Well, I don't hate him. But if I did, my answer would probably be "because of his face".
     
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    I heard he kept some mean dogs around his house in CT and had them intimidate and bite hitting partners that came over.
     
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    Do I hate him? No. But he was a dishonorable player, you never aim to hit a ball through another player's chest......not even McEnroe's.
     
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    I don't. His drive to be the best, and to be prepared to work himself to death for it, was actually quite inspiring.
     
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    Evil and ignorant thread you started. Lendl was a better human being than Connors and ''you cannot be serious''. They made him out as evil. Boring? Great groundstrokes. Where did he say he was allergic to grass. Even nowadays you won't hear Ivan say anything but positive things about his peers and today's tennis. That was the case in the old days too. Don't confuse shy, arrogance, stoic (most topplayers are on court) with boring and evil. You are just here to mess things up.
     
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    I'm honestly not sure why I'm bothering to reply to such an ignorant post! Then I remember, as others have said, that he was an inspiration to me growing up and playing.

    1. I don't hate *any player*, and with the possible exception of quite bad people (murders, etc etc), I don't hate anyone I've never met, anyone who's never done anything wrong by me. In fact, I pretty much don't 'hate' anyone - it just takes too much wasted energy. Sure, I think Nadal's gamesmanship is a bit annoying, and I never enjoyed watching Pat Cash win, but I don't 'hate' them.

    2. Boring? No. Clinical? Yes. Exacting? Yes. Professional? Yes. But no different to any of the big-time players, agassi, fed, sampras... it's all a professional game. His game helped transform tennis into the power sport it is today! His forehand was brutal, he had a thumping serve, big backhand, and taught himself to Serve & Volley. He'd yell when he stuffed up, he'd argue with an ump for a bad call, he'd drill McEnroe at the net - none of which is boring.

    3. Allergic to grass? Get your facts straight - this happened at the start of his career, not at the end. 1982, to be exact, and it was said tongue in cheek. He then slowly spent a chunk of the next decade dedicating himself to becoming a grass court player - back in the days of real, fast-grass. None of this "I'm a baseliner, I won't learn", he *dedicated* himself, hired Tony Roche, and made two consecutive Wimbledon Finals, followed by three consecutive semi-finals. The only three players he lost to over those five years? Becker, Edberg and Cash. He also won Queens by beating Becker in straight sets. This dedication was sure interesting for any fan, watching the struggle....

    4. Evil? Ok. As you wish. He's now a family man with 3 or 4 kids, and spends most of his time supporting his daughters who play golf. Sounds evil to me.
     
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  8. vive le beau jeu !

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    i don't hate him.

    allergic to grass ?
    like warriorroger, i think it would be surprising : he says what one of the things he's the most proud about in his whole career is precisely to have reached twice the wimbledon final ! ;)

    i understand some ppl can hate him because of this :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xAPwx3z950&search=lendl
    but he's certainly not the only one to do it !
    Nb: we should make a thead with the best "player shootings" ! but as some say, tennis is still not a contact sport !!!
    he was asked several times about it, and said it was logical for him to do this when it's the best way to win the point... because it's his job to win the points ! well...i wouldn't do the same thing, but if he's ok with his conscience like this...... :rolleyes:

    and despite looking antipathetic on the court, it's said he was funnier guy offcourt, isn't it ? at least when i read his interviews, i enjoy his subtile sarcasm ! :p
    + he was an impressive champion : what a domination in the 2nd half of the 80's...
     
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    Why quote me?:confused:
     
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  10. vive le beau jeu !

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    ah sorry... i admit it's a bit confusing, but it's because i agree with you when you're surprised when he says lendl is allergic to grass !
    i'll make it more clear. :)

    better now ? ;)
     
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    Let me guess - you are an American?

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    First off, the OP isn't the one suggestning Lendl was allergic to grass. Lendl himself said it, as an excuse for skipping Wimbledon early in his career. Simply google a combo of words including "Lendl," "allergic," and "grass," and you'll get any number of hits confirming this.

    Second, there are many reasons to hate Lendl. He represents in both thought and deed the Communist/European threat to the American way of life. Like most East Euros, his upbringing left him an unblinking, hardline commie robot.

    It was clear he harbored a hatred for Freedom (e.g., his attempted assault of McEnroe was clearly a shot at freedom of speech -- he hated Mac for his talent, artistry, and above all, for his freedom).

