"Why I play 10 ft behind the baseline - I'm a big Guga fan", by Andy Roodick.

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  1. Mr Topspin

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    Sorry folks i couldn't resist after watching some old tennis matches from the very reliable and proffesional Tennis Nexus! Plug!! Keep up the good work.

    I was watching some old Kuerten matches and noticed that he used to stand 10 ft behind the base line. Whilst he was playing Sampras and Agassi in the TMC in Lisbon the commentators were suggesting that he defied conventional wisdom but still beat both players back to back being so far back.

    It's amusing that that style worked for Kuerten who was able to totally outplay Agassi in the final in 2000 and outplay AA being so far back. Today we tend to agree that being so far back is detrimental to Roddick's game and is the reason why so many players are controlling the rally when they play him. However, it seemed to work for kuerten and enabled him to put a lot of returns back into play and most surprisingly he was able to dictate the tempo of the majority of base line rally's against one of the strongest baseliners of our time, Andre Agassi. Furthermore he was able to beat Sampras and break his serve despite Pete's attempt's to serve out wide and volley on every point.

    Therefore, perhaps there is hope for Roddick as he adopts the same principle and although it may not be working for him now it may lead to long term success when he develops his skills further.
     
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  2. Babblelot

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    Two things not evident in Roddick's game.
     
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  3. Noelle

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    Andy is NOT a good returner or defensive player; being 10 feet behind the baseline often results in him losing the point.
     
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  4. SteveI

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    Hi,

    Andy plays "Brain-dead" tennis.. and his coach is clueless. He needs to bring Brad back but his oversized ego will never allow that.. so he is going to lose ground each year until he makes a move to play smarter tennis.

    Steve
     
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  5. Noelle

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    Actually I think Brad won't allow it either, nor will ESPN (you guys are stuck with his commentating for the next few years); "that ship has sailed," says Jon Wertheim.

    I do agree with you about the smarter tennis part, though.
     
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  6. SteveI

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    Hi,

    Ok.. any good coach that is a not an Andy "Yes Man" as his current coach is. I love to see Brad in the booth at ESPN.. great stuff.

    Steve
     
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  7. bc-05

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    good coach for him would b todd woodbridge.. talkin about smartness
     
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  8. vllockhart

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    Andy's game is nowhere near as complete as Guga's is. Andy doesn't have the variety of shots. I do like that Andy is starting to utilize the slice backhand more, but he has a long way to go.
     
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  9. Marius_Hancu

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    Just to make things clear, if there was a need for it :)-)): ARod isn't moving the way Guga was.

    Guga was the man on springs, ever on his toes, bouncing from one position to another, not running.
     
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  10. The tennis guy

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    What's record of Kuerten vs Agassi, Kuerten vs Sampras? Success in one match doesn't mean continued success.
     
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    2002 Los Angeles, Hard, Q
    CA, U.S.A. Hard Q Agassi 6 7 6 3 4 6

    2001 Los Angeles, Hard, S
    CA, U.S.A. Hard S Agassi 7 6 3 6 3 6

    2000 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, F
    Lisbon, Portugal Hard F Kuerten 6 4 6 4 6 4

    2000 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, RR
    Lisbon, Portugal Hard RR Agassi 6 4 4 6 3 6

    2000 Miami, Hard, S
    FL, U.S.A. Hard S Kuerten 6 1 6 4

    1999 Singles Championship, Hard, RR
    Germany Hard RR Agassi 4 6 5 7

    1999 Cincinnati, Hard, Q
    OH, U.S.A. Hard Q Agassi 2 6 6 7

    1999 Wimbledon, Grass, Q
    England Grass Q Agassi 3 6 4 6 4 6

    1998 San Jose, Hard, R16
    CA, U.S.A. Hard R16 Agassi 3 6 1 6

    1997 Cincinnati, Hard, R64
    OH, U.S.A. Hard R64 Kuerten 6 3 6 1

    1997 Memphis, Hard, R32
    TN, U.S.A. Hard R32 Kuerten 6 2 6 4

    1-2
    2000 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, S
    Lisbon, Portugal Hard S Kuerten 6 7 6 3 6 4

    2000 Miami, Hard, F
    FL, U.S.A. Hard F Sampras 1 6 7 6 6 7 6 7

    1999 Singles Championship, Hard, RR
    Germany Hard RR Sampras 2 6 3 6
     
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  12. jgunnink

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    I love Guga, but as he only ever won the French, you would probably have to view this strategy as working best on clay.
     
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  13. byealmeens

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    I'm no fan of this strategy by any means, but when you consider the fact that a well-known clay-courter - Conchita Martinez - beat the queen of grass - Martina Navratilova - at Wimbledon standing back that far, there must be something to it. I remember watching that final and could not believe how often Martinez could hit good backhand returns off of Martina's lefty slice out wide - not to mention the fact that Martina was serving-and-volleying on almost every serve. Crazy. Seems if you're athletic enough, you can get away with it....
     
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  14. legolas

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    yeah
     
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  15. GrandSlam Legend

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    andy roddick needs to hit flat if he stands 10 feet behind the baseline... too much topspin
     
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  16. What? Roddick was asking about me?
    ;)

    I think maybe Guga's height and wingspan helped him hit returns out wide from far back. Andy's lunging two-hander swat just isn't cutting it.

    How about a pic of our dearly missed monkey boy?

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