Why don't they show more doubles matches on TV?

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  1. Pushmaster

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    Being a true fan of tennis I enjoy watching ALL types of tennis, men's and women singles, men's and women's doubles, and mixed doubles. It seems like they almost never show doubles anymore, except the Bryan brothers occasionally because they're American. Is it just a ratings thing or what?
     
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  2. dAgEnIuS

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    it probably is the rating thing...
    mostly people (including me) don't watch doubles because the points end too quickly....
    it's hard to see long rallies in doubles...
    another thing is that top famous players don't ever play doubles.....
     
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  3. Pushmaster

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    I play 50% singles and 50% doubles and enjoy both equally. Same thing with watching pros play singles and doubles, you can learn alot about doubles strategy buy watching some of the best players in the world at it. Although, I doubt if anything is going to change anytime soon though.
     
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  4. West Coast Ace

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    Your last comment was right

    It's all about marketing. The Bryan brothers are not going to attract viewers. And Black and Ulyette (sp?) - I'm a big tennis fan and wouldn't know either if they walked on my court to bump me tomorrow (please don't rain in So Cal!). If Federer, Agassi, Safin, and Roddick started their own doubles teams and all said their goal was to be #1 in both singles and doubles, and Sampras came out of retirement to play doubles only with with Donald Young, and Johnny Mac teamed with Taylor Dent, I guarantee you ESPN would be ALL OVER IT.
     
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  5. Andy Hewitt

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    Well let me say that i LOVE playing doubles even though i hardly get the chance. I finally saw my first doubles match at the Davis cup. Bryans vs ferrero/???. Its way to fast and rediculous. I mean it takes a lot of skills to volley back and forth like that but its so BORING. I guess its fine once in a while but to see a whole tournament like that would suck. They dont have any spectacular rallies like Roddick, Hewitt, Federer, or Safin can produce playing singles which is why i love watching singles so much.

    I guess its just boring... :neutral:
     
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  6. Max G.

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    I find it the other way around - nowhere in singles are you going to see the amazing reflexes it takes to play doubles. Singles can't compare, unless you have someone like Dent or Mirnyi netrushing all the time.
     
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    I think doubles probably does well on the tennis channel. However on channels such as espn which rely heavily on name recognition and star power, it's not as common. The only time you'll see doubles on espn is if martina is playing.
     
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    I second that...
     
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  9. Kaptain Karl

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    I agree with the consensus. If the top ATP and WTA players entered the Doubles, we'd see more.

    Kinda odd.... Most US tennis players (leagues, etc.) are Doubles -- yet we watch Singles.

    - KK
     
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    Now, that would be an interesting match - but I wonder how they should pair up to create the most interesting match

    Federer & Safin vs Agassi & Roddick - F&S wins, not doubts.
    Federer & Agassi vs Safin & Roddick - S&R ?
    Federer & Roddick vs Safin & Agassi - F&R ?

    Hmm. I get the feeling that Agassi perhaps should be replaced with
    someone else to create better matched teams (I have a feeling that
    Agassi is a much better singles player than a doubles one). Perhaps
    he should be replaced by Pim-Pim? Two ace/serve machines and two
    finess-all-round players...
     
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  11. AndrewD

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    And for those who enjoy watching women's tennis the benefit is that the top players do play a lot more doubles than the men. At the Aus Open Davenport was runner-up in the singles and doubles, Molik was a semi-finalist in singles and won the doubles. Williams plays, Hingis used to play etc and quite a number of them also play in the mixed. Of the top recent players its only Graf and Seles who I cant recall playing a lot of doubles and, even then, they still did play some (think Seles might have won a major in doubles or been a runner-up). The guys just dont to any great extent and that probably influences the networks.

    Actually Id say that when you're at a major like the US or Aus Opens one of the most enjoyable things is to watch the doubles matches up close. It's okay on tv but I dont think it translates quite as well. You end up missing a lot of the angles and speed of the players that you get in person.
     