    He lacked both personality and finesse, and made up for it with rigor and discipline. It made him hard for us (Americans) to love. He lacked the natural grace and talent with which we (as Americans) are imbued, but pursued in his own dogged way the mockery of natural talent which comes with endless slave-driven hard work. Once you've tasted genius, it's difficult to appreciate the rigors of disciplined craftsmanship. Effortless brilliance is so much more dazzling than hard work.

    Instead of common pets, he kept vicious attack dogs. Instead of a good, mass-marketed Wilson or Prince racquet, he played with a Kneissl knockoff. Who can even pronounce that? The man wasn't simply un-American; he gloried in his differences, as if saying, "your culture is puny and weak, America." We didn't cotton to that. Give us personality, genius, and beagles every time.
     
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    Oh, all that said, *I* don't hate Lendl. I'm above all that, even though I love freedom.

    Also, this is in the wrong forum.
     
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    Yeahhhhhhhhhhh, thank you my hippo friend (avatar, not saying you are a hippo)

    Thank you:p :mrgreen:
     
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    Total ignorant reply. It''s a shame you get to post so many post. Come to Europe with your fat belly and your patriotic bull ****. 50% of my family live in the beautiful California, none of them are as dumb as you. How can you even suggest to hate someone you don't even know. What natural talent did Connors, Evert, Capriati, and many more of ''only can play one one surface'' players have.
     
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    LOL, all that from a certified Seles whacko ...

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    The fact is that Lendl was the most unloved player in the history of tennis.

    Thats whjy he made the cover of I believe Sports Illustrated for the most boring #1 or something. It really hurt tennis big time.

    Most people rooted against Lendl. He has this terrible "Karma" about him. He is so dark....sort of like Darth Vader.
     
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    I stoped listening to Federer troll about 4 days ago. thank you.......:p
     
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    Roger will put his feet in your face
     
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    blah blah blah...Lendl still made the cover of Sports Illustrated for being the most boring player ever. Do you know any other player in the history of tennis that was ever given that honor??? I mean you have to be pretty damn bad to have that happen to you.

    Tennis magazines tried to save him and show that he was a really nice guy and had a personality....they failed. Lendl was not human he was a Cyborg.

    You mention Connors....well Connors showed emotion and fire. Connors was one of the most exciting players the game has ever seen..thats why people loved Connors. Lendl will NEVER get that type of admiration. NEVER .
     
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    What does being American have to do with anything?

    My favorite player is actually Nadal. And if you look at this board which comprises of mainly Americans....you will notice a love fest going on with Federer.

    Lendl simply was not likeable. Thats not only my opinion but he made it to the cover of sports Illustrated just for having no personality. In the history of tennis has there ever been a #1 that was so devoid of any signs of a personality?
     
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    hate is a strong word. I may not like watching some of the players but I don't hate them.
     
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    Ok.... do you like watching the robot? I personally would rather watch paint dry.

    But you are right. Hate is too strong of an emotion for Lendl. He was so devoid of personality I think a better word is indifference. No one really cares about lendl.
     
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    Yeah early on, I disliked his grim robotic style. But as with any player later in their careers I got to appreciate his professionalism and work ethic. Always did love how he'd try to end the match with an ace down the middle. Sort of the "coup de grace".
     
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    I still don't think he was human.

    Recently Mcenroe challenegd Lendl to a tennis match.

    Guess what Lendls exciting comeback was?:

    "Lets have a bicycle race instead"....OOOOOOOOO....good one Ivan!!!??

    Even his name is cold. I mean no woman can get excited about a guy named Ivan. What is she going to say???....ooooo ride me like a wild bull Ivan. Or give it to me...Ivan. You just cannot get excited about anyone named Ivan. its almost as bad as Eugene.

    In fact whenever I hear the name Ivan all I can think of is Ivan the terrible. Lendl was and is simply a disaster for public relations. He is as boring now as he ever was when he was on the tour.

    Today even mats Wilander has shown signs of a personality. Lendl on the other hand still has the personality of a piece of wood.
     
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    to his defense, Lendl has a back problem and cannot play tennis at the level that McEnroe is capable of playing. It was better for him to decline the challenge than to take it on, knowing that Mac would beat him 6-0, 6-0
     
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    As if he's asking for it.
     
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    In the U.S.A.

    "Sports Illustrated" being this jingoistic American sports rag?
    Which called Steffi Graf the "most overrated sports person" ever?
    And voted Sampras and Navratilova ahead of Graf in the "40 greatest tennis players of the last 40 years"? :D :D :D


    In the U.S.
    The same country that produced Connors and McEnroe ....


