Discussion in 'Racquets' started by shaneno, Mar 18, 2013.
why doesn't more people use 90-93 rackets? or mid-size rackets!?!
The question I wonder about is why does ANYBODY use 90-93 racquets.
Started out with a midsize, so it's hard to change. That and usually only midsize racquets are 12oz+
Well, most of the midsize racquets on the market are pretty unforgiving for my arm and it gets sore within 5 minutes of playing (ex: BLX, YOUTEK, Aerogel, etc.) :neutral:
When I played with the Boris Becker Delta Core London Tour, it was very string sensitive and if you hit just a little off the mark, the ball would go out. Precision is crucial playing with this racquet (and choice of string).
Anyways, the average rec tennis player wants the "power" and "control" in a racquet, and most mid sizes out there can only generate "power" by the player.
As boring as it gets having this thread pop up every month, I'll throw in my 2 cents.
What mid is less than $150 when it first comes out? It takes forever for mids to drop into that price range (7 months at least from what I've seen so far). And considering there are only about 10 mids in the market, while there are dozens of MPs, it just makes things easier to get a MP in your price range than wait for the mid to drop.
Or you can shell out the money. But I'm not paying $200 for 7 square inches less on a racket when I can get another one for less money (hypothetically speaking).
i like spin and control! so is mid only for me?
it really is hard to switch! i try for one year and i couldn't... i think i found a good racket. the Wilson BLX PS 100 felt nice. i might go to it .... but kinda scared too
Make your OWN decisions. Play with a selection of racquets and decide what is best for YOU.
Geesh... no wonder why racquet companies make millions.. :roll:
yep! even off u too.
Nope, I don't buy those overpriced injury-causing racquets. But I know you do because you clearly don't know what you want, meaning you are probably going to waste your money thinking that the racquet is what you want, but it really isn't...
Another racquet noob around here...
i use a mid size. it just tennis is changing and tennis companies wants to keep up with the current tennis generation. wooden racket have REALLY small headsizes in the past. compare to now, tennis players now hit harder and favor bigger head sizes so that they dont have to worry about framing it and needs forgiveness
how long u used mid size?
i'm still using it today. currently using a k90. i did start out with the 100 sq in. But i didnt feel it was that precise. so i went to a 90 and it fit the bill for me. as long you adjust your body to the time of the ball, the unforgiveness shouldnt be a problem.
i started off with the rafa racket but i didn't like it. then got a wilson KBlade 98. it didn't feel to suit my game at all! so i got a 90 and i love it. but now it getting hard to win matches with the 90. sure i win but it take long then before. i'm playing with Division 1-2 player!....
just that how do u stick with the 90? and not go to like a bigger head?
i like the precision that the 90 has. the feel of the 90 is more solid than a bigger head size. my ex-coach tried to make me switch to a pure drive, however i resisted. he complains that the 90 requires lots of skill to use. I said that you have to take some time to get used to the 90.
that sounds good! happy for u man... i think i'll switch to the wilson BLX PS 100... u should try it if u ever got time. it feel really similar to the 90.u need to customize it. it really light!..... i play with the PS85,PS90,N90,K90,BLX90 and BLX PS 90 i added lead to all haha so it normal for me. people call me crazy but i think it nice with lead.
Beginning to wonder the same thing .
i have on ps blx 95 and 100 in my bag. i mod them to match my 90. if i dont feel good hitting with the 90. i can alterante between the headsizes
i've used 98 or 100 since i was a little kid, I tried switching to a 95 but felt very uncomfortable.
aw man that is awesome!
hm. very interesting! so what racket do u use?
i used wilson h-wave which is 100 inch squared. and a head racket that i forgot the name of which was 98 inch squared. my favorite stick is 100 inch squared: pure drive team plus.
I'm a big hitter and I like a big string bed
why not use the roddick version?
I find the pure drive team plus to be more friendly for my arm. I used my coach's (he had one) when my racket strings broke and I sent it to be fixed for a few days. He strung it with lux alu power 16/vs team 16. I felt like cannons were coming out of my arm. Never served so many aces and winners.
so u feel better with 100 headsize then say a 93?
a lot more comfortable.
do u hold semi-West?
Yeah. And a 2 handed backhand.
Because few people have (or take) the time to practice enough. You have to hit the sweet spot on the strings on a Mid. If you do, it plays as well or better than a racket with a larger head. You may have short lower-level strokes or big whippy strokes, but in any case, you need to hit the center of the stringbed. If you aren't practicing a lot, your timing and coordination will be a bit off and you won't hit the sweetspot.
You must be more precise.
Here's something really obvious that most people can't understand.