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  12. rhubarb

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    Both of these pairs have in fact played doubles together. The Americans played at Queen's last year. They won a match, I think. Anybody see it?

    Federer and Safin were more successful, winning a title in Gstaad together a few years ago.

    It would certainly bring more interest to doubles if top players played more. Playing up to 10 matches a week would be pretty exhausting though, so I'm not surprised they don't go for it very often.
     
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  13. Kaptain Karl

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    Mac used to play with Peter Fleming (pretty much who we would term a "doubles specialist") and IIR, they won a title ... or maybe even two.

    Mac believed the doubles helped his singles, because of all the net play and angles. (And now that I think of it, he was a pretty decent singles player too....)

    - KK
     
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    I wished they showed more doubles matches as well. I coach high school boys tennis and the other day I'm asking my players "what happens in pro doubles matches, where do the guys stand after the first 2-3 hits?" None of these guys seem to know that it's 4 guys at the net, going toe to toe. They did know about poaching and other things but they think it's about 1 up, 1 back (at all times) to protect against the lob. Yes, more doubles on TV would help teach people at all levels.
     
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    Yeah watching pro doubles guys practice and play a practice set from like 5 feet away shows the reflexes are truly amazing. The doubles guys are the 2nd class citizens of the tour. If a singles guy qualifies for a tourney (through qualies or by rank) he gets 7 days of hotel (sat-fri, obviously longer if he's in the semi's) but when the dubs guys lose they are tossed, as early as monday. Being kind of a fraternity, another dubs team will 'double up' with the losing team so they have a place to stay.
    And yes I would like to see more dubs on tv. Like if you have a blowout final, instead of showing and old match they should show the dubs final.
     
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  16. Balboa

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    Doubles should be shown more because I think it has more "action" than singles and I agree with the posts on more top singles players also playing doubles. Out of the popular players, the players who come to the net and are more all-around would have success in doubles. When Hewitt played doubles with Rafter in Davis Cup, they had success as I recall. Hewitt is one of many players such as Federer, Safin, Coria, Moya, Henman out of the top ten have good volleying skills, of course some better than others. Top ten players like Agassi and Roddick will not have success in playing doubles. Roddick and Agassi even played doubles last year at Queen's Club and I think they lost in the first round. I am not completely sure with Johansson and Nalbandian's volleying skills as I do not watch their matches much.
     
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  17. nkhera1

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    i wish they would start showing some more singles first
     
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  18. VamosRafa

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    I think if we can get more coverage at all, it would be great. But I agree that more singles would be the priority. As there are so many interesting singles matches we don't get to see in the USA because of the tendency to emphasize matches featuring American players.

    Doubles is fun to watch, especially live at tournaments. I agree. But given that it's become such a specialized part of an event, where singles players only dabble in it, there isn't the "name recognition" that TV broadcasters want (a few exceptions, of course -- including the Bryans, Todd Woodbridge).

    Last week, TTC aired a portion of Buenos Aires. They showed one singles quarterfinal, the two semis and the final. The quarterfinal, one of the semis and the final featured Gaudio, the French Open champion.

    If the doubles final was aired, it would have been: Cermak/Friedl vs. Acasuso/Prieto 62 75.

    I can't fault TTC for showing what they did, given their limited coverage. I would have preferred to see all 4 quarterfinals, and perhaps some earlier singles action, of course.

    And then if there was room, perhaps some doubles.

    But until they start broadcasting a lot more hours from these events, I don't see doubles in the cards.
     
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  19. splink779

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    I think at the end of every year they should have a doubles exhibition mini-tournament involving only the top 8 players, randomly paired. 2 rounds. While this would probably never work out, I can still dream cant I? That would get a ton of ratings.
     
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  20. Dopke

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    Bryan brothers, I have seen them on TV for some of the Grand slam finals for doubles.
     
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