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    In America.
    But who gives .... ?

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    I shudder at the thought what people like you might mean by "having personality" ..... (Wow, this Paris Hilton really has personality!").


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    don't underestimate nadal... he's on good track to take this title. ;)
     
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    LOL! That was brilliant! The look on McEnroe's face is priceless. I think Lendl just became my favourite player ever!
     
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    I hope this is all tongue-in-cheek/satire. Lendl is hardly a poster boy for Communism. Among other things he defected to the U.S., made himself a ton of money, moved to Greenwich for crying out loud, and took up golf. He married a super-model and his daughters are now accomplished junior golfers. If anything, Lendl is the apotheosis of that mythical "American dream".
     
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    and why do most people not know that??? because no one cares about Lendl. He is really boring.

    You cannot force people to like this guy. I will admit that maybe people don't hate lendl.....but no one really cares about him.

    Don't you find it odd that someone with that many wins can't sell a biography like Mcenroe, Connors or Borg can?? The reason is no one cares about Lendl. he has zero personality. The man is a robot.
     
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    The word hate may be a little strong to describe peoples feelings towards Lendl. I think indifference is a better word. No one cares about Lendl.

    On the otherhand a guy like Nadal is the most exciting thing to happen to tennis since Connors! Whether you love or hate Nadal you must admit that he is exciting as all hell!

    In fact Nadal is the type of player you either love or hate....while lend is the type of player you just don't really care about.
     
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    Delicious.:-D
     
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    You said the same thing 5 times in 2 posts. The exact same thing, FIVE times in two posts that followed one-another. Do you think if you repeat yourself enough, people will magically come to believe it?
     
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    Hate is such a childish word.
     
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    Well, if one followed tennis, his defection, move to Greenwich, and marriage were all pretty common knowledge while he was playing. Doesn't mean you were a Lendl fan, per se, just means you didn't turn off the t.v. or crumple up the newspaper when this information was being disseminated.

    When did I try to force someone to like him? I just said that casting him as a poster boy for Communism was, IMO, incredibly inaccurate.

    Not at all. A McEnroe biography would still outsell a Federer biography in many markets, and McEnroe hasn't won a major since 1984. They'd both probably outsell Rod Laver.

    I don't think these are things of which any of us should be particularly proud as tennis fans.
     
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    Lendl had really bad teeth and gaunt cheeks in his playing years, and wasn't at all photogenic. The Dracula-like accent worked against him, too. He had a pretty dry sense of humor (the grass allergy, yet he spent missed Wimbledon time playing golf) that just didn't go over in the west. But he was a tremendous champion, and elevated the game. If he were playing today, his agent would get him an image makeover and he be a lot more popular than he was back then. Different times, though. The only endorsement I remember him doing was for Ben-Gay.
     
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    Not a bad conclusion really, but then again, there are still players like Davydenko going around, and equally, while he may not have had much outside-sport sponsorship, I'm sure Lendl made stacks from Addidas and Mizuno, he led Mizuno's break into the tennis world, which maybe worked for a time? I don't know the stats on that one.
     
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    It is possible to be a fan of both Lendl and McEnroe, just not if they are playing each other..
     
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    Why do you hate America?
     
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    No one really cares. Lendl is the most boring player EVER!!!!

    heres a list of the other 9 most boring #1's:

    2. Lendl
    3 Lendl
    4 Lendl
    5 Lendl
    6 Lendl
    7 Lendl
    8 Lendl
    9 Lendl
    10 Lendl
     
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    Closely followed by Sampras
     
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    I am surprised Lendl still bothers you that much considering he retired 12 years ago . It's not like he is still playing :)
     
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    Nice one:eek: ! LMAO...Let me add that whenever Lendl was playing an American and came to the net for the coin toss, he would declare, Ivan Drago-like,

    "I vill cr-uu-sh you, and all zat you belive it...prepare ya-selv for total and utt-a humiliation, imperialist DOG."
     
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    please ignore this post
     
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    I think I ruptured a tonsil laughing at your post. Brilliant! I'd nominate that for post of the year. Thanks mate - made my day.
     
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    I would love to read an autobiography by Lendl. I think its a shame that his name gets mentioned so little nowadays in the tennis world and on forums like this, afterall the guy's achievements on court rank him up there with the greats of all time yet no one really knows much about him except for the occasional mention from tennis pundits.

    Out of the autobiographies I would love to read I would rank Connors, Borg and Lendl as three I wish would release one the most. Further in the future I also look forward to Sampras and Agassi autobiographies.
     
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