It's all personal preference. If you've hit more with a 100 or a 95 than with a 93 or less, then you're going to find the larger head size more comfortable.
i started tennis with 90s ceramic rackets and older hand me downs from whatever garage sales i could find. Settled on the wilson sting for a while and got used to playing with mids and 95s. Today i've settled on the YT IG Prestige mid. Great stick, but definitely not for everyone.
the rally length is almost the same. i can hit about 15 shot rally with the 90 and with the 100 it be 18-20. it really hard to switch from a mid
what's the advantage in using 90-93??
Even most pros that train everyday for so many years use bigger, am I going to waste time with small racquets and have a disadvantage? Not really.
Is Dunlop not making 90s anymore. Don't see a replacement for the Bio 90 out or news of one coming out.
what do u use?
I wonder too .. what do yo do with all that real estate?...Hard to move through the air.. I prefer an 84 sq in.
Your post made my day!
I played with mid sized racquets for about 5-6 years and just recently switched to the Head Prestige IG Youtek Pro. I loved the feel of the Prestige Mids, but I feel more comfortable with the Pro. The headsize doesn't bother me, if Head made the Prestige Mid in a 16x19 I may switch back. But right now I love my Pro.
It really is just preference.
I just demo-ed the volkl o10 mid and liked it. But, I like my volkl o10 mid+ better. The mid is more precise and just as effective as the mid+ if you hit it dead center. It was not a totally fair comparison as my mid+ is customized to 335 SW while the mid is around 320 SW. I am in my mid 50s and have decided to stick with the mid+ - with higher SW I have a bigger sweetspot, higher twistweight, and a touch more pop.
I also noticed that the mid has longer mains. I am curious how the mid would play if they kept the same head shape as the mid+ but just reduced it from 98" to 93". I didn't care for the longer more rectangular head shape.
Which pros play with mid size racquets anyway? Off the top of y head I can think only of Federer and Ryan Harrison (Pure Storm Ltd, specs says 95 but it's more like a 93). Any others?
I'm not playing for a living, so I play the mid size. I play to enjoy, so I use the mid size.
But, when I have to play with those senior ball-tappers, I need to use a 100" head as my mid sizes demand that I give the ball a good crack or it won't go.
But, whatever, I like the 85's MUCH better.
All MY 98"+ rackets are 12oz+.
...It puts the lead on :twisted:
The prophecy is self fulfilling. As very few people use them, retailers respond by not offering them for the most part, so they don't show up in retail shops for people to try them. They will soon go the way of typewriters.
Dont get me wrong because Im no federer.....just a great 3.5 to some decent 4.0 to others but I feel that most people are just not comfortable playing with the midsize.....They just arent good enough......
They prefer the mid pluses or the 100sq inch racqs ( I classify them as cheat sticks) as they get so much latitude in mis hitting the ball and still the shot goes for a winner....they get incredible power from the sticks.........its not that easy playing with a mid......slightly of center you do not get the power shank the ball.......
You need to be incredibly precise when playing with a mid......
I for one played with the Head prestige mid various incarnations since I was 18.......and today play with the donnay platinum mid 93 inch....and love it......
contradicting myself (as I called them cheat sticks.) I hit the ball with alot of power and could never control my shots with a 98 or 100 inch racq.......Even If I could I would not make the switch as I love the feel of the shot one gets with a mid rac
No matter ... there comes a time in every players life when if he/she wants to continue to be a viable player a step-up beyond 100" will most likely be required (no matter how much you hate to take it ) .... 50, 60 or 70+ believe me it will come (in my case 77).
I came back to tennis after about a 15 year hiatus (~2 years or so ago) and went quickly from an old POG to a 102, to a 95, and now to my beloved Volkl PB10 Mid. I'm not sure why but the mid just feels like a samurai sword compared to the others. I have hit frames with very similar swing weights, static weights, and RA to my PB10 mid but with bigger heads and I still like the Volkl better. I wish I could explain it but the only evidence I have is just a feeling of precise command when I crush a ball on either wing into either corner.
People can't handle it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM
I've been a 95 user for the last couple of years, and I'm highly considering switching to the Pro Staff 90. It seems to me that lower level players have issues with consistently striking the ball cleanly with smaller frames, the spin-loving players with fast and sometimes unorthodox strokes also have problems with the smaller headsize. Some have issues with the weight of them as well. I'm a d3 college player, and I have the physical tools(I'm 6'4" 200) and strokes to handle the frame, and I love the responsiveness, so I'm almost certainly switching to the 90.
Interestingly, I frame the ball more frequently with the Juice Pro, which has a 96" headsize (The difference in number of mishits actually noticeable.) I think this is from the lower weight of this juice (approx 11.9 oz strung, as opposed to the 12.6 of the pro staff 90.) I think lighter weight slows me down, and the smaller headsize really doesn't hurt me.
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